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Apple and AT&T have silenced Google Voice on the iPhone.  (Source: Gizmodo)
No Google Voice for you

Last week Google announced the release of its Latitude web application for Apple's iPhone.  During the release, Google revealed that it had previously developed a full version application for the iPhone, but had been rejected over Apple's concerns that the app would be "too similar" to Maps on the iPhone.  Many were unhappy with this ruling because they wanted to use the service as a background app.

Now Apple has stirred the pot again, rejecting another Google app.  This time Apple has shot down Google Voice, a service from Google that offers a free phone number, free SMS text messaging, free domestic calls, and cheaper international calls, as well as advanced call screening features.  The app is currently available on Android and Blackberry phones, though the service is currently invite only.

A Google spokesperson states, "We work hard to bring Google applications to a number of mobile platforms, including the iPhone. Apple did not approve the Google Voice application we submitted six weeks ago to the Apple App Store. We will continue to work to bring our services to iPhone users - for example, by taking advantage of advances in mobile browsers."

Many are blaming AT&T for the rejection, saying the company pressured Apple to reject it.  No official word has come yet on who made the final decision that sent the Google Voice app hurdling towards extinction.

IPhone customers, however, can still access many of Google Voice’s features by using the web interface. 



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Uck Fapple
By enlil242 on 7/28/2009 10:50:16 AM , Rating: 5
And AT&T. I hope this spurs people to find an alternate phone / carrier... TMO doesn't seem to have a problem with it. Sprint / Palm should pick up the ball and run with this.




RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/28/09, Rating: -1
RE: Uck Fapple
By EasyC on 7/28/2009 12:02:00 PM , Rating: 4
Thats because mastered the game "Lemmings" as a child and has applied it to the tech industry. Everytime I see someone purchase an Apple product, I think of them in a blue suit jumping off a cliff with an umbrella.


RE: Uck Fapple
By EasyC on 7/28/2009 12:02:33 PM , Rating: 1
Steve Jobs ^


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/28/09, Rating: -1
RE: Uck Fapple
By EasyC on 7/28/2009 12:28:04 PM , Rating: 4
They aren't dumb, they just don't have enough time. The "others" spend their time engineering products that can operate below the mason dixon line without burning your hand, or have tools like copy & paste on the FIRST version of a product, or can take video as well as photo, and share said video as well.

Priorities....


RE: Uck Fapple
By Maxima2k2se on 7/28/2009 1:14:32 PM , Rating: 5
I LOL'ed so hard when I saw the commercial for the iphone 3gs advertising copy and paste as a feature lmao


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/28/09, Rating: -1
RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/29/2009 3:27:15 AM , Rating: 5
Only proves how stupid consumers are. And the fact that Apple's products really are overpriced.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/29/09, Rating: -1
RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/29/2009 12:40:50 PM , Rating: 2
Who's talking about PCs? I'm talking about cell phones. Where is my money? Not with Apple. AT&T gets a slice because I'm on my parents plan. Hard to beat a $10 cell phone bill for myself.

I spent my money on a Sony Ericsson phone. Best money I've spent on a phone.

Ohh, and I never said rich people are dumb. I'm not sure where you come up with these ideas Pirks. I was only saying consumers are stupid because they don't know how much a phone like the original iPhone was really worth. Though I guess at this point it's more AT&T since they buy it and then subsidize it. When the iPhone first came out it was $500 or $600 depending on the model, IIRC. And it certainly wasn't worth that much. I'm not even sure the list of missing features on the original iPhone would fit in one post.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/29/2009 4:39:48 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah, who's talking about PCs? I for one didn't, I meant PC geeks , learn to read eh? ;)
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consumers are stupid because they don't know how much a phone like the original iPhone was really worth
And you are smart because you know how much it's worth? Hahahaaa :))) Post some more, I love kids like you who just kinow everything, whatever each thing should cost and such, hahahaaa :)))) Best joke of the day, please post some more!


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/29/2009 4:43:23 PM , Rating: 2
kinow == know


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/29/2009 11:00:49 PM , Rating: 2
Seems quite obvious that if they have 20% of the profit for the entire market but only 1% of the market share that their product is overpriced. If you can't see that then I don't know what else can be shown to prove it.

I equate PC geeks to talking about PCs, cause if you're not talking about PCs then they aren't PC geeks. Although I don't know what the difference is between a regular geek and a PC geek.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/30/2009 1:26:38 AM , Rating: 2
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if they have 20% of the profit for the entire market but only 1% of the market share that their product is overpriced
Ah, the old PC geek saying, all premium goods are "overpriced", probably because PC geeks are so poor :)) BMW is "overpriced", Lexus is "overpriced" and so on.

So predictable

*yawns*
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PC geeks to talking about PCs
And bashing Apple, that's the most important part heheh :))


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/30/2009 11:27:50 PM , Rating: 2
Typical crappy car analogy. BMW and Lexus actually have luxury features that many other cars don't have. What does the iPhone have that none of the other phones have? Multi-touch gestures, that's it. Only other thing that it has is looks. If you like paying for looks, go ahead. You can have your Ferrari while I smoke you with my Evo, I'm crap with cars but hopefully you get my point.

Apple gets bashed when needed. Microsoft gets bashed when needed. Hell, even Blizzard gets bashed when needed. And I think Blizzard has been absolutely fantastic so far, but their recent actions bring up doubts. I don't discriminate. Others just need more bashing than others.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/31/2009 2:22:48 AM , Rating: 1
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Multi-touch gestures, that's it
You're so tech illiterate, this is shocking. Did you read Anand's review about iPhone 3GS having next gen ARM inside while other crapphones have inferior hardware (except Pre)? You don't know sh!t about hardware, and you dare to say something about luxury features? Hilarious! This is why you're a zealot, not a normal, balanced and educated person. Low tech literacy is a first sign of zealotry, did you know that? ;)


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/31/2009 2:25:41 PM , Rating: 2
I'm sorry is a CPU now a feature of a phone? I always thought a CPU was a necessary piece of hardware for a phone. I can say that the Xperia I compare the iPhone to uses a dual-core ARM processor, the Qualcomm 7200 according to reviews. Of course the Xperia came out about a year ago in the US, and slightly before that elsewhere in the world. Hard to have the latest next-gen stuff when it wasn't around back then. I can't find any CPU information on the Satio they are supposed to release in October. Wouldn't happen to know anything about it would you?

You don't have to have the latest hardware in it to make it great. Hell, might as well say the iPhone sucks because it doesn't have the best screen. The Xperia has a screen resolution of 800x480. It also doesn't even have a basic FM tuner or LED light. The screen doesn't really matter that much though, but the last two are quite useful.

You really need to stop spouting useless information and acting like it makes the iPhone totally superior.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/31/2009 9:40:14 PM , Rating: 1
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is a CPU now a feature of a phone?
Is V8 a feature of a Lexus?
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I can't find any CPU information on the Satio they are supposed to release in October
Same CPU as in iPhone 3GS
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The Xperia has a screen
Don't tell me BS about Xperia's screen that's SMALLER than iPhone's being an advantage. Are you serious?
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You really need to stop spouting useless information

You really need to stop spouting slogans like "Multi-touch gestures, that's it", it looks quite dumb :)


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/31/2009 11:04:57 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, a V8 is a feature. It makes an actual difference in the car. A better CPU can help provided it's needed, like when a phone lags but that's it. Hell, if people actually cared that much about what CPU is used then everyone would list it in the tech specs for the phone. They don't and tracking down what CPU a phone uses can be difficult sometimes.

Yes, the screen on the X1 is smaller, but it has far better resolution. Of course, I was touting the screen as a big reason to get the phone. It really isn't. Many people like smaller devices so it can fit in their pocket. Size is more preference. Can't say the screen isn't more advanced though.

Of course, if you could name something the iPhone can do that NO other phone can do, and I haven't mentioned, then I'd stop saying things like that. But of course you can't.

The only person that looks that stupid at DT is you. In part because I don't try to insult you in every post.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 8/1/2009 1:10:08 AM , Rating: 2
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A better CPU can help provided it's needed, like when a phone lags but that's it
Yeah, like better CPU doesn't allow for new classes of applications not possible on uberslow old CPUs. Your illiteracy is astonishing.
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if you could name something the iPhone can do that NO other phone can do
Can you name what Lexus can do that NO other car can do?


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 8/1/2009 2:24:18 AM , Rating: 2
No, I actually can't. I don't know crap about cars. I can't afford a Lexus anyway. No point in looking at stuff I can't afford by a long shot. Only a few car models on the road actually have features that others don't.

And what applications? Games? I know you can't predict the future, but what other applications are going to need that much CPU power? The reason netbooks are popular is because we actually don't need that much power for most of the applications that are commonly used. I doubt you're going to need to encode video, do serious photo editing, run your iPhone as a server or anything else that requires some serious computational power. Having extra CPU power that goes to waste most of the time isn't a smart move on a portable device.

Ohhh, and I'm not illiterate. I can actually read and comprehend quite well. All you provide are insults, and occasionally vague information that is only somewhat helpful.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 8/2/2009 5:55:42 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
And what applications? Games?
Games, voice recognition/translation, augmented reality... ah, forget it, you won't understand anyway. Too narrow mind.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 8/2/2009 1:33:29 PM , Rating: 2
Voice recognition/translation can already be done. Games I already mentioned, though I personally would rather use a dedicated portable gaming device. And augmented reality? I don't believe I've heard of that before. What is it? Is it something along the lines of simulating a drunk person? That would certainly be interesting, but I think very useless. Of course, I'm really not certain what you mean by it.


RE: Uck Fapple
By wifiwolf on 7/28/2009 10:55:48 PM , Rating: 2
6+
I've played that too and grown up. Now these people are still playing it with their real money


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/29/09, Rating: 0
RE: Uck Fapple
By themaster08 on 7/30/2009 7:36:01 AM , Rating: 2
Not your pubic hair either.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/30/2009 3:20:22 PM , Rating: 1
Shut the door to your basement, or your mom will come and get ya little troll :)))


RE: Uck Fapple
By The0ne on 7/29/2009 9:48:28 AM , Rating: 2
Or the one that suicides.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Chocobollz on 7/29/2009 5:36:58 PM , Rating: 1
It keeps growing because those ppls who bought it are like dumb sheeps, they followed their shepherd, Jobba The Steve! ;-)


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/29/2009 6:46:41 PM , Rating: 2
Dontcha enjoy the muppet show of all the other losers like Nokia and MS hastily creating their own iPhone, iPod and AppStore ripoffs, desperately trying to build the same sheep herd as Jobba did :)))


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/30/2009 11:31:09 PM , Rating: 2
I'm sorry, but none of those things were original when Apple made them. They just happened to become successful. I'm not saying that's not great for them, but please don't try and make it seem like Apple is leading the way in innovation.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/31/2009 2:32:48 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
They just happened to become successful
Hahaha, iPod was just RANDOMLY selected by US consumers as their favorite MP3 player, hahaha LOLLLZZZ, this is THE best man! US consumers decided to play russian roulette and then BANG BANG BANG and just randomly iPod survived! aaahhh ahhh... post some more acid sh!t like that, I lllove it :)))) lololol :))))


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/31/2009 2:32:04 PM , Rating: 2
That's not exactly what I was saying, but I should have specified more for your tiny little brain to comprehend. Everything Apple has done successfully has been done before, just that at the time the technology just wasn't there. Meaning it didn't function well enough or was just too expensive. Apple had the right timing for it, which is usually critical for any product. Doesn't make it the best or the first, or original for that matter.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/31/2009 7:44:03 PM , Rating: 2
Ever asked yourself why Apple competitors can't find this "right timing" thing, eh? ;))


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/31/2009 11:10:24 PM , Rating: 2
No, because I know why. They tried to push the technological barrier and probably lost a lot of money in the process. Hard to persuade your investors into trying again when they've already lost money.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 8/1/2009 12:49:01 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I remember who was pushing technological barrier when Apple released its first iPod, that had no competition at all with regard to ubercompact size combined with some serious storage capacity. Don't try to sell that BS to me, I'm too experienced in old MP3 players to buy it :P Been shopping around for a DAP since 1999.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 8/1/2009 2:34:46 AM , Rating: 2
But they weren't the first to make an MP3 player, which was my whole point. At the time, which was in '99 actually, the technology just wasn't there to make it feasible. It didn't have nearly enough storage for its price. It was barely feasible when Apple made it's first iPod. I'm not sure if you remember or not, but the iPod was very expensive when it debuted. It's saving grace was the massive amount of storage on it.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 8/2/2009 5:44:32 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
It's saving grace was the massive amount of storage on it
So now you backed off and saying that Apple pushed technological bondary? Like to contradict yourself much, eh? ;)


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 8/2/2009 2:44:43 PM , Rating: 2
That's not pushing the technological boundary when they used an existing HDD and stuck it into a product that had already been tried and failed years earlier. That's evolutionary, not revolutionary.

The first MP3 player was certainly revolutionary because it actually used flash memory which was still relatively new for it's time.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 8/2/2009 5:06:32 PM , Rating: 1
Tehnological boundary is not gigahertz and gigabytes, it's building device that people actually want to use and pay for. You'll grow older and you'll understand that, mark my words.

Too bad Apple competitors can only push gigahertz and gigabytes, all the marketing numbers you PC geeks drool over. THIS kind of "technological boundary" is a way into oblivion. Market share of iPods proved that. Now you can keep your eyes closed and worship gigabyte "boundaries", market has already left people like you behind. You PC geeks are a proud Creative/iRiver/chinese whatever wielding minority now :P


RE: Uck Fapple
By robinthakur on 8/4/2009 12:28:37 PM , Rating: 2
Err, Whilst Pirks is hilariously off in places, the iPhone is clearly the best mobile device out there right now. Hands down. No other device offers the breadth and quality of apps that it does. This factor alone more than the improved CPU etc. makes it invaluable. Those that denigrate the Apps as fart simulators and rubbish casual games needs to really wake up, there is an app now for virtually everything you could wish for, and the games are really decent alternatives to PSP and DS. The OS for the iPhone has no current competition save for the Pre, but it looks like Palm have decided to put out stupid obtuse advertising to confuse people and sabotage their own product.

Those that pointlessly bash the iPhone still for lacking features (what exactly?) must live in an alternate reality. The iPhone is phenomenally succcessful with people who *use* mobile technology and don't just jack off over the technical specifications. Not because of marketing muscle but because it was a revolutionary product, and I fail to see how you can claim to have an interest in technology without even seeing that...! Nothing original about the iphone? Apple not leading the way in mobile innovation? Give me a break! Is that why everybody else now copies Apple's lead in the mobile space and the previously dominant Nokia's approach and OS now looks as dated at Windows 3.11?


RE: Uck Fapple
By iSmug on 7/28/2009 11:47:26 AM , Rating: 2
I want a iPhone 3GS but I hate Apple's way of doing business and I just don't know if I can bring myself to give them my money.

I like Google Voice though so this may be the last straw...

Uck Fapple indeed.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/28/09, Rating: -1
RE: Uck Fapple
By iSmug on 7/28/2009 12:20:23 PM , Rating: 2
Nope... Do you have a point?


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/28/2009 3:08:16 PM , Rating: 1
Never mind, it was for those capable of reading between the lines.


RE: Uck Fapple
By iSmug on 7/28/2009 6:15:19 PM , Rating: 4
I find your reply ironic...

Anyways, my message "between the lines" was how would jailbreaking the phone help me with what I posted?

Apple will profit from me buying one regardless of how I use it or where I buy it from. As I replied bellow, I doubt Google would release and support the iPhone version now. Please provide the link if you know otherwise..


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/28/09, Rating: -1
RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/29/2009 3:34:00 AM , Rating: 5
So paying Apple helps people who hate Apple? I think you forget that we aren't brainwashed like yourself. Jailbreaking only really helps those who don't like AT&T as they are no longer limited to AT&T service. True, jailbreaking also allows you to install other applications and such, but finding ones that didn't make it into the Apple App Store usually isn't easy. This one is an exception because it came from Google and is also available for other phones, like the G1. Apps from individuals that get rejected are almost always lost forever.

I believe he is smart to not buy the iPhone if he doesn't like Apple. Though, by extension it means never buying any Apple product.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/29/2009 12:30:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
paying Apple helps people who hate Apple?
Yes, if you badly desire iPhone 3GS like iSmug does.
quote:
we aren't brainwashed
Didn't help iSmug with his iPhone desire, heheheh :)))
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by extension it means never buying any Apple product
Yes, if iSmug is a zealot like you. Not sure about that, let the man speak for himself.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/29/2009 1:02:44 PM , Rating: 2
You, my funny funny friend, never make a lick of sense. Though none of what you say explains anything your last point just shows how uneducated you must be. While I'm not saying he is or should never buy any Apple products, IF he does Apple is then able to use the money any way they see fit. Meaning if he buys and iPod, computer, or whatever, that they could use the money on it's iPhone division which he obviously disdains because of their business practices. It therefore seems logical that to prevent Apple from continuing such practices, and perhaps future practices, that he shouldn't give them any money.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/29/2009 4:36:33 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, poor iSmug is going to be in an infinite torture, he desires iPhone so badly, but AT&T has some of its own business plans with it that make, say, Google Voice prohibited on the device. And Apple is now supposed to be a culprit? Hahaha, you're soo funny, post some more stupid things like that, I had a good laugh :)))


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/29/2009 11:30:38 PM , Rating: 2
In this instance, yes. But Apple has banned many apps it deems unfit, like the South Park app. At what point did Apple become everyone's parents?


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/30/2009 4:33:02 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Apple become everyone's who wants their goods and services parents
Fixed ;-)


RE: Uck Fapple
By themaster08 on 7/30/2009 7:54:35 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Yes, if you badly desire iPhone 3GS like iSmug does.

I don't think there exists a word to describe the magnitude of your idiocy.

quote:
Didn't help iSmug with his iPhone desire

It obviously did considering he's contemplating getting one. Otherwise he would have already purchased one.

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Yes, if iSmug is a zealot like you. Not sure about that, let the man speak for himself.

If you don't like a company's business practices, and as a result refuse to buy any of their products, how is that being a zealot?

How can you possibly not see how out of touch with reality you are towards everybody else? It just astounds me.

Then again, everybody here knows you only do it for your own shits and giggles, albeit no one else is remotely humoured by you in the same way as you are by yourself. More like laughing at you rather than with you.

It must really suck to get it both at school and at home, eh?


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/30/2009 12:31:04 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
If you don't like a company's business practices, and as a result refuse to buy any of their products, how is that being a zealot?
Non-zealot jailbreaks and satisfies his iPhone 3GS desire this way (and also avoids baaaad baaad baaad Apple business practices by jailbreaking), while a zealot makes sh!t posts like yours or Alexstarfire's ones :P


RE: Uck Fapple
By themaster08 on 7/30/2009 5:35:16 PM , Rating: 2
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and also avoids baaaad baaad baaad Apple business practices by jailbreaking

So funding Apple helps to avoid their business practices? I always thought that to avoid a company's business practices you avoid their products, thus not funding their ability to make such business practices in the first place.

Well, that's how it mostly works here on Earth.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/30/2009 5:46:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
funding Apple helps to avoid their business practices?
Funding Apple helps to satisfy iSmug's desire for iPhone 3GS :)))
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you avoid their products
Why avoid your own desires? Satisfy them! Don't be a zealot! That's how it mostly works here in North America. Sorry if you're from some poor 3rd world country ;))


RE: Uck Fapple
By themaster08 on 7/30/2009 6:39:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Funding Apple helps to satisfy iSmug's desire for iPhone 3GS :)))

Yes it does, but it doesn't help to avoid their business practices, which was the initial argument.

quote:
Why avoid your own desires?

Because for some people, morals and ethics come before desires. That might be too much for an amoral monkey like you to comprehend, but there you have it. I'm wasting my time.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/30/2009 6:57:40 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
it doesn't help to avoid their business practices
Well, their business practices gave iSmug something he desires, so why avoid them? Illogical.
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I'm wasting my time
Me too, but it's fun eh? :))


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/30/2009 11:46:44 PM , Rating: 2
First off, don't lump all business practices together. They may have made a wildly popular phone, which was a good practice, but you can't tell me that you're defending their horrible decision to make a moral decide on which apps are allowed to be run on a phone that the consumer purchased.

Secondly, I think I figured out why you act the way you do...... you're the devil aren't you? Come on, you can tell us. Only a fool indulges all desires that they have. Would you work for Hilter if he was going to give you a couple million dollars, or in your case a date with Steve Jobs himself?

I might desire money, but I'm not going to rob a bank to get it.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/31/2009 3:16:43 AM , Rating: 2
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you can't tell me that you're defending their horrible decision to make a moral decide on which apps are allowed to be run on a phone that the consumer purchased
Who cares? Jailbreak man. Learn this magic J word by heart and you become cool and relaxed, okay? ;)))
quote:
I might desire money, but I'm not going to rob a bank to get it.
I may desire a good phone but I'm going to jailbreak it and put my moral nightmare to rest. See?


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/31/2009 2:36:04 PM , Rating: 2
And what happens when Apple decides to brick your precious iPhone again for not complying with their business model? You shouldn't have to jailbreak your phone to use it how you want.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 7/31/2009 9:51:17 PM , Rating: 2
But how do you satisfy iSmug's desire then? There's no choice. Jailbreak and be happy. Who knows what happens in future, Apple may brick him or may not, but you know one thing for sure - right NOW iSmug's desire will be satisfied.

I know iSmug wants The Ideal Phone, but such thing does not exist, ideals can't be material by definition. So by jailbreaking iSmug can get as close to ideal as it is possible for him.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 7/31/2009 11:20:43 PM , Rating: 2
In your eyes maybe, but not necessarily his. And anyway, you can't have everything you desire. I'm probably never going to have sex with a female celebrity. I've learned to deal with it. I'm not quite sure why you can't understand someone else's point of view. We choose not to support companies we dislike. If more people did that then we'd probably have an iPhone that we could use however we want, and an EA that listens to its consumers.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 8/1/2009 1:25:15 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
We choose not to support companies we dislike
Life must be painful when you dislike the company but desire its products :)


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 8/1/2009 2:38:29 AM , Rating: 2
Not sure about the OP, but I don't desire Apple's products. They are all garbage to me. Same goes with EA. Of course, EA makes crap so that part isn't hard.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 8/2/2009 1:31:32 AM , Rating: 2
Crap is inside your head buddy, and EA's Dead Space is the best game of the year for me. Only Doom 3 gets close quality wise. This game is The Real Sh!t. So EA rocks no matter what little whiners say about it.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Alexstarfire on 8/2/2009 4:07:54 AM , Rating: 1
Lol, I think you like to disagree on purpose. I happen to not find that game appealing, but I will say this. With a company that spouts out as many games as EA it's not a shock that they happened to make something decent.

Though I think it's quite funny that many people who bitch about DRM buy EA products, which is where all the hate for DRM is coming from. Not that you fall into that category of course.

I guess I can expect nothing but insults from you since you obviously can't come up with facts or any sources for your claims.


RE: Uck Fapple
By Pirks on 8/2/09, Rating: 0
RE: Uck Fapple
By invidious on 7/28/2009 11:50:01 AM , Rating: 2
Why do you care what carrier people use? How does it harm you to have Apple/ATT do well? If people like their products/services good for them. The iPhone has certainly raised the bar in a lot of ways as far as smartphones are concerned so you only stand to benifit from its success.


RE: Uck Fapple
By SiN on 7/28/2009 12:33:21 PM , Rating: 2
for one, while phone handset makers make handsets and money off selling them, the carriers tend not not like the new smartphones ability to make free phone calls and text messages.

How else would the carriers make money?

I know it is happening that some carriers allow you to use IP chat and surf the net, enabling people to make free phone calls and text messages.

If i remember correctly, google patented the idea that when you make a phone call through a handset, the software searched for the cheapest available network, and used that network to make the call.

All we need is for android to hit market saturation figure that causes the network carriers to bow down and accept they're using old methods to make money.

Apple have positioned themselves fantastically in this respect, where they make money from iTunes through their iPhone. Something the carriers have overlooked implementing.

There will be a day when services providers will allow customers to pay a monthly contract for their internet access over the handset and minute billing and text billing will become a thing of the past. A bit like 3 mobiles implementation in the UK.

To answer your question, to carry on using AT&T and the iPhone, the carriers (and in this case apple) will not let the market evolve and we will continue to be forced to pay high prices for a service that isn't on par with the way the world works today.

(a bit like how the music industry rested on it's laurels and bit torrent and p2p networking prospered - albeit illegally - now we are how many years after Napsters rise and fall, and the music industry still hasn't changed dramatically and they blame pirates, not themselves)


RE: Uck Fapple
By dxf2891 on 7/28/2009 1:27:20 PM , Rating: 2
You know I thought the same thing at first and then I remembered that AT&T insisted that I purchase an unlimited data plan so there is no "going over" my minutes any more. My phone is jail broke and sincerely hope that the Google offerings are made available that way. Screw Apple and AT&T. Yeah they got my money, but now I can do things my way.


RE: Uck Fapple
By enlil242 on 7/28/2009 5:26:04 PM , Rating: 3
Here's a couple reasons:

1) Apple only raised the bar in 'closed platforms' in the mobile marketplace.

2) Look at how much AT&T makes on non-voice features. $30 for their iPhone data plan PLUS $20 for unlimited text messaging is highway robbery.

Also, the app store / itunes store do not make that much money. They only drive hardware sales.

Also, how is it that AT&T would lose money with a google voice app? They don't have a 'fav 5' or 'pick 3' plan anyway.


RE: Uck Fapple
By captainBOB on 7/28/2009 10:13:53 PM , Rating: 2
1) Won't even get into that its so bad.

2)$30 for data is about on par with other smartphones, texting is a different story, $20/month for a couple kb of text is ludicrous, but people don't realize this, its one of those geeky things people could care less about.

Your assumption that the app store/itunes does not make a lot of money shows how uninformed you are.
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2009/07/27/fast-dogf...
not bad a all.

Finally, if this app were allowed, users could circumvent a voice plan for a cheaper (if free) google voice. This would be catastrophic for AT&T.


Google should officially release it on Cydia
By corduroygt on 7/28/2009 11:59:38 AM , Rating: 4
Just to say F.U. to Apple and AT&T like I do. I have jailbroken my iphone, and enjoy tethering and making SIP calls using 3G, and only paying $15/month instead of the $30/month data plan. Sometimes, I just download a free 100 mb app from the app store using 3G just to put more burden on AT&T's network.




By sprockkets on 7/28/2009 5:01:07 PM , Rating: 2
Doesn't Att force you to have the $30 plan for the iphone?


By Alexstarfire on 7/29/2009 3:42:15 AM , Rating: 2
Paying Apple and AT&T is saying FU? It must be opposite day where you live.


RE: Google should officially release it on Cydia
By corduroygt on 7/29/2009 6:52:06 PM , Rating: 2
You're going to pay SOMEONE for a phone and a data service, and I don't think you get much cheaper than $55/month plus my %25 corporate discount, all while going against what they tell you what you can or cannot do. I paid for my iphone and I'll do whatever I want with it.


By Alexstarfire on 7/29/2009 11:11:28 PM , Rating: 2
True, but I had no idea about your corporate discount. Of course, I didn't assume you had to have a smartphone. No smartphone no $55 a month, which is actually less for you. I'd do it off of principle, but I know everyone isn't like me. All I'm trying to say is that you don't pay someone to say FU. At that point they've already gotten what they want from you.


Jail break the iPhone
By SpaceJumper on 7/28/2009 11:59:08 AM , Rating: 3
After jailbreak, you should be able to install the application.




RE: Jail break the iPhone
By iSmug on 7/28/2009 1:40:54 PM , Rating: 2
Will Google make the iPhone version available when the only people that could use it have to jailbreak their phones?


RE: Jail break the iPhone
By Pirks on 7/30/2009 10:00:42 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Jail break the iPhone
By SiliconAddict on 7/28/2009 4:28:19 PM , Rating: 2
Jail break is a poor excuse for bypassing an iPhone and Apple's shit policies. Apple and their iPhone can go to hell.


By uhgotnegum on 7/28/2009 9:57:41 AM , Rating: 3
The rumor-mill has been pointing fingers at AT&T, which is probably (at least partly) true, which begs the question (at least in my mind)...

Would we (those of us who'd want the Google Voice app on iPhone) be better off if exclusivity contracts either went away or were significantly limited?

It's certainly not cut-and-dry as it relates to this story, but I can't help but wonder if this news isn't coming at a really bad time for those who would prefer exclusive contracts to remain unchanged. Personally, I'm on the fence opinion-wise.




By AntiM on 7/28/2009 10:48:55 AM , Rating: 3
I think smartphone providers should be able to dictate whatever conditions and restrictions they want. If people don't like those conditions, then they shouldn't buy the product. If Apple and AT&T want to block certain desirable apps from their phone, then that just means their product is less desirable and maybe people won't be as inclined to purchase it. There are plenty of viable alternatives to the iPhone. People don't have to put up with the kind of crap Apple pulls all the time.
If a phone is tied to a certain carrier, and you don't like that carrier, then don't buy the phone. Market forces will soon sort this mess out.


By dagamer34 on 7/28/2009 11:32:36 AM , Rating: 2
That's like AT&T telling you what landline phones you are and aren't allowed to use for "security" reasons. And if you don't think this is ever happened before, look up: "FCC vs. Carterfone" and you'll see the past often likes to repeat itself.

Blocking apps for security reasons is VERY different from blocking apps for anti-competitive reasons. If AT&T wants to just prop up their own apps and block out all others, that's when Apple & AT&T will get into quite a bit of trouble with the FCC.


Make if for the Pre
By ProsperoLT on 7/28/2009 2:09:55 PM , Rating: 5
Make it for the Pre... Palm won't block it.

Another reason to stop using content managed Apple products.




More money for the lawyers, yay :-/
By Aloonatic on 7/28/2009 10:06:54 AM , Rating: 2
This is going to crop up again and again and will probably end up in the courts, oh joy.

By the way, anyone heard about the spotify app that was going to be released for the iPhone some time soon and whether it "passed" the Apple test?

I'm not sure if it's available in the USA yet.

http://www.spotify.com/en/

It's a kinda "free" music streaming service paid for by adds (you can pay a subscription to get rid of them of course, but they are not too intrusive) that has a fair few songs on their servers. It's a bit hit and miss though, but pretty a pretty useful program to have on your desktop.




By Isaiah on 7/28/2009 12:04:38 PM , Rating: 2
It's not available in the USA yet, however I don't see why Apple/AT&T would have a problem with it. There is already a Pandora iPhone app, and spotify looks like pretty much the same thing.


Worldwide iPhone apps
By Lonyo on 7/28/2009 11:49:42 AM , Rating: 2
How does the iPhone app store work on a worldwide basis?
Are all apps made available to all countries, or does each country have its own app store with different approval processes/submissions?

Surely either this screws over people in countries that aren't the USA, or if not, surely people could find a way to buy this app from a non-US iPhone app store.

It does seem crazy that potentially US values or networks (if it is an AT&T issue) could affect what apps are available to other users in other countries.




RE: Uck Fapple
By 41A on 8/3/2009 7:56:09 PM , Rating: 2
pirks...a lure

apple... a fruit

comment... a conundrum

opinion... a fallacy




By 41A on 8/3/2009 9:06:01 PM , Rating: 2
I suppose that if the same person memorized the song and sang it in public... or sang it in a bar on karaoke night "...I suppose we can say he stole a song."




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