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Google wants to build communication and collaboration

Google is previewing a new web application to developers that may eventually supplant Gmail. Google Wave goes beyond the basic capabilities of email in order to let people communicate and work collaboratively in real-time with text, photos, videos, maps, gadgets, and social networking feeds from other sources on the internet.

A "wave" is equal parts conversation and document. A user starts off by creating a wave and adding people to it. Everyone on a wave can insert a reply or edit the wave directly. It is being billed as concurrent, collaborative rich text editing, where you can see on your screen nearly instantly what your fellow collaborators are typing in your wave. That means Google Wave is well suited for quick messages as well as for persistent content. A "playback" function is also available to rewind the wave and see how it evolved.

The project is being headed up by Software Engineering Manager Lars Rasmussen, who joined Google with his brother Jens after their tiny mapping startup named "Where 2 Tech" was bought by Google. Technologies from that company eventually became a part of Google Maps.

"Everyone on your wave can use richly formatted text, photos, gadgets, and even feeds from other sources on the web. You see on your screen nearly instantly what your fellow collaborators are typing in your wave," stated Rasmussen in a blog post.

The code for Google Wave will be open source, with developers given freedom to modify it as they wish. Google Wave can be thought of as being comprised of three layers: the product, the platform, and the protocol.

The Google Wave product is now available as a developer preview, and is the web application portion that people will use to access and edit waves. It is a HTML 5 application built on Google's Web Toolkit, and includes a rich text editor and other functions like desktop drag-and-drop, which will enable users to drag a set of photos into a wave.

Google Wave can also be considered as a platform. It is being developed with a set of Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) that will allow developers to build new extensions that work inside waves. Developers will also be able to embed waves in other web services.

The underlying format is the Google Wave protocol, used as the means of sharing and storing waves. It includes the live concurrency control, which allows edits to be reflected instantly across users and services.

"Developers are going to see the potential of Google Wave as a platform; we hope they'll leap on it," said Wave engineer Adam Schuck. "They'll be able to integrate it with existing systems they use today, or produce new tools that allow people to improve and manage their communications."

The ideas behind Google Wave came from a project by Jens Rasmussen codenamed "Walkabout". His basic idea was that the two most successful forms of digital communication were originally designed in the 1960's to imitate analog formats. Email was designed to mimicked snail mail, and instant messaging mimicked phone calls. However, many different forms of communication had been invented since then, such as blogs, wikis, and real-time collaborative documents. Walkabout was proposed as a new communications model that used all these advances as a starting point. Greater capacity on the internet and fast internet connections make this new paradigm possible, along with computers that have lots of memory and capable of playing several concurrent video streams.

Google Wave's prototyping started with a five-person team in Google's offices in Sydney. An expanded team has been working on bringing about a public release for the last two years.

No launch date for a public product has been set. "We're inviting developers to add all kinds of cool stuff before our public launch," wrote Rasmussen.



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Meh
By Spivonious on 5/29/2009 9:59:48 AM , Rating: 4
Sounds like an expanded Twitter-like service. I hate Twitter.




RE: Meh
By g3pro on 5/29/2009 10:09:33 AM , Rating: 3
Kudos on reading the article! I am confident that you will be accepted to the university of your choice based on your SAT critical reading skills.


RE: Meh
By Spivonious on 5/29/2009 10:31:59 AM , Rating: 5
I did read the article.

It's Twitter with live collaboration and adding documents and images into the mix. So it's Twitter + something like MS's Sharepoint.

I think Google is grasping at straws here trying to find what the next "hot" thing will be on the Web.

Actually, thinking about this some more, it's really just a fancy chat room.


RE: Meh
By g3pro on 5/29/2009 10:34:13 AM , Rating: 1
Actually, to be fair, it's more like a snail-mailing list with some added features. This is, totally like, 50 years old technology. Get with the times, Google!!!


RE: Meh
By Spivonious on 5/29/2009 11:06:35 AM , Rating: 3
Sarcasm noted.

Seriously though, what does this bring to the web community that hasn't been done before?


RE: Meh
By dastruch on 5/29/2009 8:04:05 PM , Rating: 4
"Google" label

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RE: Meh
By marvdmartian on 5/29/2009 10:54:24 AM , Rating: 5
I certainly hope that the folks at Google won't be so short-sighted (or arrogant) to assume that everyone would rather have this, than the current g-mail service.

Personally, I like g-mail the way it is, a simple, no-frills mail application on the web. I don't need the capability to do all the stuff they're talking about, and wouldn't use it. Chances are, given the choice, I'd turn off all those features, so I wouldn't be bothered by them.

Here's a clue, Google. Make it a choice for folks....stay with g-mail, or "upgrade" to this new service. Shoving it down our throats as an "improvement" will just piss off a bunch of people, imho.


RE: Meh
By MrPeabody on 5/29/2009 11:09:12 AM , Rating: 2
Hear, hear, though "shoving it down our throats" may be a bit over the top.

Most of my small-business clients, and even some of my larger corporate clients, allow access to Gmail. Most of these same outfits block access to sites like Facebook. I don't think very many of them would hesitate to remove access to something like Google Wave.

Access to a personal e-mail site can be somewhat justifiable. Access to a rich social collaboration site can be much less so. Especially when the cost of bandwidth is factor.

Having said all that, it sounds like a nifty idea outside of the business world.


RE: Meh
By foolsgambit11 on 5/29/2009 2:51:11 PM , Rating: 2
I think part of the idea is that it would be a benefit in the business world, as well - project collaboration and the like. Sort of like a more functional version of MS Office's collaborative document system.


RE: Meh
By jconan on 6/1/2009 3:42:37 PM , Rating: 2
but not at the expense of business practices and other company sensitive information that could jeopardize the company and benefit competitors...


RE: Meh
By Hieyeck on 5/31/2009 11:21:22 AM , Rating: 1
6 this man.


Here come the antitrust whiners...
By Ordr on 5/29/2009 9:34:51 AM , Rating: 2
Start the countdown.




RE: Here come the antitrust whiners...
By jadeskye on 5/29/2009 9:38:55 AM , Rating: 1
I'm from the UK so what i say is hopefully unbiased :p

The EU will have a field day with this, if they can fine microsoft for packaging their own free product with windows then they'll take google to the cleaners over this.

Shame as it seems like a great idea, and anything to compete with facebook on a realistic level would be fantastic.


By LRonaldHubbs on 5/29/2009 9:48:48 AM , Rating: 5
This isn't quite the same though, because according to the article, the code for Wave is open source, which means competitors can freely modify and use it themselves. So if for example Facebook wanted their services to interface with this, they could do it. Or am I missing something here?


RE: Here come the antitrust whiners...
By jamesbond007 on 5/30/2009 12:58:59 PM , Rating: 2
For stupid - if I operated Google and EU tried to pull that one over on me, I'd just block all EU-based IP addresses from hitting any point of Google's reach. If you can't use it, you can't sue me.

Problem solved!


RE: Here come the antitrust whiners...
By bigboxes on 5/30/2009 6:47:28 PM , Rating: 2
Way to overreact. :eyeroll:


By msomeoneelsez on 6/1/2009 1:34:49 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, I absolutely love that idea.

After all, the EU's terms for fining a company outside of their own control is a take it our leave us policy... Either pay the fine, or get the heck outta dodge... Except... wait a minute here... what would that mean for the consumers? Google has how much money saved up now? They can hold out against the EU for at least a couple weeks would be my bet, and that would cripple the EU.

In fact, it might put them in their place... MS and Intel can't do it, but Google sure as hell can... I say more power to Google for the innovation and making the internet a much more accessible place... after all, its free.


I'm leary...
By 13Gigatons on 5/29/2009 12:33:20 PM , Rating: 3
One thing I liked about Gmail was that it was uncluttered.

If isn't broke why fix it?




RE: I'm leary...
By bodar on 5/29/2009 11:16:35 PM , Rating: 3
Why does everyone assume this means the end of Gmail? Don't get me wrong, I love my Gmail, but there's a reason this thing has it's own name. It's a whole different animal that happens to incorporate email into itself.


John M.
By Majes on 5/29/2009 10:43:02 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
The project is being headed up by Software Engineering Manager Lars Rasmussen, who joined Google with his brother Jens after being foiled by Bruce Willis in the original Die Hard


*Fixed




So many possibilities for this!
By acase on 5/29/2009 9:30:11 AM , Rating: 2
Just from my computer graphics area I could see some really cool things from the real time collaborative work that could be done in Google Sketch-up.




By emergnsee on 5/29/2009 1:22:21 PM , Rating: 2
This looks very cool from a collaborative standpoint!


Weird
By tjr508 on 5/29/2009 6:23:47 PM , Rating: 2
Google has enjoyed tremendous success with simple, ultra-intuitive interfaces. This seems like bloated garbage and I don't believe it fits their business model. Please don't mess with my gmail!




RE: Weird
By Morphine06 on 5/29/2009 7:31:17 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah! Get this picture of a beta program outta here! We have no room for your bloated pixel infesting presence. I see you screenshot, and I already know I don't like what you and your kind stand for. Google is known for creating ultra-intuitive INTERFACES, you're just a PICTURE. Take your 2D butt, make like a tree, and get outta here.


And a link?
By Glubbdrubb on 5/29/2009 11:14:19 AM , Rating: 2
So when will Dailytech writers decide to consistently post links to the primary source? All the links in this article are internal and have nothing to do with Google Wave.

Please!

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Check out their key note video:
By Marlowe on 5/31/2009 3:16:30 PM , Rating: 2
Check out their key note on http://wave.google.com/ I think it looks really promising! It's a 1h 20 min video, but it was still cool ;)




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