Google Motion to Dismiss 061313 by steven_musil
Sources: Google via Scribd, The Guardian
quote: So if you hit a site where you've logged in with your email address, and that address is stored in a cookie, Google AdWords can serve you ads based on an email message you sent to a GMail user, despite never using Gmail yourself. There are privacy concerns there.
quote: So you're telling me you don't think Google doesn't create advertising profiles for a user with an outlook.com email address based on what was sent to Gmail users? They absolutely do. They do the same thing based off IP address correlated to search terms.
quote: Also, AdSense may be on a site where you use your email address to login. They would have access to that cookie to serve you up advertisements. On some sites I use my work address, on others I use my Gmail address. And they have different advertising profiles.
quote: Hell every goddamn day it seems Microsoft is making some statement, changing some plan, about the new Xbox. If they did change the Kinect requirement too, I guess I just forgot. My bad I guess.Maybe people having real concerns about privacy had something to do with that change? Just a bit?
quote: So one company makes a device that has a camera, but does NOT transmit over the net, so is not spying, is a privacy concern
quote: If this was Microsoft with Outlook.com, you would be slating them yet again, and don't for a second try to deny it.
quote: So, with your logic, if Microsoft uses Kinect to allow the NSA to spy on you, that's fine,
quote: This is the cost. Google is doing what they have to do,
quote: The end user can simply decide to not use the service.
quote: The alternative is having the Government and courts effectively make services like Gmail, which thrive on ad revenue, illegal or unsustainable.
quote: Google’s brief uses a wrong-headed analogy; sending an email is like giving a letter to the Post Office. I expect the Post Office to deliver the letter based on the address written on the envelope. I don’t expect the mail carrier to open my letter and read it.
quote: I think it would be nice if Gmail would try, just a little bit, to keep their own house under control. Right now if I just blocked @Gmail.com on my mail server, forums, etc. I'd probably block about 80% of all the BS that ever happens.
quote: Funny I haven't been called a "retard" to my face since middle school. Wonder why that is?
quote: It then uses those keywords to target advertisements at you and your contacts.
quote: When you're in Gmail there is a bar over on the right hand side of the screen that contains ads. If you're using AdBlocker or something similar you likely don't see them.
quote: But Google is still scanning your email looking for search terms.
quote: But I understand them, the majority of the population does not.
quote: This cannot be right. Gmail has one of the best spam filters of any web provider. I've never gotten a targeted advertisement because of Gmail.I do, however, get the hell spammed out of me by Ebay, Amazon, and Newegg. But not because of Gmail, just because I shop at those retailers.So is this FUD, am I just lucky, or what?
quote: I feel like a dunce.
quote: Honestly this is the big downside for this ruling. If Goolge is found guilty it sets a tough precedent for ANY spam filter, how far would it set the internet world back if no "3rd party to the conversation" could scan for spam. Our inboxes would look like they did back in the early 2000's full of 90% crap.