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The G1 phone's tethering applications are reposted after "accidental" removal -- they're just not viewable to T-Mobile customers -- almost all the G1/Android Marketplace users.  (Source: The Brisbane Times)
Tethering is in for Google's Android OS -- just not for customers of T-Mobile, the only carrier with an Android phone

Google raised quite a fuss when it began playing the role of censor on its Android Marketplace, removing tethering applications which the carrier of its G1 phone, T-Mobile, found offensive.  While a kill switch had been known for some time, Google had never before practiced such tactics and many hailed the move as the end of Google's calls for smart phone "openness".

Now Google has reversed its decision in a rather humorous fashion.  Google announced that it has reposted the offending tethering applications.  The only problem is nobody can see them.  G1 users are all registered with T-Mobile, and it turns out Google really did repost the applications, but that they are unavailable for T-Mobile customers -- virtually everyone with a G1 phone.

Google states in a release to the affected developers:

We inadvertently unpublished your application for all mobile providers; if you like, we can restore your app so that all Android Market users outside the T-Mobile US network will have access to your application.

Users are left to scratch their head at Google's graciousness in "correcting" this "mistake". 

Ultimately the incident highlight carriers increasingly tight control over handset makers and what capabilities they allow.  Handset makers like Apple and Google have flourished by nurturing application markets, but their carriers are carefully regulating these markets, weeding out applications which overlap with their service. 

In the case of smart phone tethering, typically an expensive addition to plans on top pre-existing data plans, it’s easy to see what the carriers have to lose if customers find a way to get this service for free.  



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wrong title?
By cigar3tte on 4/2/2009 1:34:43 PM , Rating: 2
Title seems misleading. Google meant to remove tethering apps from T-Mobile US users, but instead removed for T-Mobile in other regions?




RE: wrong title?
By JasonMick (blog) on 4/2/2009 1:45:40 PM , Rating: 1
You're absolutely right, that sounded a bit confusing. I changed it a bit, so I hope its clearer.

Google basically says removing access for everyone was an "accident", but it is purposefully not letting T-Mobile users have access.


RE: wrong title?
By futrtrubl on 4/2/2009 2:01:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
T-Mobile, the only carrier with to carry an Android phone


;'|


RE: wrong title?
By JasonMick (blog) on 4/2/2009 3:32:03 PM , Rating: 1
:)


RE: wrong title?
By heiwashin on 4/6/2009 4:15:32 AM , Rating: 2
I use my phone on AT&T's network giving me access to all aforementioned apps ;) Although admittedly i noticed i don't have access to t-mobile exclusive apps such as pac-man, but there's not many.


RE: wrong title?
By Moishe on 4/2/2009 3:31:08 PM , Rating: 5
This is a pretty smart move. It places the blame on T-Mobile instead of them. They get away with being "open" while not being open.


This now makes sense
By sprockkets on 4/2/2009 1:57:35 PM , Rating: 2
What is meant by outside the T-Mobile US Network can mean anyone who bought the G1 without a T-Mobile contract. There are several phones that have a carrier restrictive firmware and a generic firmware without restrictions.

This makes sense; allow those with "unlocked" (meaning not just a sim unlocked phone but a non-carrier generic firmware phone) to use whatever features they want, even if it is used on T-Mobile's network.

Of course, since the 3G freq on the G1 works only with T-Mobile, you are stuck with them at least here.

How also Google differentiates btw carrier phones and non carrier phones remains to be seen...




Other phones can run Android
By Lotus SE on 4/2/2009 2:57:25 PM , Rating: 2
I have it on my HTC Touch (Sprint), thanks to some people who made a version that boots in Linux on that Windows Mobile 6.1 phone...




By shortylickens on 4/2/2009 10:41:11 PM , Rating: 2
Would it be possible to buy just the phone (Tiger Direct, Newegg) and use the Wifi to make phone calls, ignoring service entirely?

Are there apps available for VOIP for this thing?




Are you serious?
By Crusty on 4/2/09, Rating: -1
RE: Are you serious?
By Mojo the Monkey on 4/2/2009 1:50:29 PM , Rating: 5
Maybe you need an editing staff.
quote:
Get with it or nobody will take you guys serious.


--serious ly .


RE: Are you serious?
By dirtman16 on 4/2/2009 2:36:58 PM , Rating: 3
What is it with DailyTech posters expecting perfection in every article? If you don't like the quality of the writing, then don't bother visiting the site.

How would you like it if I came to your place of business and called you a loser every time you made a mistake? Give the guy a break. It's not as if your life was made worse by less than perfect writing.


RE: Are you serious?
By PhoenixKnight on 4/2/2009 3:20:01 PM , Rating: 1
When I was taking a writing class at a liberal arts college, if I turned a A paper with this many errors, I would be marked down to a C or a D. Do you honestly think that a professional journalist should have lower standards of writing than a college art student?


RE: Are you serious?
By nixoofta on 4/2/2009 5:32:08 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
When I was taking a writing class (,) at a liberal arts college, if I turned (in) a (should ba an) A paper with this many errors (,not necassary) I would be marked down to a C or a D. Do you honestly think that a professional journalist should have lower standards of writing than a college art student?




RE: Are you serious?
By bigjaicher on 4/2/2009 5:50:01 PM , Rating: 3
Actually, the first comma that you put in parentheses should not be there; it was fine the way it was. The other comma was actually necessary (not necassary) as well. ("Comma splices are a way to hell!!!" - Quote from a teacher I once knew)

No, they should not have lower standards of writing than a college art student. However, I consider Daily Tech to be more of a news blog and don't consider its writers as professional journalists. These "professional journalists" are quickly becoming extinct, if you hadn't already noticed.


RE: Are you serious?
By StevoLincolnite on 4/3/2009 5:44:00 AM , Rating: 2
sith si eht tenretni, enoyreve slleps sdrawkcab.

Seriously though, spelling errors aside, as long as the information is accurate I couldn't care less, it's not like it's an 8 year old preaching 1337 speak to the world.


RE: Are you serious?
By PhoenixKnight on 4/2/09, Rating: 0
RE: Are you serious?
By nixoofta on 4/2/2009 7:09:14 PM , Rating: 4
***note to self***

1. hire poofreader

2. be more serious... ly


RE: Are you serious?
By MamiyaOtaru on 4/4/2009 1:24:20 AM , Rating: 2
Derp! Hypocrite has an e


RE: Are you serious?
By Moishe on 4/2/2009 3:29:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Tethering is in for Google's Android OS -- just not for customers of T-Mobile, the only carrier with to carry an Android phone


Read this. "The only carrier with to carry?" Are you kidding me?

Sure sometimes grammar nazis are too picky, especially when it's about the lolzrz txting speak in comments, but this is a new article and this kind of "Engrish" has no business. All it takes is proof reading. Sorry but we are right.


RE: Are you serious?
By Moishe on 4/2/2009 3:34:07 PM , Rating: 2
Speaking of proofreading... :) This kind of Engrish has no business being in a news article.


RE: Are you serious?
By Kougar on 4/2/2009 4:05:09 PM , Rating: 2
That's precisely why I do read other sites. I only follow DT to fill in the missing pieces. I used to read DT first, but this is more than just typos, often entire sentences are meaningless or not understandable because someone spliced two separate thoughts together and didn't actually go back to fix it.

Nobody should expect perfection. I DO expect the site to at least read like someone read the article first before they published it. I'm not exaggerating when I say the kinds of articles DT cranks out come across as never being proofed. For those readers unlucky enough to catch an article that just went live, the errors are grievous and annoying to deal with. DT only begins fixing errors after the article goes live as I've watched a few articles steadily be tweaked to read properly.

Even one minute spent with a spellchecking program would make a noticeable difference in article quality here.


RE: Are you serious?
By StevoLincolnite on 4/3/2009 5:48:21 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Even one minute spent with a spellchecking program would make a noticeable difference in article quality here.


Usually the spelling is spot on, it's the grammar that's out of whack, or it's the wrong word used in place of another.

I do agree on the aforementioned 2 separate thoughts spliced together, but you can usually extrapolate the gist of the story anyhow.


RE: Are you serious?
By Kougar on 4/3/2009 1:31:02 PM , Rating: 2
Thankfully, yes. But it gets annoying when you have to do it multiple times in just one article! And yes, I fully agree with your points.

The splicing of two separate thoughts into an unintelligible sentence makes the article feel rushed, that the author was focused solely on getting it done quickly rather than correctly. Using the wrong word in place of another only exacerbates this, to me DT articles often feel like they were typed up in just a few minutes.

And I mentioned spellchecking because there have been articles published where spaces crept into the middle of words that any spellchecker would have found.

When I am actually browsing this site I tend to do so frequently, which means I often find articles just as they go live and is when there are the highest amount of errors in them.


RE: Are you serious?
By omnicronx on 4/2/2009 5:08:17 PM , Rating: 2
Perhaps some of us like reading DT and do not want it to lose its credibility?
quote:
How would you like it if I came to your place of business and called you a loser every time you made a mistake? Give the guy a break. It's not as if your life was made worse by less than perfect writing.
You wouldn't have your job for too long if you were always making mistakes.


RE: Are you serious?
By PrinceGaz on 4/3/2009 1:10:22 AM , Rating: 2
That's my view. I getting an interesting mix of news and opinion here, but the quality of the news is usually seriously compromised by it being a chopped up and marginally rewritten version of the original. The chopping-up and re-wording seems to be done almost randomly meaning that whilst the person who posts it understands what he has published (because he'd already read and understood the original); people reading the version posted here first are all too likely to read bits of it incorrectly because of how it has been changed and put back together in a way which doesn't work quite right.

There really needs to be someone just reading through and fixing obvious spelling and grammatical errors in news posts on DT. I assume all the regular editors are at least competent with the English language, so any one of them could be required to make any fixes needed and give the go ahead on any other editor's post first. It does have to be somebody else who checks for the errors though; it's pointless to attempt to do so yourself without wasting a *lot* of time (because you subconciously already know what anything you wrote means and are likely not even to see the errors in it, unless checked very slowly, one word at a time), whereas errors in other people's posts will often be immediately obvious.

I'm not asking for perfection here. It just seems a shame that a news-site which is related to AT has such shoddy standards on the quality of its posts, whereas most major reviews and news on AT itself are generally to a very high standard.

Even if it means delaying the news on DT by a few hours on average, that would be better than having many items which leave the reader wondering whether the editor who posted it even bothered to do the most rudimentary of checks on what they written before hitting the 'Send' button.


RE: Are you serious?
By PrinceGaz on 4/3/2009 1:14:27 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, I've just noticed a major grammatical error near the very start of my own post here, but I don't have an edit function to fix something sent even less than ten minutes ago.


RE: Are you serious?
By dirtman16 on 4/2/2009 2:41:12 PM , Rating: 2
Speaking of errors, I meant to reply to the OP. Sorry about that.


RE: Are you serious?
By yacoub on 4/3/2009 7:48:32 AM , Rating: 2
He's not the one writing the article, so no.


RE: Are you serious?
By acase on 4/2/2009 2:00:19 PM , Rating: 2
You obviously aren't familiar with every article by Mick, whom they must just keep on staff for the quantity of articles he writes; certainly not the quality.


RE: Are you serious?
By wordsworm on 4/2/2009 4:44:04 PM , Rating: 1
I was sad to see Kubricki go. I thought he was the best out of the lot of them. Asher, on the other hand, was the worst. So, it was nice to seem him go. He had a basic set of articles: global warming isn't happening. Global warming is good. Man isn't causing global warming. He said whatever it took to make him feel better about driving a gas guzzler and other irresponsible environmental behavior, and there is a large contingency of readers *cough* Republicans *cough* here who look up to him for it. Meanwhile, he made DT into the laughing stock of the Internet for all but the right-wing nuts. http://climaterealists.com/news.php?tid=100

I liked Mick's articles, though they're not as far fetched and entertaining as they used to be.


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