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Google Caffeine is ready to energize Google's search and help it overcome Microsoft new Bing algorithm
Forget Bing, says Google, we've got your fix

Google, owner of about two-thirds of the online search market, is betting that it has just the fix you need.  Amid concerns that its losing its edge over Microsoft's popular new Bing search engine/algorithm, which will soon be powering second place competitor Yahoo's search, Google has taken a step to silence its critics by unveiling a promising successor to its current search algorithm.

Dubbed Caffeine, the new algorithm looks to give Google a much-needed jolt by delivering more results, and better results.

Indeed a quick inspection seems to indicate that the site is ready to deliver on this promise.  A quick search for "DailyTech global warming" yields about 30,700 results in the new engine, versus a mere 23,100 in the current engine.  The returned content also appears to be better in many cases.  Returning to the previous example, the new site also returns a total of four pertinent DailyTech articles as its first four results, compared to only two returned by the current engine.

On Google's blog about the site the a user named Holly adds, "I've noticed more Twitter pages in the results with this version of Google. Quite like having that - makes it easier to find people and companies."

Another user comments, "Wow, the index is way more pertinent, less spam, more good Web sites. I'm tracking a lot of searches and see huge improvement in the quality of results."

Still criticism is also cropping up.  Comments another user, "Nice idea but I can't find a lot of my site[.]"

And another user reports, "I'm tryig (sic) to access on my symbian phone, but the address redirects me to the same URL with a "/m" at the end and that show me a "403" error page. is this an issue with the the Opera browser installed on my phone? or this version is not compatible with mobile?"

The trial release of the new engine came as somewhat of a surprise.  Google had been known to be working on a new engine, but no release date had been previously known.  The news broke when Google engineers Sitaram Iyer and Matt Cutts posted a blog with a link to the new search.

They describe the new search engine, stating, "For the last several months, a large team of Googlers has been working on a secret project: a next-generation architecture for Google's web search. It's the first step in a process that will let us push the envelope on size, indexing speed, accuracy, comprehensiveness and other dimensions. The new infrastructure sits "under the hood" of Google's search engine, which means that most users won't notice a difference in search results. But web developers and power searchers might notice a few differences, so we're opening up a web developer preview to collect feedback."



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Number of search results
By chaos7 on 8/12/2009 1:02:35 PM , Rating: 5
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A quick search for "DailyTech global warming" yields about 30,700 results in the new engine, versus a mere 23,100 in the current engine.


Who actually cares about more returned results. If it isn't in the first pages of results, I doubt you will have any luck searching through the thousands of other results.




RE: Number of search results
By phatboye on 8/12/2009 1:16:18 PM , Rating: 5
If the engine is coded properly, the more results that it has indexed the more likely it is to find relevant, first page results.


RE: Number of search results
By MrDiSante on 8/12/2009 1:34:36 PM , Rating: 5
I'm not sure if it has more indexed or if they just changed their algorithm, regardless it play well into the ads.
quote:
6,000,000 results found... is not a result.

-Bing ad


RE: Number of search results
By das mod on 8/12/2009 1:57:13 PM , Rating: 3
Seems like the new algorithm only adds about 20,000+ results to ANY term you search for ....


RE: Number of search results
By GaryJohnson on 8/12/2009 1:18:44 PM , Rating: 1
More returned results means more specific results if you were to narrow your search.

If you were looking for one of those pages not returned by the current engine then you care.


RE: Number of search results
By 2bdetermine on 8/12/2009 2:27:05 PM , Rating: 4
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A quick search for "DailyTech global warming" yields about 30,700 results in the new engine, versus a mere 23,100 in the current engine.


Who actually have the time 2 go through ridiculous amount of useless results.


RE: Number of search results
By bhieb on 8/12/2009 2:31:03 PM , Rating: 2
Plus consistency matters. One of the reasons I've stayed with Google is that there are a lot of times that I don't know the page, but know I've searched for a specific term.

Scenario:

Remember that one page I went to the that one time that has cool stuff.

Can't remember how I got there.

Oh I googled "cool crap".

So I go to google and put in "cool crap" and within the
first few links I find it again because it is layed out and looks familiar.

Now I Bing "cool crap", and it may be at the bottom of the page, and definitely looks different. So it is harder to find that elusive page I went to that one time.


RE: Number of search results
By bhieb on 8/12/2009 2:33:26 PM , Rating: 3
So I sincerely hope that it does not screw up the existing result patterns. Hope this is not Google's NEW Coke...aka a fix where one is not needed.


RE: Number of search results
By Chocobollz on 8/13/2009 4:15:40 AM , Rating: 3
Who cares about the results being in the first page. The most important thing is, well.. the right KEYWORDS. Even Einstein can't give an answer if you ask him something like "lamp" when you actually search for "relativity theories".

:P


Wow
By jbartabas on 8/12/2009 1:12:48 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
A quick search for "DailyTech global warming" [...] returns a total of four pertinent DailyTech articles as its first four results.


Finding four pertinent articles about GW on Dailytech, that's not an efficient algorithm ... that's a miracle.




RE: Wow
By shucklak on 8/12/2009 1:18:24 PM , Rating: 2
BA-ZING!!!

Seriously though, you're completely right.


RE: Wow
By Spivonious on 8/12/2009 1:36:01 PM , Rating: 4
My favorite part is the suggested related search:

"michael asher daily tech"


RE: Wow
By Lord 666 on 8/12/2009 1:36:03 PM , Rating: 3
I bet Mick googles/bings/caffeine's himself at least once a week.


RE: Wow
By tastyratz on 8/12/2009 10:00:24 PM , Rating: 2
I heard he bings you on a nightly basis
OH DOUBLE ZING
(sorry I couldn't resist, I was baited by the first zing and compelled when you left yourself open)

Jbartabas deserves a 6 on his.


RE: Wow
By ipay on 8/19/2009 3:40:17 PM , Rating: 2
Someone call the burn ward, I'm detecting some major burnage!


Panic is good!
By Tegrat on 8/12/2009 2:14:42 PM , Rating: 2
I'm glad Google is a little concerned as of late. Hopefully things will go back to the good old days of google search and I will actually find technical documents instead of "Do you want to buy this?"




RE: Panic is good!
By rudy on 8/12/2009 4:32:22 PM , Rating: 2
I dont know I think the major problem with all search engines now is they try to weight things based on user based measures. Now that there are so many more average people on the internet and using google you can only expect they are pushing the results to "more twitter".

If caffein is better for me it is probably because they are taking out more of the weight of user popularity.


RE: Panic is good!
By ipay on 8/19/2009 3:49:25 PM , Rating: 2
Amen to that! When I first started using Google it was because the results that I wanted were on the first results page 90% of the time. Now I have to dig and dig, or specify very precise search terms, to find what I need.

A lot of crap has crept into Google's results over the years. If Caffeine can get rid of that crap, and deliver me the results I expect, great; otherwise I might have to try Bing.


Shopping still lacking
By Murst on 8/12/2009 2:29:29 PM , Rating: 5
Bing really did an impressive job WRT shopping in their search engine, and google really needs to catch up.

When searching for information about something, I find Google and Bing to be about equal ( and I switch from one to the other if I don't get the desired results on the first page ). But for shopping, I only use Bing now. Not to mention that their cash back program is sweet.




bing?
By otispunkmeyer on 8/12/2009 7:00:22 PM , Rating: 2
just been using it... it seems to be exactly like google, same kinda style with same function, just a little more bling....

i dont get it

its like a carbon copy with some glitz




RE: bing?
By otispunkmeyer on 8/12/2009 7:12:41 PM , Rating: 2
on a side note

wolfram alpha is friggin awesome


yup
By flashbacck on 8/12/2009 2:44:00 PM , Rating: 3
This is what I love about Dailytech. Their idea of news reporting is Googling themselves and reporting on what other users are commenting in a blog.




RE: yup
By johnsonx on 8/13/09, Rating: 0
So that's why
By eddieroolz on 8/12/2009 7:59:55 PM , Rating: 3
So that's why I've been seeing the "Google[Bot]" active on my forum for about a week...perhaps it's indexing the webpages.

But in all honesty, Bing's got my business. I'm done with Google.




Hardware?
By Fulvian on 8/13/2009 2:20:26 AM , Rating: 2
Excuse me, but why is this article in Hardware category?




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So what...
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