quote: Google wants direct control of the software on Nexus devices with no carrier intervention. That alone means Google can't sell an LTE device, as there's simply no access to LTE networks without working with carriers in one way or another: Verizon and Sprint's LTE networks still require compatibility with their 3G CDMA systems, and there's essentially no such thing as an unlocked CDMA device. AT&T's infant LTE network runs on different frequencies than other LTE networks around the world, so Google would have to build a custom phone for just 77 markets in the US. Doing that without AT&T's financial assistance makes little sense.
quote: Not sure why you think I needed to be told it.
quote: Jeez dude, you need to STFU.
quote: If you want a phone with those specs get teh Optumus G that it is desingned from.
quote: Also, since you are implementing your spin engine, dont forget. What was the same of that one phone manufacturer? I cant remember, but they were the last one to make a 4G phone. As a matter of fact they just finally released thier 4G phone a few weeks ago... In late 2012. Oh yeah. I remember now. It was Apple. LOL.
quote: I did slight it, because there was no LTE... But this is where you lose reality and your freakish fanboy flag flies high. I am not defending this phone. I will not buy it and I would not recommend it to anyone. I dont care what Google does, I care what products are available and this is not on my list. You, who associates themselves so closely with a company would think Google matters to me, but it doesnt.
quote: What IS good about the ANdroid platform it it has products to suit all needs. Where Apple had NO 4G phone until a few weeks ago, there were dozens avaliable on Android ranging from low end to high end and every step in between.
quote: What is funny is your attempt to rub it in and make it as if its an issue. The only way this could be an issue is if Android somehow stopped support 4G phones. this is a budget phone on a budget carrier, you want cheap, there it is. I dont.
quote: Again, if you do want a phone with these specs and 4G, the Optimus G is there. What exactly are you trying to prove, because your point is lost again.
quote: All insults and "fanboy" accusations aside, you have spent days and days here listing argument after argument of how the iPhone and IOS is so superior to Android. Were you fullashit then or are you fullashit now?
quote: No, you're trolling and you know it.
quote: My point was Apple had no 4G, Google has had it for over 2 years. I was merely pointing out the flaw in your argument, but i see now, you were just trying to get a rise.
quote: Yes... But I have honestly never bought a phone (or any elsctronic for that matter) based on a future upgrade. I buy it if it has the features I want now, not next year. Next year I will be on to a new phone anyhow, regardless of what OS upgrade comes.
quote: How ironic. The iPhone 4S came out over a year ago and you slated it for not having LTE. Now your precious Android creator releases a phone in NOVEMBER 2012 with no LTE support, and you're defending it.
quote: So you feel the need to defend and/or slam Android, and pointlessly try to compare a Nexus device with Apple's flagship Halo phone...
quote: I'm asking for people who criticised a lack of LTE previously to be consistent, nothing more, nothing less.
quote: No, it isnt. "Nexus" indicates its a Google branded phone, there are other Nexus models. This one is obviously low end.
quote: The Nexus 4: Google's flagship phone lands November 13th for $299
quote: Right now, Samsung, HTC, and MOto all have NExus models on the way. There will be 4 separate Nexus models out... Even rumours of a Sony one.
quote: Now you are arguing with reclaimer here something that you are already aware of above.
quote: I think I am getting it... You really just like to argue. You are more about the argument itself than the point of view you are taking arent you?
quote: And it's got the fastest CPU (I believe) of any phone to date, so it's most definitely not low end, and the screen quality is right up there. In fact it's essentially the Optimus G. To call it low end is a massive, massive stretch.
quote: Right now, Samsung, HTC, and MOto all have NExus models on the way. There will be 4 separate Nexus models out... Even rumours of a Sony one.So? That means nothing.
quote: It's just obvious that this Nexus 4 is intended to be a top of the line phone
quote: So? That means nothing.
quote: Google could have negotiated with carriers just like every other manufacturer did.
quote: And really, if you honestly think I am to be liked by morons like you, you're sadly mistaken. I aim to be right, which I always achieve.
quote: A "flagship" phone that comes unlocked, carrier free, without a contract? Dude, there's no such animal. Think about it. This is why it doesn't have LTE! How many times do we have to tell you?
quote: Wait wait, you have criticized Google before for not "taking control" of Android from the carriers. Well now they have with the "Nexus" line. So you criticize them for that? You can't have your cake and eat it too.
quote: I don't care about LTE.
quote: Can't you? It seems to me that Apple can. They get control of the carriers AND have LTE. Silly boy....
quote: My point is that YOU fanboys who slated the 4S should have a shred of intelligence and be consistent about what you criticise.
quote: Then shut the fuck up? Go back in time, and shut the fuck up and eliminate the 30 posts about something you "don't care about" while you're at it.
quote: AGain, this is a low end phone with a high end CPU and screen...
quote: Gee I wonder if theres a device with a removable battery, SD slot and maybe even LTE I can pay some more for.
quote: Not really. If I want LTE I'll get a Galaxy S3 or iPhone 5 for $300 more.
quote: Given the fact that in the majority of my posts I mention price in some form or another I'm fairly confident anyone else looking at our posting history will see exactly where I'm coming from.
quote: The very crux of this discussion revolved around LTE not being present. I simply pointed out that there is a significant price difference between the phone where it is missing and the phones where it isn't - admittedly they were the only ones I could think of. I'm sorry if it's too much of a stretch for you to figure out I'm discussing cost here but there's not much I can do about that. Like I said I'm pretty confident others will see it that way.
quote: It is possible to speak about both aspects and fortunately you do not get to decide which ones are correct or not.
quote: Gee I wonder if theres a device with a removable battery, SD slot and maybe even LTE I can pay some more for.Sorry but this does absolutely NOTHING, at all, to defend the phone in question.
quote: As per your car analogy if someone came to me and said car X takes longer than 3.6 seconds I'm saying there are alternatives that are quicker - note this is nothing to do with 'my' car as in this instance I don't have one.
quote: Where I am defending the phone is on its price and this is emphasised in most posts I make.
quote: That's gotta be embarrassing for Android fans.
quote: And yes I do the testing because I'm the most intelligent.
quote: You are most certainly a troll, and this seals the deal. Why anyone would bother responding to you after this comment is beyond me.
quote: What is really embarrassing is the douchebag company that just now came out with it 2 years AFTER everyone else. I won't mention any names but it is your beloved company. Oh wait, they failed to implement NFC on the iPhone 5 in favor of developing their own version of it just to differentiate themselves from the masses as per usual.
quote: to me the lack of LTE doesn't bother me, since i don't even have a data plan. the non-removable battery is fine too, as long as there's a way to hard reset the phone, since i like to use custom roms. the only time i open my galaxy nexus is when i royally screw something up, and have to do a hard reset.
quote: Uhh two years ago or last year if you wanted an Apple phone with LTE, what could you do?
quote: Oh well, I guess when I'm due for a new phone I will have to buy a non nexus phone and use a custom rom to put it back to pure android.
quote: and then want to charge $100 to go from 16GB to 32GB.
quote: People. Stop your dam whining.
quote: I know you would all love having companies give you their products for free, but you need to wake up and be realistic in your expectations
quote: That makes sense to you to be angry about that?