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Several popular Google services finally lose their beta tag

It may be difficult to believe, but Gmail and Google Apps are finally out of beta, indicating Google is getting serious about marketing its products to large businesses.

"More than 1.75 million companies around the world run their business on Google Apps, including Google," the official Google blog states.  "We've come to appreciate that the beta tag just doesn't fit for large enterprises that aren't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it's still in the trial phase.  So we've focused our efforts on reaching our high bar for taking products out of beta, and all the applications in the Apps suite have now met that mark."

Gmail users aren't going to notice a difference, but it's true that removing the beta tag may help Google convince companies to begin using paid versions of its software.  Google hopes to get Gmail, Docs, Calendar and other software it develops into the corporate workplace, charging companies for additional perks and benefits unavailable in the free versions.

Furthermore, removing the beta tag from some its services indicates their maturity and a stronger dedication towards the corporate workplace.

Joining Gmail and Google Apps, the Mountain View-based company also removed the beta tag for Google Calendar and Google Talk (enterprise and consumer); with many computer users previously wondering if the popular services would always be in beta.

Although Gmail and other services have continually had a beta tag since launch, they've been stable, reliable services for both home users and businesses for quite some time now.  It's unsure why the services remained in beta so long, with Google lacking a true set of policies or rules as to when software can be removed from beta.

Google continues to be well known for creating multiple services for its users, but then seemingly keeping all of its services in beta.  The company still has dozens of other services and programs that are still in beta, and it's obviously highly unlikely they'll all lose their beta tags in the future.

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Gota love those CIO's
By Lifted on 7/7/2009 2:45:33 PM , Rating: 1
large enterprises that aren't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it's still in the trial phase.

They'd rather spend hundreds of millions on crap software that doesn't have the word beta in it.

RE: Gota love those CIO's
By Mojo the Monkey on 7/7/2009 3:15:13 PM , Rating: 2
I wouldnt go so far as to call Outlook and Word/Excel "crap" software. Unlike some of their other under-delivering products, these have been stable and useful.

RE: Gota love those CIO's
By Lifted on 7/7/2009 3:50:49 PM , Rating: 1
I didn't mention any particular software, and Microsoft software is definitely not what I was referring to as crap.

RE: Gota love those CIO's
By inighthawki on 7/7/2009 3:59:42 PM , Rating: 2
The word beta indicates the software is not finished, and thus probably is missing features or has bugs. I don't know about you, but if i ran a large corporation, i wouldn't want to take my chances that something gets corrupted, doesn't work, or a feature doesn't exist at an inconvenient time. While chances may be slim, its exactly that, a chance. More specifically a small chance that this software could make you lose far more than the price of the final product.

Also not to mention, a lot of beta software doesn't allow for large corporate use, especially if a product, such as software, is distributed through it's use.

RE: Gota love those CIO's
By 67STANG on 7/8/2009 2:41:18 AM , Rating: 2
I wonder how long their OS will be in beta. You know... the OS they are going to announce on Wed. (7/8/2009).

You heard it here first.

RE: Gota love those CIO's
By bhieb on 7/7/09, Rating: 0
RE: Gota love those CIO's
By theapparition on 7/7/2009 6:19:42 PM , Rating: 2
I'd rather gouge my eyballs out with a rusty nail than be subjected to Lotus Notes again.

But that's just me.

RE: Gota love those CIO's
By Jedi2155 on 7/7/2009 9:10:10 PM , Rating: 2
Could you please gouge mines out for me...I think I've lost proper use of my limbs as my Company is still on Lotus Notes 6.5....the

RE: Gota love those CIO's
By sviola on 7/8/2009 9:56:52 AM , Rating: 2
Well, you should try lotus notes 8, much better (added multithreaded processes) and developed under eclipse.

RE: Gota love those CIO's
By theapparition on 7/7/2009 3:57:38 PM , Rating: 4
Just out of curiosity, I'd like to know what MS products you consider to be "under-delivering"?

<preemptive strike>
Vista is MS's best OS to date. Win7 (aka Vista v2) looks to be even better.
And if someone even mentions IE, they are getting smacked. First, IE is free. Second, c'mon people, it's just a browser, not a life choice.
</preemptive strike>

MS has achieved thier position for making quality products. While I don't think everything they churn out is the best, they generally have very competitive products.

Exchange and Outlook are top notch in business and Gmail will never surplant them. Corporations want security and ownership of thier data and that will be hard to overcome.

RE: Gota love those CIO's
By HrilL on 7/7/2009 11:28:35 PM , Rating: 2
The thing is MS is still used widely with gmail and the google apps.

At my work we have all of our email and calendars hosted with google. Some people use google docs to share files. But almost everyone that has a PC also uses outlook and we use the calendar sync app so that it works with outlook too. Our mac users use ical and imail and those work just fine with gmail as well.

It really makes managing our email accounts easy.

I've used exchange and outlook as well and I still think this is the best option as it actually can push emails out to mobiles and google just doesn't do that. imap is nice but its surely not active sync. Though I've read that google is working on getting active sync as well and once they do that then I don't see the advantage to exchange.

RE: Gota love those CIO's
By HrilL on 7/7/2009 11:33:55 PM , Rating: 2
Adding to my comment.

Exchange does have better data security though and everything doesn't have to leave your local network to get to the right person. But We're a cloud computing company and we live behind that. We got a rule and that is NO local servers. We might get a NAS at some point but we can cloud that too I suppose. It all comes down to internet bandwidth when working in the cloud and we got that for the most part.

Kinda wierd....
By captainBOB on 7/7/2009 1:35:41 PM , Rating: 2
The little beta tag grew on me, to see it vanish.... just weird. Oh well I can always turn it back on :)

RE: Kinda wierd....
By Souka on 7/7/2009 1:53:19 PM , Rating: 1

RE: Kinda wierd....
By xsilver on 7/7/2009 10:54:05 PM , Rating: 2
coloured sharpies

I bet you will be popular as well if you fixed it for everyone in the office; even if they dont use gmail...

Check Calendar
By gmyx on 7/7/2009 2:01:01 PM , Rating: 3
But it ain't April 1st! This can't be...

RE: Check Calendar
By Omega215D on 7/7/2009 3:16:57 PM , Rating: 2
Poor satan must be freezing his arse off.

Nice long beta
By Nekrik on 7/7/2009 3:29:21 PM , Rating: 3
"It's unsure why the services remained in beta so long, with Google lacking a true set of policies or rules as to when software can be removed from beta."

It seems like you answered the question as to 'why' in the same sentence. They do not have a completely defined engineering process. They are an engineer (developer) driven company that lacks proper testing, thus they rely on testing from the beta groups.

didn't like google docs
By mforce on 7/8/2009 12:09:33 PM , Rating: 2
Having just used Google Docs for a pretty large document, about 50 pages with pictures and stuff I must say I was disappointed, I expected more. Exporting to ODT was not good at all , it kept freezing or doing weird stuff , kept wanting to use the wrong font , paragraphs were all wrong and well it just had lots of issues.
To be quite hones OpenOffice is much better suited for my needs and also completely free.
Gmail is nice though and for reading/writing email I'd much rather use it than Outlook or Firebird or something.

By Nyu on 7/7/09, Rating: -1
"We don't know how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk." -- Apple CEO Steve Jobs

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