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Google reportedly has plans to launch a web-based music sale service that will rival Apple's iTunes.  (Source: Google via TechCrunch)

The new service will reportedly stream music from your PC, over the internet to Android handsets.  (Source: Sprint)
There's a storm brewing -- Google Music is incoming and iTunes must brace itself for the impact

In the world of online music, iTunes has long reigned supreme.  It enjoys such a dominant position that it is currently the subject of a U.S. Federal Trade Commission inquiry investigating whether it abused smaller competitors like Amazon.com.

Apple's days as the only big player on the market may be numbered, though.  At Google's I/O conference last month, the company previewed a web-based service for developers.  And
TechCrunch two weeks ago discovered a "Google Music" logo hosted by the company.  Now CNET has joined the buzz, citing numerous industry sources as saying a launch of Google Music could come as soon as the fall.

Google enjoys one critical advantage that could allow its rebel service to ultimately crush Apple's music empire.  That advantage is search.

Close to a billion users visit Google every day, many of them searching for bands, songs, and album titles.  By tying these searches to subscription-based streaming services and web-based digital downloads akin to iTunes, many music executives believe that Google may promise more sales than Apple.

Its rivals have tried to keep Google out of the music business.  After Lala and iLike teamed with Google to offer streaming music with searches, Apple snatched up Lala and Myspace acquired iLike and both companies shut down the streaming.

The decision by Google to launch its own service is like a dream come true for music labels.  They are reportedly fed up with Apple, which currently sells over one quarter of the 
total music sold (digital or otherwise).  However, the current competition -- Amazon.com and Myspace Music -- lack the sales to pose a serious threat, which means that Apple gets to dictate whatever terms it wants to the labels.  That's a situation that they're not very satisfied with.

Zahavah Levine, YouTube's general counsel who previously worked with RealNetworks' Rhapsody music subscription service, is reportedly working to cook up the new service.  YouTube has already enjoyed success in the music business thanks to its plethora of music videos.

Google's new service reportedly will have many unique features.  Among them will be the ability to stream music from a library on your PC to your Android smartphone.  Google picked up a company called Simplify that developed this technology.  Google's service is also reportedly going to be cloud based -- available exclusively as a web application.  While Apple is also reportedly working on a cloud version of iTunes, Google reportedly wants to beat Cupertino to the punch.



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Here's hoping....
By Smartless on 6/15/10, Rating: 0
RE: Here's hoping....
By muhahaaha on 6/15/2010 3:43:35 PM , Rating: 4
i agree with choice, and that's something you don't have with Apple.

But please, 2 to 3 years? Google is pissed with Apple and for good reason. Android is rapidly maturing and this is inevitable. Apple's gadget and toy niche is starting to erode, and they are going to be kicked hard. Dump your stock now, and remember that I told you so.


RE: Here's hoping....
By reader1 on 6/15/10, Rating: -1
RE: Here's hoping....
By daniyarm on 6/15/2010 6:18:00 PM , Rating: 5
I am sorry, could you please explain how you went from enforcing piracy laws to closed OS? These apps copied a game without a license and Google was asked to removed them. If these games were original Google would have absolutely no problem with leaving them in the app store.
Anti-piracy does not mean closed web. Based on your idea, Somali pirates should be considered legit businessmen.


RE: Here's hoping....
By themaster08 on 6/15/2010 7:17:06 PM , Rating: 5
Precisely. This isn't the first time he's pasted that link either. He still has no more links to offer that support his ridiculous claims.

Open platforms still have to abide by laws as well. Reader1 is deluded beyond belief. He seems to labour under the sad misapprehension that open platforms are detrimental to society.

He obviously can't fathom the importance of open platforms beyond illiterate consumer level. He's a one track record spouting the same crap and getting his usual rating of -1.

His motives are based on an obsession with closed platforms and money. Concepts such as user freedom, user choice and business ethics are alien to him, and believes that money is the single most important aspect.

The only redeeming factor is that he bring some comedic relief to these articles with his out-of-this-world claims. But even those are just as annoying as they are humourous.


RE: Here's hoping....
By muhahaaha on 6/15/2010 8:06:51 PM , Rating: 1
+1

you hit the nail right on the iHead.

I wouldn't be surprised if Perks is really Steve Jobs.

I'd bet money that Jobs personally sneaks around Daily Tech under a bogus user-name to see what the informed community thinks about his iCrap and to incite the apple fanbois into a rage.


RE: Here's hoping....
By muhahaaha on 6/15/2010 8:20:53 PM , Rating: 2
Someone needs to do some packet sniffing and see which Anand/DT users are having packets originating from Cupertino. That would be a cool thing to try.

But they'd probably be going an anonymous proxy... damn.

Well I bet there's at least a handful of readers that can find a way to negate that ...


RE: Here's hoping....
By chedrz on 6/15/2010 7:13:46 PM , Rating: 1
Let me get this straight. By removing look-alikes that might be violating trademarks and could be the source of legal issues, Google is becoming more closed? It sounds to me like they're just covering their own hind parts.

Besides, there's a difference between removing legally questionable content and blocking anything that one person/company deems unworthy of being on a certain device. Apple is all about an image, and if you're willing to buy into that image, well... so be it.


RE: Here's hoping....
By TheDoc9 on 6/15/2010 4:26:04 PM , Rating: 2
Dumping apple stock is the most important thing people can do right now for those that could afford it in the first place.

It's overvalued and the competition is heating up as far as product offerings. The only thing driving apple stock right now is hype and manipulation. The stock is due for a correction. Also I have a feeling this was Steve's last iphone conference, he could go for one more year but as soon as he leaves the party is over.


RE: Here's hoping....
By muhahaaha on 6/15/2010 7:47:28 PM , Rating: 1
The thing about Apple is that we tech informed people know they are pushing snake oil.

But the average Joe sees the fancy, cute commercials and thinks OMG WOW iNeed!!!!!

Microsoft could easily trash Apple, but they have a vested interest in them (Without a competitor, they are a Monopoly). They funneled a lot of money into Apple to keep them alive some years back.

I think Google has a real hatred for Apple and their closed vertical lock in crap, and how they are pressuring the market.

Google will be the company that finally spills the beans on them and dispel once and for all the "reality distortion field". Jobs knows he's in trouble.

Mark my words, Apple is in imminent danger and will pay for their abuse.


RE: Here's hoping....
By muhahaaha on 6/15/2010 8:26:33 PM , Rating: 3
I can neither confirm or deny that I work at Google.


RE: Here's hoping....
By MGSsancho on 6/16/2010 2:17:16 AM , Rating: 2
I don't think Anand will let us have access to his rack so we can put a packet sniffer on the WAN connection.. err I meant his server rack..


RE: Here's hoping....
By muhahaaha on 6/16/2010 10:47:15 AM , Rating: 2
he likes Apple anyway, though I can't understand why


RE: Here's hoping....
By daveinternets on 6/15/2010 3:56:35 PM , Rating: 5
I just hope that this will be a place where I can buy the music the artists intended, and not the censored crap iTunes sells.


RE: Here's hoping....
By Quadrillity on 6/15/2010 4:10:42 PM , Rating: 5
I would also like to see the ability to download uncompressed or very high fidelity music instead of 5MB garbage. Some of us out there actually enjoy music, and have thousands of dollars tied up in audio equipment to prove it.


RE: Here's hoping....
By LRonaldHubbs on 6/15/2010 5:24:45 PM , Rating: 2
Even without spending thousands of dollars, the difference between FLAC and MP3 is audible with a $100 set of headphones. This is the sole reason I don't purchase music downloads. Instead I buy and rip CDs, which is actually cheaper as well if you buy them used. A used CD in 'like new' condition through Amazon 3rd parties is usually around $5 including shipping. The only catch is you have to wait a week to get it.


RE: Here's hoping....
By radializer on 6/15/2010 8:33:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
A used CD in 'like new' condition through Amazon 3rd parties is usually around $5 including shipping. The only catch is you have to wait a week to get it.


Actually, there's more of a catch.

There aren't many CDs where I want every single song - and this number is dwindling quite fast with the current crop of what-passes-for-music. Downloads allow a la carte purchasing - something that cannot be done with your method.

OF course, the best solution is someone providing partially and fully-lossless downloads -- even if they are available for a higher price, at least the option to purchase would exist.

NIN did this from their website for the "Ghosts I-IV" and "The Slip" albums - and they provided 36 songs encoded at 320kbps MP3 as well as FLAC versions for $5 only!

I'm not holding my breath for a widespread adoption of such distribution schemes in the future though ...


RE: Here's hoping....
By LRonaldHubbs on 6/16/2010 7:54:00 AM , Rating: 3
I agree, lossless single-song downloads are the best solution, and that's where the market needs to move. It doesn't really affect me though because all the artists I listen to produce solid albums. In fact, it's rare that I listen to any kind of random or mixed playlist; I always just listen through entire albums.


RE: Here's hoping....
By Exodite on 6/16/2010 4:33:49 AM , Rating: 2
Indeed, it's ridiculous that the TV series I watch in digital copy have higher quality audio tracks embedded than most of the actual music that can be purchased.

Once upon a time space mattered and highly compressed mp3 made sense. Today however I wouldn't mind is music took ten times the space as long as I'd get original quality.


RE: Here's hoping....
By RivuxGamma on 6/15/2010 4:08:54 PM , Rating: 2
That's assuming that Google is just now starting its online music service. Even so, I think that Google could get it done faster. I'd be willing to bet that they have something that's already in the works.


No Microsoft Monopoly
By Mitch101 on 6/15/2010 3:44:15 PM , Rating: 2
Can we finally say that Microsoft is not the Monopoly some like to claim it is? This may seem off topic but with many areas Microsoft doesn't have clear dominance can we finally end the Monopoly name calling?

iPhone vs Droid (Cant include mobile 7 until its released)
iTunes vs Everyone else (Zune market share is small)
Apple TV vs Media Tanks vs Hulu vs Direct TV (Media center but can we really include that?)
Google Apps vs Microsoft Office vs Open Office.
Google vs Yahoo vs Bing (Bing having the smallest market share)
iPod/iphone vs Nintendo DS vs PSP (cant include zune here)
Windows vs OSX vs Linux vs (soon Chrome)
GMail vs Hotmail vs Yahoo Mail etc.
Wii vs XBox 360 vs PS3
iPad vs ChiPad (Chinese knockoffs) vs Droid Tablets. (Win CE is not a tablet competitor)

Anyone still think Microsoft is a monopoly? The only war they are winning is Windows and XBox 360 because they sell more games than the other consoles.




RE: No Microsoft Monopoly
By Mitch101 on 6/15/2010 3:48:02 PM , Rating: 2
Blackberry vs Good vs iPhone vs Droid (This is corporate e-mail)

Should add Microsoft office is winning also but there are good competitors.


RE: No Microsoft Monopoly
By reader1 on 6/15/10, Rating: -1
RE: No Microsoft Monopoly
By themaster08 on 6/15/2010 4:55:50 PM , Rating: 5
You have a monopoly in -1 ratings.


RE: No Microsoft Monopoly
By muhahaaha on 6/15/2010 8:28:09 PM , Rating: 2
and a monopoly in ignorance and bs


RE: No Microsoft Monopoly
By Pirks on 6/15/2010 10:59:01 PM , Rating: 5
I call bullshit! We have duopoly here, me and him. Suck it down lama :P


RE: No Microsoft Monopoly
By themaster08 on 6/16/2010 5:05:30 AM , Rating: 2
But your overall rating isn't in the minuses ;).

Therefore reader1 takes the cake!


RE: No Microsoft Monopoly
By theapparition on 6/16/2010 8:55:06 AM , Rating: 2
He out-Pirk'd you.

Maybe you can try harder and drop another Lexus analogy.


RE: No Microsoft Monopoly
By gcor on 6/16/2010 6:36:08 AM , Rating: 2
But the MS market share in OS in SOOOOOOOOOO small. How can you say that?


Google music???
By Shadowmaster625 on 6/15/2010 3:45:45 PM , Rating: 5
We've had google music for 15 years. All you do is google the music you want, and then download it. lol




RE: Google music???
By CrazyBernie on 6/16/2010 3:24:24 AM , Rating: 2
Not to mention the unbeatable selection and, er, prices.


Really, truly? Can you cite your source?
By gcor on 6/16/2010 6:42:00 AM , Rating: 2
"They are reportedly fed up with Apple, which currently sells over one quarter of the total music sold (digital or otherwise)."

I'm not saying it ain't so, but I would have thought the music industry would love someone who sold 1/4 of their product.

Any chance you could say who was reporting this and perhaps linking to it? (I'm just interested)




RE: Really, truly? Can you cite your source?
By theapparition on 6/16/2010 9:01:18 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I'm not saying it ain't so, but I would have thought the music industry would love someone who sold 1/4 of their product.

Let's say you are a business, and your largest reseller sells 50% of your product. A full half!!! Sounds like a great deal, right?

Now consider that reseller demands a larger share of profits (even at your loss), forces demands, and inhibits your access to end customers.

Not looking so good now, is it.


By gcor on 6/16/2010 9:14:17 AM , Rating: 2
Is that the case is it? Apple take a bigger margin than retailers??? I'm surprised. Given the iStore doesn't have very significant retail space and staff costs, I would have thought Apple could give a significantly higher margin to the music companies than retailers could.

And they demand the Big Six sell at a loss??? I wouldn't have thought the Big Six would do that, given that they have most of their product going out via other channels. Perhaps they choose to accept a short term loss for a long term gain, however, the Big Six aren't known to be hugely in favor of moving from their existing business model, so I don't realy buy that either

Do you have any info to back up that Apple provide smaller revenues than the people who sell the other 75%? What about forcing the Big Six to sell at a loss?


I dunno
By amanojaku on 6/15/2010 3:57:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Google enjoys one critical advantage that could allow its rebel service to ultimately crush Apple's music empire. That advantage is search.
I don't think "search" is all that important, and I'm sure iTunes has its own (if rudimentary) search features that can be enhanced. I think what's missing in these online content stores is cross-platform compatibility.

1) I can buy any TV and connect it to any antenna, cable box, DVD/Blu-Ray player, etc...
2) I can buy any computer and connect it to the Internet
3) I can buy any <insert multimedia device> and connect it to any <insert content medium>

EXCEPT for portable digital media players. Google Music will have a hard fight if it requires Android devices. Seriously, you should be able to hook it up to Android, iStuff, and Zunes, among others. The same is true for iTunes and the Zune Marketplace. Vendor lock-in sucks.




RE: I dunno
By crimson117 on 6/15/2010 4:08:51 PM , Rating: 2
They'll probably release an iOS app, if Apple approves it, or a quicktime streaming (iPhone Safari compatible) web page version of their service.


Sounds like abuse of their monopoly power
By theprofessor on 6/15/2010 4:30:55 PM , Rating: 2
If Google does indeed use searches in their search engine to sell music, this would be abusing their monopoly power in search. If I was Microsoft, I would sue so that Zune tracks are sold along side Google music tracks. In the EU, I would sue to have a balloting system, so that the user could chose which music store they see and can buy from when they do a music search on Google.




By Xavi3n on 6/15/2010 11:25:57 PM , Rating: 2
that's ironically actually a good idea even though you were being sarcastic.

Not a balloting system though, something similar to firefox's search addon system.


LOSSLESS
By plonk420 on 6/15/2010 6:11:05 PM , Rating: 2
yes, i will email google this request, too, but

PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SELL LOSSLESS

i will pay a premium, but it would be appreciated if it's not as painful as Beatport's $1/track "bandwidth and storage" premium.




RE: LOSSLESS
By CrazyBernie on 6/16/2010 3:22:32 AM , Rating: 2
Did somebody say "go topless?"


Here we go again...
By msheredy on 6/15/2010 7:21:46 PM , Rating: 2
Many have tried and many have failed...




RE: Here we go again...
By Xavi3n on 6/15/2010 11:27:18 PM , Rating: 2
This is google though, they have broken Apple's stranglehold on a market before, which gives me more hope than previous failures.


That'd be great, but...
By cubdukat on 6/16/2010 1:37:47 AM , Rating: 2
...when is someone going to take on Apple for their making the iPod unable to sync with any other apparatus besides iTunes? Or Microsoft for making the Zune only work with Zune Marketplace?




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