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Google's Eric Schmidt dismissed Microsoft's Bing as nothing special, saying Microsoft released a similar product "about once a year".  (Source: Soydemac)
Google's outspoken CEO had lots to say on the search engine and more

Google CEO Eric Schmidt is no stranger to making the headlines.  From veiled threats to the newspaper industry to his ongoing fight with the U.S. government over his relationship with Apple, Mr. Schmidt has made himself a frequent subject of the news.  Now he's gone on the record again, in an interview with Fox Business Network and has said some interesting things.

Mr. Schmidt led off the interview by dismissing competitor Microsoft's new entry into the search market, Bing.  He comments, "It's not the first entry for Microsoft. They do this about once a year.  I don't think Bing's arrival has changed what we're doing. We are about search, we're about making things enormously successful, by virtue of innovation."

He continues, "Google is about getting all the information and organizing it. Yahoo has a different strategy. We think ultimately Bing will evolve to a different strategy as well."

While Mr. Schmidt is not nervous about Bing, some members of Google appear to be.  Google Chief Financial Officer Patrick Pachette promised to conduct "a review tomorrow on it with the executive committee."  Last week one major web research firm, StatCounter declared that Bing had passed Yahoo in traffic.  Other research firms contradicted this report, stating that Yahoo was doing approximately three times the amount of traffic as Bing, still.   Nonetheless, Bing has grabbed the public eye.

On the topic of the other major player in the market, Yahoo, Schmidt states, "As you know we got within an hour of doing a very deep partnership with Yahoo, but we were unable to do it because of the government and their concerns over various parts of the deal."

He also hints at a greater Android and Google application push into the smart phone sphere, stating, "This is the year of mobile phones. What we like is every one of these has a powerful browser and everyone is used to search."

While Mr. Schmidt may have been a bit critical of Microsoft's Bing, he did take a more positive tone about another Microsoft product -- the email client, Outlook.  Google recently created a plugin that allows Outlook to use Google Apps and Gmail as a backend, rather than Microsoft Exchange product.  Mr. Schmidt comments, "I grew up with Outlook as well, which is why we're doing these things. It's very important to bridge the new kind of customer, the young customer, with the existing customer that has grown up with the Microsoft infrastructure."



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How many?
By FaceMaster on 6/10/2009 6:47:24 PM , Rating: 1
How many articles about Bing can Daily Tech write about? Sure, it's something new, but I don't care what so and so thinks about it, or that some people are too stupid to realise that safe search is there to prevent porn. I'm having a bing overload here...




RE: How many?
By Morphine06 on 6/10/2009 7:23:15 PM , Rating: 2
So, if Bing came in a box you're saying there'd be a dailytech article on its box art?


RE: How many?
By icanhascpu on 6/10/2009 8:17:06 PM , Rating: 3
And i'd get rated down for asking why boxart is news. xD


RE: How many?
By imaheadcase on 6/10/2009 10:27:19 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
How many articles about Bing can Daily Tech write about?


Didn't you hear, apparently AT likes fads now than actual articles. Its been more like Appletech lately..

They have a orgy over the lame iphone as of late.


RE: How many?
By FaceMaster on 6/10/2009 11:32:00 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Its been more like Appletech lately..


Antiappletech. I don't mind it, but it does get tiring, much like these sort of articles. It becomes as monotonous as the arguments between religions. Nothing gets achieved, nobody wants to back down and everybody believes that what they believe in is God and it's some how worth 'donating' money to the cause. Much like Apple products, really. Oh no, you've got me started now.


RE: How many?
By swampjelly on 6/11/2009 9:54:03 AM , Rating: 2
I think an article detailing Google's response to Bing is newsworthy.

Stop fishing.


RE: How many?
By Mitch101 on 6/11/2009 10:30:08 AM , Rating: 3
I like it too and if you look into the history of companies that made bold claims like this toward Microsoft products then you know this is also the kiss of death.

Ballmer will be thanking Schmidt with this comment. Nothing drives developers to new levels like having your work called junk by your competitor. Especially one with a lot of money to throw at the problem.


Bing
By eddieroolz on 6/10/2009 9:23:19 PM , Rating: 3
I use it, I switched over from Google. Never liked Google really.

Good refreshing alternative for me, at least.

Now let the mod down begin!




RE: Bing
By matt0401 on 6/11/2009 2:31:39 AM , Rating: 2
I find it impressive. The only reason I don't switch from Google is familiarity. Call me old fashioned, but I've been a Google fan since I was 13 (mind you that's only 6 years ago) and it will be hard to draw me away. Back then Google really was king of the search industry. They were the only ones with image search AFAIK.


RE: Bing
By callmeroy on 6/11/2009 8:45:31 AM , Rating: 2
Same reason for me although I'm almost old enough to be the previous posters father...(I remember pre-graphics/fancy formatting days of the Internet -- yes just a wonderful world of .....text)...I use google because of habit still but I'm randomly switching to bing to test out results -- to be honest bing has produced more accurate searches.

It just the habit that has to die now.


RE: Bing
By Donkeyshins on 6/11/2009 12:57:06 PM , Rating: 2
I am old enough to be that poster's father (how the hell did that happen?) and I remember embracing our Lynx overloards in 1993. That was fun while it lasted for about 6 months...heh.


Well - Bing has already rubbed off
By nofumble62 on 6/11/2009 12:35:11 AM , Rating: 2
BING has nice screen but the problem is I use Chrome. On the Chrome address bar, I just type my search subject directly without open the Bing search engine. So why I need to go to Bing then type my search subject.

I don't even remember the last time I used Bing. Must be at least a week.




By Mitch101 on 6/11/2009 10:52:48 AM , Rating: 3
Well then hopefully we can get a Bing bar to fix your Chrome problems. ;)


By mixpix on 6/14/2009 12:35:13 AM , Rating: 2
Well then you'll be happy to know that Google Chrome has the ability to CHOOSE the search provider you want use when you type something into the address bar. lol

Go to Options and click the Manage button in the default search section. Bing is available (at least in the latest beta version)


Bing mobile
By segerstein on 6/11/2009 10:58:25 AM , Rating: 3
Bing mobile looks absolutely awful on my Nokia N95 8GB!

m.bing.com

There's no news, image search...

I'm staying with Google.




Google Is Boring
By TomZ on 6/11/2009 12:47:02 PM , Rating: 3
I've used google for so many years that it's become kind of boring. I'll start using Bing because at least it is something different. Frankly, all the major search engines can do a decent job of finding particular web content, and the choice of one over the other is pretty arbitrary.




Is that the correct link?
By amanojaku on 6/10/2009 6:28:12 PM , Rating: 2
When I click on it I get to this article: "Neste biodiesel passes Mercedes truck test"

The following one works for me.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10261061-2.htm...




and I remember MS
By smackababy on 6/11/2009 9:16:36 AM , Rating: 2
dismissing Andriod and Chrome with their marketshare numbers...

Other than that, I like bing and I use it.




Schmidt is scared of Bing
By iFX on 6/11/09, Rating: 0
RE: Schmidt is scared of Bing
By iFX on 6/20/2009 2:46:32 PM , Rating: 2
Rated down by the Google sheep.


Outlook should be free
By quiksilvr on 6/10/09, Rating: -1
RE: Outlook should be free
By dr4gon on 6/10/2009 6:54:41 PM , Rating: 2
Well outlook is (was) good when internet access wasn't as widely available. I think it's diminished in popularity since then with the dawn of "Web 2.0." It's still handy at integrating with multiple platforms (blackberry) and managing corporate exchange email.


RE: Outlook should be free
By s12033722 on 6/10/2009 7:10:30 PM , Rating: 2
Really? GMail will let you control all your company's confidential email traffic and keep it off the internet?


RE: Outlook should be free
By cochy on 6/11/2009 9:58:56 AM , Rating: 2
Outlook won't either. Maybe you're thinking of Exchange?


RE: Outlook should be free
By iFX on 6/11/2009 10:11:07 AM , Rating: 2
Split hairs much?

Gmail has a front end application (the web page) which displays data from its back end email system.

Outlook is a front end application which displays data from a backend (Exchange) email system as well. There is even a web based from end called OWA so you don't need the hard client.


RE: Outlook should be free
By cochy on 6/11/2009 10:52:57 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not splitting hairs. The OP is about making Outlook a free application. Maybe like Thunderbird? Outlook Express is free but how good is it? Outlook can be a front end to most any email system not only Exchange.

Exchange can't be free, and Gmail is not free either for corporate use.


RE: Outlook should be free
By iFX on 6/11/2009 11:14:08 AM , Rating: 2
Outlook is predominantly used with Exchange. Microsoft engineered the two to be a single solution. You knew that though.

Also, you're correct that the Outlook front end can be used with other back end email system - Gmail can't be separated though. :) Another point for Outlook.


RE: Outlook should be free
By Penti on 6/14/2009 10:48:18 PM , Rating: 2
Just use Outlook for Google apps if you do not wish to run your own MAPI compatible mail server - http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/outloo...

Alternatively just use IMAPI clients like Thunderbird or Apples Mail, and Mozilla Sunbird or iCal for calendar. No need to just use the web-interface.


RE: Outlook should be free
By 4wardtristan on 6/10/2009 7:32:53 PM , Rating: 2
again, its the same 2-sided debate we have seen over the last few articles.

your point may be true for home users, what about enterprise environments? small business environments?

how well does gmail integrate with group policy when compared to exchange/outlook?

its amazing that people are comparing gmail to exchange.

(not saying you are, but just what people have said recently on DT)


RE: Outlook should be free
By sprockkets on 6/11/2009 12:34:59 AM , Rating: 2
Some companies or a university found it cheaper to have Google/Gmail do all of their email accounts instead of doing it themselves.


RE: Outlook should be free
By iFX on 6/11/2009 10:00:11 AM , Rating: 2
Which one's specifically? I want to know what stupid company would turn over all their confidential email data to Google. You do understand that all email you send via Gmail becomes property of Google, don't you? No smart company would risk this.


RE: Outlook should be free
By erple2 on 6/14/2009 10:14:07 AM , Rating: 2
Is that also true of the Enterprise Gmail system too? I'm not so sure that's the case. When you pay for gmail, you get different services...


RE: Outlook should be free
By Penti on 6/14/2009 10:33:26 PM , Rating: 2
About or at least 100 000 students in Sweden are on Google Apps. We also have one of the largest exchange installations here in a university.

You can use outlook for google apps - http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/outloo...

As well as other offline clients. You own your data.


RE: Outlook should be free
By Sazar on 6/10/2009 7:37:29 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
by quiksilvr on June 10, 2009 at 6:40 PM Gmail has all of the capabilities that program can do and has left little reason to pay for Outlook IMO.


Actually no, it doesn't.

Outlook is far more powerful, integrates seamlessly with all my other Microsoft based applications and is VERY powerful when used correctly.

If you are looking for a basic email tool, gmail has enough to suffice, which is why I have an account. But even my gmail account, other than the version I access on my iPhone, is accessed through Outlook because it makes it easier for me to organize.


RE: Outlook should be free
By frobizzle on 6/11/09, Rating: -1
RE: Outlook should be free
By pequin06 on 6/11/2009 9:11:49 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Outlook is a festering, puddle of crap that tries to be the everything application and in reality, fails miserably.


You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.


RE: Outlook should be free
By callmeroy on 6/11/2009 9:53:15 AM , Rating: 2
You are confusing your tools i think.....Windows comes with a generic email reader its called Outlook Express -- that is in comparison with wanting an email client to (surprisingly) read and write email. So what's your beef, the client you want is provided at no additional cost to you when you install windows.

Outlook on the other hand works extremely well and is indeed a very useful business tool. It's optimum use is dependent on a proper configuration of Microsoft Exchange of course. Contrary to your misguided opportunity to take a pot shot at the evil MSFT corporation (really will folks ever tire of that?), a great deal of business users will disagree with you --- yes we DO want all the features that outlook has in it...thank you very much.

Next time try not to compare apples to oranges...


RE: Outlook should be free
By djc208 on 6/11/2009 10:28:02 AM , Rating: 2
I switched back from Thunderbird at home because I missed the extra features of Outlook, primarily calender integration, Mozilla really doesn't have anything comparable.

My biggest complaint about Outlook is that few people know how to use it correctly in a business environment. Don't send me an e-mail about a meeting, send me a meeting request.


RE: Outlook should be free
By iFX on 6/11/2009 10:02:26 AM , Rating: 3
That's fine if you work at Burger King. Corporate America disagrees with you and they want a fully functional communications and scheduling client that does more than display email.


RE: Outlook should be free
By quiksilvr on 6/11/2009 10:18:13 PM , Rating: 2
One could argue that with Google. It integrates seamlessly with Google Docs, Google Chat, Google Calendar, Google Documents, etc. There's offline storage, a translator tool, an UNDO button, mouse gestures, multiple inboxes, the works.

Had this been two years ago, I would agree and say that though Gmail is handy, it doesn't have all the features Outlook does. But really, there are fewer and fewer features on Outlook that don't appear on Gmail.


RE: Outlook should be free
By iFX on 6/11/2009 9:58:06 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Gmail has all of the capabilities that program can do and has left little reason to pay for Outlook IMO.


Gmail is not Outlook's counterpart in the Google world - not by a long shot. The fact that you would even say this means you haven't used Outlook in a large environment.


RE: Outlook should be free
By mixpix on 6/14/2009 12:45:52 AM , Rating: 2
Or even at home. haha


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