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The city of Mountain View now had free wireless Internet access from Google

Google today launched free citywide wireless Internet access for its hometown of Mountain View, California.  The Internet service is not ad supported and the network covers the entire 12-square-miles of Mountain View.  The download and upload speeds reportedly run about 1 megabit per second, according to testing done by Google.  The 72,000 person population will have 380 access points spread throughout the city -- Mountain View has been anxiously awaiting the wireless network for a while.  Google hopes that the connection will be fast enough for some residents to consider dropping their cable or DSL Internet service so that they can rely specifically on Google's wireless service. 

The service was expected to launch sometime in September, but Google finished final tests ahead of time with satisfactory results.  Around 1,000 Mountain View residents originally tested the service.  The company will benefit because it sees a spike in usage with its advertising services at locations where broadband becomes more prevalent.

Google and Earthlink have teamed up to try and launch free citywide municipal wireless Internet for the city of San Francisco, which is a much larger project compared to Mountain View.  The Internet service in San Francisco will have two tiers:  Google will offer a free service that would be capped at 300 kbps with ads and a paid subscription service with no ads from Earthlink would have speeds over 1 mbps.  Google does not have plans to launch a wireless Internet service in any other cities at the moment.



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Anonymous?
By gerf on 8/16/2006 2:06:11 PM , Rating: 2
Will people be completely anonymous? If someone P2P's RIAA/MPAA copyrighted movies/music, does google now get a letter/threat from the RIAA/MPAA?




RE: Anonymous?
By nismotigerwvu on 8/16/2006 2:09:05 PM , Rating: 2
I couldn't see them being any worse off than say, Comcast or Verizon in that case...


RE: Anonymous?
By kamel5547 on 8/16/2006 2:13:14 PM , Rating: 2
Well people can be identified by MAC address and general vincinity they log in from... its no different from Starbucks access points really. I wonder if google will force you to ahve some type of free account where you provide information in order to use the service...


RE: Anonymous?
By Hare on 8/16/2006 3:11:06 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Well people can be identified by MAC address and general vincinity they log in from..
There is no way anyone can be indentified via the MAC address. It can be changed in a second and you don't submit any personal information with your MAC address. (Unless you have to subscribe to the service with your personal details and MAC-address, which is not really common specially with free services like this).


RE: Anonymous?
By ThisSpaceForRent on 8/18/2006 8:23:34 AM , Rating: 2
This is very true. When I got my MSI mother board it had no MAC address. So I had to define my MAC address, provided with the board, through Windows hehe.


RE: Anonymous?
By rcc on 8/16/2006 2:30:29 PM , Rating: 2
Front the article.

" Web surfers using the Google service will have to log on, but once they're connected they will be able to sign off without losing access, Sacca said. The network is "very naive," so it won't track people's online activities when they aren't on a Google site, Sacca said."

However, I'm sure they'll be able to tell inquiring agencies who was connected to what port from when to when.


RE: Anonymous?
By TomZ on 8/16/2006 2:59:51 PM , Rating: 2
Yea, you mean just like any other ISP, right?

Seems like folks may be trying to either attribute sinister motives to Google, or to hold them to some different standard than every other ISP is held to.


RE: Anonymous?
By rcc on 8/16/2006 3:07:20 PM , Rating: 2
Any company with self preservation instincts is going to be able to cover themselves when the black vans arrive and ask "why were you trying to hack the DoD computers at xyz".

Personally, I'd expect anyone that grants me access to information, systems, etc. to protect themselves by being able to identify me. Information beyond that is another issue.


RE: Anonymous?
By TomZ on 8/16/2006 3:09:09 PM , Rating: 2
I couldn't agree more.


Can you legally have an anonymous ISP?
By therealnickdanger on 8/16/2006 3:02:26 PM , Rating: 2
I would be suprised in these days of child-pr0n and terrorist chat rooms if ISPs are even allowed to allow completely anonymous web activity.




By therealnickdanger on 8/16/2006 3:03:16 PM , Rating: 2
EDIT: I meant to say "an anonymous account on an ISP".


RE: Can you legally have an anonymous ISP?
By TomZ on 8/16/2006 3:08:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I would be suprised in these days of child-pr0n and terrorist chat rooms if ISPs are even allowed to allow completely anonymous web activity.

Since there is really no legitimate business reason for an ISP to allow perfectly anonymous access to the Internet, I would think that an ISP that takes steps to do this would be guilty of aiding and abetting almost certain criminal use of the Internet through their service.


By epsilonparadox on 8/16/2006 3:56:03 PM , Rating: 2
i.e Darknet


Whats the deal with free, adless internet?
By Loser on 8/16/2006 4:43:09 PM , Rating: 2
Where is the profit coming from? If there are no ads, am i missing something?




RE: Whats the deal with free, adless internet?
By TomZ on 8/16/2006 5:08:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Where is the profit coming from? If there are no ads, am i missing something?


From the linked article:

Google invested about $1 million to build the Mountain View network and expects to have to spend far less than that each year to keep it running. The financial commitment represents a pittance for Google, which has nearly $10 billion in cash.

I would guess the incentive for google is just goodwill.


RE: Whats the deal with free, adless internet?
By Loser on 8/17/2006 4:57:32 PM , Rating: 2
then it would make more sense to buy food etc.


Access Point?
By timmiser on 8/17/2006 3:25:27 AM , Rating: 1
"The 72,000 person population will have 380 access points spread throughout the city "

What do they mean by an "access point"? If it is wireless, wouldn't there be no need for an access point?




RE: Access Point?
By TomZ on 8/17/2006 12:26:18 PM , Rating: 1
Not sure what you mean - the term "access point" typically refers to the radio device that converts between the wired network connection and the wireless network. As long as your computer is in range of any one of the access points, you can get network connectivity.


RE: Access Point?
By TomZ on 8/17/06, Rating: 0
RE: Access Point?
By timmiser on 8/19/2006 2:36:38 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks TomZ for the clarification.

I don't understand why someone(s) have voted down your message rating for your informative post??


not fair.
By Havocgm on 8/16/2006 2:48:07 PM , Rating: 2
see above...




Grr
By DLeRium on 8/16/2006 5:20:51 PM , Rating: 2
Boo, I used to work right across from Google in Mtn View. Hell, I live less than 10 min away. Please expand the wireless access =)




Grr
By DLeRium on 8/16/2006 5:20:51 PM , Rating: 1
Boo, I used to work right across from Google in Mtn View. Hell, I live less than 10 min away. Please expand the wireless access =)




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