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  (Source: businessinsider.com)
iOS 6 users can finally have a maps app that works

For the iOS 6 users that hate Apple's new home-grown mapping feature, don't fret -- Google is on the way with a Google Maps iPhone/iPad app. However, we won't see it for a couple of months.
 
It has been confirmed by anonymous sources close to Google that the tech giant is working on iPhone/iPad Google Maps apps. This is likely a relief for many iOS users, who are anything but fond of Apple's latest maps app. 
 
Last week, Apple released its latest mobile operating system iOS 6 days ahead of its iPhone 5 launch. Since iOS 6's release, a chief complaint has been that the maps app is completely off as far as geography and navigation
 
Prior to iOS 6, Google Maps was the main maps apps on iPhones and iPads since the beginning of their respective times. But earlier this year, Apple announced that it was going to make its own maps app for iOS devices and pushed Google out of the loop. One main reason for this is because Google's Android operating system has been fiercely competing with iOS, and in the realm of smartphones, Google is winning.
 
But Google never saw this coming. In fact, it found out about Apple's plans to make its own maps service the same time Apple announced it to the rest of the world. But Google stepped back, and the company's executive chairman Eric Schmidt even said that Google wasn't begging for Apple's business (although it was open to any new opportunities). 
 
But now, it looks like Google will make Maps apps for the iPhone/iPad afterall. However, the only downfall is that it'll take a couple of months to do so. Why? For two reasons: the now-complicated relationship with Apple, and Google just needs time to build the app.
 
When Apple decided to ditch Google for its own maps app, it broke the contract the two had early (one year early according to The Verge). So now, Google and Apple must figure out how Google Maps is going to weave its way into the whole situation. 
 
As far as building the app goes, Google wants to make sure Google Maps is comparable to Apple's maps (which shouldn't be hard in terms of accuracy). For instance, Apple's maps has a 3D feature, and Google wants to have the same for Google Maps. 

Sources: The New York Times, The Verge



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Missed point
By Ammohunt on 9/26/2012 3:51:18 PM , Rating: 3
What amazes me is that this crapware even hit the market! this software would have never seen the light of day if jobs was still around. Which makes for sad commentary on the current Apple corporation; that being its glaringly obvious that Apple seems to consist of a bunch of incompetent boobs that are completely lost without their captain and that the current CEO is a major doofus. My advice sell your stock now while it still has value.




RE: Missed point
By tayb on 9/26/2012 4:30:06 PM , Rating: 1
Apple began acquiring mapping technologies in 2009 when they were fighting with Google over access to turn by turn navigation and advanced route guidance APIs. I have no idea when Apple actually started development but they were at the very least trying to get leverage over Google way back in 2009. Steve Jobs died fall of last year so he was very much involved with planning this.

The story about how Google was "shocked" is nonsense. It was no secret that Apple was buying up mapping companies and no secret that iOS lacked turn by turn navigation while Android did not despite using a mapping application from the same company.


RE: Missed point
By Reclaimer77 on 9/26/12, Rating: 0
RE: Missed point
By TakinYourPoints on 9/26/2012 8:35:26 PM , Rating: 2
tayb is one of the most balanced posters here. Obviously he doesn't go with the hivemind all the way so he's Swash 2.0. Its just like anyone remotely moderate on a conservative blog is a commie pinko, hilarious.


RE: Missed point
By Reclaimer77 on 9/27/2012 11:20:48 AM , Rating: 2
Tayb is one of the most idiotic posters here. And you attempting to weight in on "balance" is the joke of the day.


RE: Missed point
By tayb on 9/27/2012 2:41:49 PM , Rating: 2
Don't bother with reclaimer, he's just here to troll.


RE: Missed point
By TakinYourPoints on 9/27/2012 6:00:49 PM , Rating: 2
Trolls are there mainly to provoke. Reclaimer actually believes the stupid things he says


RE: Missed point
By Solandri on 9/27/2012 6:55:21 PM , Rating: 2
I'd agree Google is the one doing the doublespeak here. Obviously they already have a nearly fully-function version of Google Maps for the iPhone - it was preinstalled right up until iOS 6. Apple just elected to remove it from iOS 6.

So I don't buy the claim that it'll take months to develop. It already exists, and is already nearly fully functional. From what I understand, the only major feature which is missing is turn by turn navigation (supposedly Apple didn't want to pay for it in the contract they negotiated with Google for the app). And most of the grunt work of coding that has already been done for their Android version. All they need to do is port it to iOS.

It sounds to me more like Google wants iOS users to stew in all the problems plaguing Apple's map app for a while. Then they can swoop in with their revamped iOS version of Google Maps like the proverbial knight in shining armor.

That might be the best thing to do from a PR standpoint, but I disagree with it since it puts marketing ahead of customer convenience. It's the sort of thing Apple does. I would've hoped Google was above that and would just concentrate on giving customers the best product they can provide as soon as possible.


RE: Missed point
By theapparition on 9/27/2012 10:07:08 AM , Rating: 4
Your correct on many points, but completely off on the lack of turn-by-turn.

quote:
It was no secret that Apple was buying up mapping companies and no secret that iOS lacked turn by turn navigation while Android did not despite using a mapping application from the same company.


Yes, both were Google Maps, but Apple refused to allow the program to access their API, hence blocking that feature. This was not Google's choice to disallow that feature, but Apple's refusal to allow them to.

Time will tell whether it was a smart move on Apple's part. But they'll never have the investment that Google has made into maps, like Streetview. At this point, their best bet would be to shed some of that cash and buy TomTom (Although in my opinion the worst of the big 3 GPS companies).


RE: Missed point
By tayb on 9/27/2012 11:40:21 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Yes, both were Google Maps, but Apple refused to allow the program to access their API, hence blocking that feature. This was not Google's choice to disallow that feature, but Apple's refusal to allow them to.


My understanding of the scenario is different. The Google API Terms of Use also expressly forbids turn by turn or advanced routing. Do you have any information to back up your claim? I'm not saying it's wrong, just curious.


RE: Missed point
By Tony Swash on 9/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: Missed point
By nocturne_81 on 9/26/2012 8:06:44 PM , Rating: 2
Sad... but exactly right.


RE: Missed point
By Lord 666 on 9/26/2012 10:26:05 PM , Rating: 2
Without Jobs, their succession plan will only last for so long.

Of course you don't believe me, but look at the last four product releases; iPhone 5, iOS 6, ML, and the new iPad. Which one of them was innovative in a way the Nano, SL, iPad, or even iPhone 4 was? The only glimmer of hope is services and settings being shared cross platforms old and new.

Yes, there is a difference In the product being released by APPL pre and post Jobs.


RE: Missed point
By Ammohunt on 9/26/2012 11:19:33 PM , Rating: 2
That is my point exactly! The idea that a company like apple can't fall from power is a belief held by the naïve and former executives at RIM. Remember jobs single handedly resurrected the company from the beige mac years of mismanagement. The legacy of jobs will only last so long before they will need to pull an original rabbit from their hat; ask yourself who is the new Apple visionary?


RE: Missed point
By Lord 666 on 9/27/2012 5:49:49 AM , Rating: 2
And Microsoft. Only pure arrogance would bet the farm on the steaming heap known as Windows 8.


Integration??
By othercents on 9/26/2012 2:21:37 PM , Rating: 2
I don't remember if Apple had opened the integration for other map programs, so by default the map program that launches when you have an address will be the Apple one. Hopefully you will be able to ditch the other one and only have one installed that you like.




RE: Integration??
By ctodd on 9/26/2012 2:38:56 PM , Rating: 3
Agreed. I think there should be a way to set your default map just like you can pick your default search engine. I'm always amazed when Apple can get away with the exact same stuff MS got in trouble for 10+ years ago.


RE: Integration??
By Reclaimer77 on 9/26/2012 2:43:10 PM , Rating: 3
And that's a perfect example of why I don't buy into Apple's bullshit ecosystem. You have to do everything they way THEY want you to. Not how you would prefer it. They make arbitrary decisions that no other company would, and get away with it.


RE: Integration??
By Samus on 9/26/2012 3:59:19 PM , Rating: 2
Apple has never been about choices so I doubt you'll be able to set Google Maps as the default handler.


RE: Integration??
By GotThumbs on 9/27/2012 9:01:21 AM , Rating: 4

This should be the last straw that breaks the camel’s back....for the DOJ to FINALLY step in and start addressing Apples closed/anti-competitive ecosystem.

MS got beaten down because of an integrated web-browser, but NEVER prevented anyone from installing and as the default browser.

Apple is clearly anti-competitive and needs to be called to the mat on it.

Personally, I'll NEVER own an Apple product, so it's not really an issue that immediately affects me.

Android allows freedom of choice for me, so that's my choice.


RE: Integration??
By Tony Swash on 9/26/12, Rating: 0
RE: Integration??
By xti on 9/26/2012 3:20:44 PM , Rating: 2
this reply should be at the bottom in tiny print.


RE: Integration??
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/26/2012 4:04:17 PM , Rating: 1
No, we got enough of his ridiculous bullshit already, plus, he isn't important enough to quote...

You might think he is, but in the real world, he isn't important.


RE: Integration??
By ritualm on 9/26/2012 3:22:26 PM , Rating: 3
You cannot set DEFAULT APPS on anything in iOS. Sure you can use Google Maps, but any app that uses the iOS Maps API can only use Apple Maps, and right now it's full of poop.

Monopoly, market share and every single last one of your bile-drenched drivel notwithstanding.


RE: Integration??
By Tony Swash on 9/26/12, Rating: 0
RE: Integration??
By themaster08 on 9/27/2012 2:15:57 AM , Rating: 1
And if someone really doesn't like what Microsoft does on it's Windows platform they can switch to another platform because Microsoft is not a monoploy.


RE: Integration??
By nocturne_81 on 9/26/2012 8:04:06 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Microsoft's Windows had a 90% share of the PC operating system market. . .Apple has a 17% share of the global smart phone market. . .One is a monopoly and one is not.


I find this remark severely amusing, as you often tout how profitable Apple is despite their meagre market share..

Either way, market share has little to do with anti-competetive anti-trust laws.. In the US it is hardly an issue, but the EU actually takes things a bit more seriously.


Better alternative
By RobFromColorado on 9/26/2012 2:37:48 PM , Rating: 2
Sure, you can wait for Google to build something in a few months, or you could just get Waze (www.waze.com) now.
Free, turn-by-turn that works and automatically routes around traffic, hazards, accidents and speed traps.

Seriously worth checking out -- I've been using it on my iPhone for more than two years, and it's fantastic for my daily commute.
(no, I don't generally get lost on my daily commute, but it reliably picks the best route for traffic and other hazards, re-routing on the fly as conditions change.)




RE: Better alternative
By Capt Caveman on 9/26/2012 3:36:15 PM , Rating: 2
I use MapQuest(free)and happy with it.


RE: Better alternative
By aharris02 on 9/26/2012 4:01:21 PM , Rating: 2
Great suggestion, but as a DailyTech commenter I unfortunately have to downvote you because you mentioned that you use an iPhone.


RE: Better alternative
By JackBurton on 9/26/2012 4:48:55 PM , Rating: 2
Excellent point. Rules are rules. With that said, I'll also have to downvote you since you said something positive about someone posting helpful advise on an iPhone. It's called, downvote by proxy. Sorry. Like I said, rules are rules.


RE: Better alternative
By MaulBall789 on 9/27/2012 2:34:53 PM , Rating: 2
Which means you both don't know the rules. When you comment on a post, your previous votes no longer count.


RE: Better alternative
By name99 on 9/26/2012 9:55:40 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly. Not to mention you can create a link to maps.google.com in Springboard and have it behave like Google Maps in the interim.

It's a bizarre fact that the very same people that are constantly going on about choice and how important it is in the Android world can't believe that there are alternative, good, mapping solutions on iOS (and have been for years), and insist that, Apple's is doomed because
(a) its maps are complete crap but
(b) its customers (you know, the ones that have downloaded a trillion apps from the app store) will never use an alternative.
It really is like Fox News --- listen to your own propaganda enough and you really do lose touch with reality.

As for "But Google never saw this coming. In fact, it found out about Apple's plans to make its own maps service the same time Apple announced it to the rest of the world."
If Google never saw this coming they are utter morons. They knew how the negotiations were going within Google; they knew Apple was buying mapping companies. And yet they never out two and two together?


It won't reach feature parity with Android maps
By tayb on 9/26/2012 4:20:18 PM , Rating: 2
Whatever application Google builds won't reach feature parity with the Android version. This whole thing began because Google was refusing API access to advanced routing and turn by turn directions to third parties such as Apple. The article indicates that Apple randomly decided to dump Google maps and that really isn't the case. Google was withholding API access to give Android a competitive advantage and their new app will likely do the exact same thing.




By lightfoot on 9/26/2012 5:54:44 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Google was withholding API access to give Android a competitive advantage.

You mean like how Apple uses iTunes to give iOS devices a competitive advantage over EVERYTHING else? Say it isn't so! How very unfair.

If Apple allowed Google to release a navigation app, I'm sure that Google would do so. The problem is that Apple wants to use Google's API, strip out all their revenue sources (like advertising) and then take credit for the end result (like they do with Siri.)

Apple did this to their own customers by being a royal jackass to everyone involved. Apple did this. Not Google.

Google is in no way obligated to play nice with Apple, just as Apple has made it clear that they have no intention of playing nice with others.


RE: It won't reach feature parity with Android maps
By tayb on 9/26/2012 7:55:15 PM , Rating: 2
I never mentioned anything about fair or unfair... you brought that up. I'll play along anyway.

quote:
You mean like how Apple uses iTunes to give iOS devices a competitive advantage over EVERYTHING else? Say it isn't so! How very unfair.


iTunes is a music store. The music is DRM free. Android doesn't need a "sync"... you have direct access to the folder structure. How is that an advantage for Apple, much less an unfair one?

quote:
If Apple allowed Google to release a navigation app, I'm sure that Google would do so.


Google didn't build the iOS maps application, Apple did. They used the maps API and they built an app with collaboration from Google.

quote:
The problem is that Apple wants to use Google's API, strip out all their revenue sources (like advertising) and then take credit for the end result (like they do with Siri.)


That's a pretty ridiculous statement considering Google hasn't begun truly monetizing mobile maps, Apple has been customizing the maps app for 5 years, and turn by turn navigation has almost no advertising or searching.

quote:
Apple did this to their own customers by being a royal jackass to everyone involved. Apple did this. Not Google.


Google restricts the API access, not Apple. Apple can't restrict API access to APIs it doesn't own... This is not an argument, it's fact. You can suppose other things about Apple wanting special deals from Google all you like but they aren't ground in fact. The far more likely and widely accepted scenario is that Google purposefully restricted access to these features to give Android a competitive advantage. I'm not blaming Google or saying that this is/was unfair just a simple statement of fact.

quote:
Google is in no way obligated to play nice with Apple, just as Apple has made it clear that they have no intention of playing nice with others.


Of course they aren't obligated to... but Google has a lot more to lose here than Apple does. The crappy maps application hasn't stopped people from buying the iPhone and it likely won't. Meanwhile Google will start missing out returning location based search results and gathering traffic and driving statistics from a huge number of people. The lost revenue from the results could easily be in the hundreds of millions range over a 3-5 year period. Also, statistics show iOS users use the maps application about 20% more often than Android users do.


By Cheesew1z69 on 9/26/2012 8:04:32 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I'm not blaming Google or saying that this is/was unfair just a simple statement of fact.
It's not fact, you have ZERO idea what happened. That's the fact.


By ritualm on 9/27/2012 12:54:08 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
iTunes is a music store. The music is DRM free.

You, sir, are completely wrong on this point. The DRM still exists.
quote:
Google didn't build the iOS maps application, Apple did. They used the maps API and they built an app with collaboration from Google.

More like taking credit for whatever Google does on the maps front. I may not necessarily trust Google to do no evil, but I don't have any trust in Apple doing things in the best interests of its user base ever.
quote:
That's a pretty ridiculous statement considering Google hasn't begun truly monetizing mobile maps, Apple has been customizing the maps app for 5 years, and turn by turn navigation has almost no advertising or searching.

Your rebuttal is more ridiculous than what was posted. Apple wants to use Google Maps without paying for it or giving proper credit where it truly belongs.
quote:
Google restricts the API access, not Apple. Apple can't restrict API access to APIs it doesn't own... This is not an argument, it's fact. You can suppose other things about Apple wanting special deals from Google all you like but they aren't ground in fact. The far more likely and widely accepted scenario is that Google purposefully restricted access to these features to give Android a competitive advantage. I'm not blaming Google or saying that this is/was unfair just a simple statement of fact.

Apple has restricted API access only to the ones iOS uses. Developers are not allowed to build and use their own APIs, they must use Apple's. There are many add-on apps that have to use the Maps API. Pre-6 they depended on Google's. Apple changed that without warning in 6 and the developers of those apps are scrambling for workarounds.

Why wouldn't Google restrict Apple access to its own APIs if Cupertino does the same thing to Mountain View? Apple has already shown it's willing to play extremely dirty to get what it wants.
quote:
Of course they aren't obligated to... but Google has a lot more to lose here than Apple does. The crappy maps application hasn't stopped people from buying the iPhone and it likely won't. Meanwhile Google will start missing out returning location based search results and gathering traffic and driving statistics from a huge number of people. The lost revenue from the results could easily be in the hundreds of millions range over a 3-5 year period. Also, statistics show iOS users use the maps application about 20% more often than Android users do.

Really funny.

People keep buying iPhones because they are already locked into Apple's iTunes ecosystem, they don't have a choice unless they're willing to shed thousands of dollars worth of purchases overnight. Not because the Maps app was full of crap. Google stands to lose? ROFL, those users will go back to Google because its web-based Maps app remains far superior than Apple's native app.

You're a blithering fool with less intelligence than a cocaine-poisoned lab rat.


Strategy
By nafhan on 9/26/2012 2:35:08 PM , Rating: 3
So, another possible explanation for "a couple of months":
That might be faster than Google expects Apple to get their maps app fixed. Basically, the optimal amount of time to let Apple users get as annoyed as possible while still beating Apple to the punch with a good maps application.




RE: Strategy
By xti on 9/26/2012 3:22:17 PM , Rating: 1
if true, that means google cares less about the general user just like everyone says apple does.

fancy that.


RE: Strategy
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/26/2012 4:07:11 PM , Rating: 1
Or, they give 2 shits about Apple...


RE: Strategy
By xti on 9/26/2012 4:57:33 PM , Rating: 1
still screwing the people, given how holier than thou people make them out to be, regardless of stance on apple.


RE: Strategy
By nafhan on 9/27/2012 12:01:21 PM , Rating: 2
So your point is that businesses should run on "caring"? Good luck with that...

Anyway, let's go with your anthropomorphizing for a moment: you mention that "google cares less", but who do they care less than? In context, it would seem that you are talking about Apple, the company that went with a substandard mapping product in the first place, but that doesn't really make sense.


A new frontier
By lightfoot on 9/26/2012 2:31:53 PM , Rating: 1
I wonder how many map and navigation related patents Google owns. I also wonder how many of those patents Apple is currently infringing on... This could be a whole new front in the legal war that Apple started.

...and I'm not sure Apple can win this one.




RE: A new frontier
By menting on 9/26/2012 3:50:21 PM , Rating: 3
when has anything prevented Apple from going and patenting the same thing again?


But will it now
By Shadowself on 9/26/2012 4:30:01 PM , Rating: 2
support and provide turn-by-turn directions and other capabilities Google has shipped in Google Maps for Android but refused to put into the previous Google Maps app for iPhone? Will the new iPhone Google Maps app for iPhone finally be 100% feature equivalent with the latest and greatest version of Google Maps on Android?

Some people have lamented the loss of Google Maps on iPhone and some have even vilified Apple for pulling it as a default app. However, for the last couple years the Google Maps app for iPhone has *not* been feature equivalent with the latest and greatest version of Google Maps for Android. Why whine about losing an inferior product?




RE: But will it now
By lightfoot on 9/26/2012 6:02:46 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why whine about losing an inferior product?

Because it was replaced with an even more inept product? That might be it.


By Tony Swash on 9/27/2012 3:47:02 PM , Rating: 2
A fake ad from Googlerola to match the Nokia video fake.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/27/googles-...




By ritualm on 9/27/2012 6:40:35 PM , Rating: 2
It's an amazingly easy act to do, given just how outdated and information-deficient Apple Maps is compared to Nokia and Google's offerings. TomTom's map data is more accurate than Apple's, which depends on the former's! Imagine that.


By kamiller422 on 9/26/2012 6:19:53 PM , Rating: 2
All roads lead to Android.




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