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The entire solar system appears to be warming up lately. What's the root cause?

As an update to my story earlier this month on the discovery of global warming on Mars, I thought it appropriate to survey the rest of the solar system. Global warming was detected on Jupiter last year, and the warming is apparently behind the formation of a second red spot. Global warming on Neptune's moon Triton has also been noted, with severe atmospheric changes as a result. And even tiny Pluto has experienced moderate warming in recent years, with temperatures rising a full 3.5 degrees.

The common denominator in all these cases, the Earth included, is of course the Sun, which is in the middle of an extremely active period at present. The last time it was so active was during the Medieval Warm Period of 700 years ago, a period where the Earth was warmer than it is today. Interestingly enough, the period in which it was least active (the Maunder Minimum) corresponds with the Little Ice Age the earth experienced in the 17th century.

Such correlations are causing many scientists to consider the Sun the primary cause of terrestrial climate change. The initial problem with this theory was that the changes in solar flux didn't appear to be enough to account for the warming.

However the research of scientist Henrik Svensmark of the Danish Space Research Institute has provided the missing link. Increased solar activity not only warms the earth directly, it increases the strength of the solar winds. This reduces the amount of cosmic radiation striking the earth, which directly reduces the formation rate of clouds. Less clouds = more warming.

Astrophysicist Nir Shaviv reconstructed 550 million years of Earth's climate change history. He found that 2/3 of the temperature variance could be explained by changes in cosmic flux alone, without even considering the direct influence of solar heating.

This has always been a weak point of CO2-based models, which have never been able to succesfully explain these warming and cooling trends in our past.



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Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 3/19/2007 9:16:30 AM , Rating: 2
The Science Channel is syndicating a 2007 series called "Understanding Time." The episodes are not clearly labeled, but the first episode deals with deep time; time over millions of years.

One topic in the deep time episode deals with the fluctuations of the Earth's rotation, tilt, wobble, etc. Although I have not researched a lot of this personally, the evidence from the program seems to indicate that cosmic changes have incredible impacts on local climate change.

For example, one point made in the program is that during one of the last major ice ages, the ice records on the top of the Himalayas did not line up with the ones from the poles -- a differential that was created by the 41,000 year wobble of the Earth.




RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By Enoch2001 on 3/19/2007 9:47:37 AM , Rating: 1
It doesn't take much to understand how dramatic an effect the Earth's wobble has on the climate. After all, it's the Earth's tilt that causes its seasons. Wobble it one way and you can blur the lines (if not remove them altogether) between seasons.

Yikes!

That said, it's sad that this will detract from the real problem of CO2 emissions and the burning of fossil fuels. Can't wait to see where this thread goes...


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By porkpie on 3/19/2007 10:10:10 AM , Rating: 3
If this story is right, then there isn't a 'real problem' of co2 emissions to detract from.


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By dever on 3/19/2007 1:37:53 PM , Rating: 3
This is obviously due to alien SUV CO2 emissions.


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By JDub02 on 3/19/2007 1:55:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This is obviously due to alien SUV CO2 emissions.


No, it's clearly George Bush's fault. The Republican party has secretly been burning fossil fuels on distant planets.


By dever on 3/19/2007 2:27:42 PM , Rating: 2
Mmmm... little smokies cooked on a martian grill... tasty!


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By exanimas on 3/20/2007 1:23:37 AM , Rating: 2
Wait, so Al Gore is wrong!?!?!?


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By uberfu on 3/20/2007 9:36:38 AM , Rating: 2
Al Gore Wrong ??

Nah - come on now_ Al Gore couldn't possibly be wrong_


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By therealnickdanger on 3/20/2007 9:48:39 AM , Rating: 2
But I'm super serial!!!


By Chadder007 on 3/21/2007 3:11:24 PM , Rating: 2
MANBEARPIG!!! :run:


By caqde on 3/21/2007 6:09:24 PM , Rating: 2
Not necessarily remember most things don't have one cause. This could be a major cause of warming, but I highly doubt that it is the only cause. Life would be so easy if there was one answer to everything, but then again it would also be boring.


By jmunjr on 3/19/2007 10:25:45 AM , Rating: 2
It isn't sad that it may detract from the real problem of man-induced global warming propaganda.


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By arazok on 3/19/2007 11:37:00 AM , Rating: 2
Well, it would seem that this indicates that the real problem has less to do with C02 and more with solar activity. What's sad is that after reading this, you completely tossed the information aside, and declared that the 'real problem' is C02 emissions.

It's okay, ignoring evidence that is contrary to a conclusion the cool thing to do these days.

What amazes me is that studies like this get zero attention in the media. Meanwhile some UN bureaucrat can report that C02 causes pigs to grow wings, and everyone runs for the hills. Environmentalists have been looking for proof that we are going to destroy the earth since the 60's. Now they have everyone going along for the ride, and we're going to trash our economies in the process.


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By brandonmichael on 3/19/2007 12:27:55 PM , Rating: 5
What this information "indicates" is that our ecosystem is more complicated than we know and that the problem of global warming is a multi-faceted one. Studies similar to this one have indeed been given attention for a long time, studies which scientists, politicians and big business have been using to counter-act claims of carbon dioxide induced global warming.

What exactly does anyone have to gain by claiming that CO2 has caused global warming? Is Al Gore financing his world domination conspiracy with his lecture circuit paycheck? Are the "Environmentalists" raking in millions in "The End is Neigh!" t-shirt sales?

While Big Oil has everything to gain by deny global warming. Its taken 20 years for scientists to even acknowledge that global warming is even taking place. Why do you think that is?

Because global warming doesnt make anybody rich.

Give me a break pal.


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By arazok on 3/19/2007 1:00:30 PM , Rating: 3
What exactly does anyone have to gain by claiming that CO2 has caused global warming? Is Al Gore financing his world domination conspiracy with his lecture circuit paycheck? Are the "Environmentalists" raking in millions in "The End is Neigh!" t-shirt sales?

Absolutely nothing. 1980's - What does anybody have to gain by telling us that Acid Rain will kill everything green? 1970's - Population growth will cause mass starvation. Deforestation? Mass Extinction? Pesticides?

What did anybody have to gain by ringing alarm bells about all of these past enviro-trendy issues? Nothing. They were all fears blown all out of proportion by environmentalists, and happily lapped up by a gullible public who can't do anything but read headlines. There is no vested interest here, just humans natural tendency to fear, and spread that fear to anyone who will listen.

And Al Gore is a politician, everything he does is about vested interests. Give me a break pal.


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By brandonmichael on 3/19/2007 1:27:39 PM , Rating: 1
Al Gore is a politician. Good job.

If you think we are not experiencing mass starvation, mass extinction, than you are incredibly naive. People rang the alarm bells and you are absolutely right, they didnt gain a damn thing because no one listened.
And now we are in the middle of exactly what we were warned against. They said we would have mass extinction, they said we would have global warming, they said we would have mass starvation. We do.

If you want to claim that global warming and the enviornmental problems we are facing is just fear mongering, then you are in for an unpleasant wake up call. "Pal"


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By dever on 3/19/2007 1:47:56 PM , Rating: 2
brandon... how about some citations? I shouldn't even respond to such, but really... mass starvation? The only things keeping people of the earth starving are corrupt governments, and environmental policies that discourage poor countries from using the same technologies that allow the rest of us to live in magnificent wealth.

Most things said by politicians are said for thier own political gain. Socialists, and other power-mongers, gain immense power when the public fears for their lives. When people are afraid, they are more willing to give up their own liberties and turn to government for help, whether or not the fear is valid.


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By fk49 on 3/19/2007 4:15:54 PM , Rating: 2
Couldn't have said it better myself. More people need to read Crichton's State of Fear. I wouldn't vouch for the scientific accuracy of the novel but he brings up good points on the motivations behind environmentalists.

Fear is what keeps people in line and causes them to unite under a leader against a perceived enemy (usually wars). We call it patriotism but too often its just a tool for power =(


RE: Science Channel "Understanding Time"
By brandonmichael on 3/19/07, Rating: -1