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P35T-DQ6 with DDR3 support

P35-DQ6 with DDR2 support

P35-DS3R for mainstream markets

G33-DS3R with Intel integrated graphics

G33M-DS2R, "Bearlake" in a micro ATX package
Gigabyte United is set to introduce its "Bearlake" motherboards at Computex 2007, powered by Intel's P35 and G33 Express chipsets

Gigabyte United is set to introduce its next generation Ultra Durable 2 series motherboards in early June. The new motherboards features ferrite core choke coils, low RDS MOSFETs and all-solid capacitors for increased reliability and longevity. Gigabyte United claims the ferrite core choke coils offer higher frequency operation for improved overclocking capabilities, lower temperatures, lower electromagnetic interference and resistance to rust.

RDS MOSFETs minimize conduction and gate charge switching losses while delivering lower temperatures, in a small package. All solid capacitors solve capacitor leakage problems that plagued previous motherboards from all motherboard manufacturers. The solid capacitors promise higher heat resistance and performance while being more environmental friendly than electrolytic capacitors.

Gigabyte United expects to launch its Ultra Durable 2 series motherboards with Intel’s next-generation Bearlake family of chipsets. There will be five Ultra Durable 2 series motherboards powered by Intel’s P35 and G33 Express chipsets – the P35-DQ6, P35-DS3R, P35T-DQ6, G33M-D2SR and G33-DS3R in full and micro ATX configurations. Gigabyte United pairs all five Ultra Durable 2 series motherboards with Intel’s ICH9R south bridge for enhanced I/O connectivity.

At the top of the Ultra Durable 2 spectrum are the P35-DQ6 and P35T-DQ6. Both models share similar feature sets, including dual physical PCIe x16, three PCIe x1 and two PCI slots. Despite having two physical PCIe x16 slots, only the upper slot delivers 16 PCIe lanes to the graphics card. The second PCIe x16 slot delivers lesser lanes, typically 2-4 lanes.

There are also six SATA 3.0Gbps ports powered by Intel’s ICH9R south bridge with support for Matrix RAID technology, two additional SATA ports and a single IDE port powered by a separate controller. Other notable features include 8-channel high definition audio by a Realtek audio codec and a heat pipe chipset cooling.

Differentiating the P35-DQ6 and P35T-DQ6 is memory support. The P35-DQ6 relies on current DDR2 memory while the P35T-DQ6 supports next-generation DDR3 memory technology.

Moving away from the enthusiast arena are the P35-DS3R and G33-DS3R. These models feature a single PCIe x16 slot without support for multi-GPU technologies. There are also three PCIe x1 and three PCI slots for additional expansion. As with the higher end P35-DQ6 and P35T-DQ6, the mainstream P35-DS3R and G33-DS3R feature six SATA 3.0Gbps ports powered by Intel’s ICH9R, two additional SATA 3.0Gbps and an IDE port powered by a secondary controller.

Realtek high-definition audio codecs deliver 8-channel audio on both boards. Gigabyte United equips these mainstream models with DDR2 memory support. Chipset cooling remains passive, although there is no elaborate heat pipe setup on the P35-DS3R and G33-DS3R. The G33-DS3R offers integrated graphics while the P35-DS3R requires a PCIe graphics card.

Lastly, Gigabyte United delivers Intel’s G33 Express in a micro ATX package with the G33M-DS2R. This model features one PCIe x16, one PCIe x1 and two PCI slots. There are only six SATA 3.0Gbps ports and one IDE. Aside from minor differences, the G33M-DS2R has a similar feature set as the full-sized G33-DS3R.

Expect Gigabyte United to officially pull the wraps off its Ultra Durable 2 series at Computex 2007.


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Nice
By gigahertz20 on 4/30/2007 10:11:35 PM , Rating: 2
Very nice, I'm planning to build a new computer in early September. Maybe pick up a P35T-DQ6 with DDR3 support and an Intel Core 2 Quad 6600 for $266 and I'll be flying. I didn't even know mobo's were going to DDR3 already, didn't think that would happen anytime soon.

What other goodies are coming out before September? Anybody know? Intel's Penryn is suppose to be out or is that coming out at the end of the year? I can't remember there are so many release dates for products there should be a website that tracks the release dates for all new cool products. AMD R600, Intel Penryn, Price drop dates, Nvidia 8800 Ultra...something that displays them all in one giant table.




RE: Nice
By PLaYaHaTeD on 4/30/2007 10:17:50 PM , Rating: 6
Not a table and not the best layout, but simple and in chronological order:

http://www.mikeshardware.co.uk/RoadmapQ307.htm


RE: Nice
By gigahertz20 on 4/30/2007 10:24:28 PM , Rating: 2
You are my god! Thanks so much man I bookmarked this baby and put it at the top of my favorite list. I've been wanting to find a site like this for so long.


RE: Nice
By Operandi on 4/30/2007 10:39:08 PM , Rating: 3
It would be nice to see a step up from the default Realtek sound chip but otherwise those look a bunch of very solid well built boards.


RE: Nice
By gigahertz20 on 4/30/2007 10:53:40 PM , Rating: 2
They do look very nice, I just hope these motherboards don't have the same problem Gigabyte had with their Intel P965 chipset motherboards. I don't want to have to wait several months for BIOS updates to make a motherboard stable.

Remember how many BIOS updates it took for the P965 motherboards to finally be more compatible with different memory and all the bug problems they had.

It took several BIOS revisions for the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 to be a good overclocker and become more stable. Anandtech even did a review when Gigabyte came out with the F9 BIOS because the new BIOS finally make the board enthusiast acceptable.

Now I even wonder if I should build a new computer this September with one of these new motherboards, maybe I should just go with a P965 chipset mobo that way I'm not a beta tester for a new motherboard.


RE: Nice
By yehuda on 5/1/2007 5:19:44 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure what you mean by "default Realtek sound chip", but it seems these boards employ a new Realtek chip called ALC889A with 106dB SNR on the output ports and support for DTS Connect. See this page:

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=...

They really should, however, abandon the default Realtek NIC in favor of a more CPU efficient solution, at least in the enthusiast targeted boards.


RE: Nice
By therealnickdanger on 5/1/2007 8:39:06 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks yehuda, integrated audio (IA) has really come a long way. I still have my Audigy4Pro and while it's an awesome card, I'm pretty sure that I will never use it again. I suppose if I ever get into sampling music again I might, but IA is too easy and too good now to ignore, especially with Dolby Digital Live and DTS Connect being featured so often - something Creative refuses to offer. So it uses a couple more percentage points more in a game. If that takes me from 180fps to 160fps, I think I can live.

I agree with you, better quality ethernet ports would go much further in my book...


RE: Nice
By Samus on 5/1/2007 2:00:05 AM , Rating: 2
Unless its noticably faster/better than my solid DFI 975x, or any 975, I'll pass and wait for the next, nextgen chipset. I'm sure Intel will be at 1333fsb for awhile.


RE: Nice
By Thorburn on 5/1/2007 3:31:42 AM , Rating: 2
Well not that long as next year they move to Nehalem and the new socket, possibly CSI as well depending on market, etc.


RE: Nice
By LogicallyGenius on 5/1/07, Rating: 0
What is the advantage
By GlassHouse69 on 4/30/2007 11:26:39 PM , Rating: 2
I am not certain of an obvious advantage to ddr3. yeah, faster, but is it worth the wait?

also, being primarily and amd user, I dont think it has as much use for amd as it does for intel right?

Also, I saw this:

"Intel Core 2 Duo (Wolfdale) desktop CPU is expected to be released in Q3. Wolfdale is the Dual Core version of Yorkfield based on the Penryn core and featuring 6MB of shared L2 cache running on a 45nm process. Wolfdale is expected to feature clock speeds of up to 4Ghz and can run on a 1333Mhz or 1066Mhz FSB speed. The TDP of Wolfdale is expected to be 57W."

damn. thats a sick gaming chip! Not an intel fan but something has to be said about 4ghz and then possible oc'ing it to like 5 on water cooling??!!

All the same, still waiting for Kuma and agena... nice link btw ;)




RE: What is the advantage
By ADDAvenger on 4/30/2007 11:50:18 PM , Rating: 2
DDR3 uses less power and goes to higher speeds. Basically DDR3 is to DDR2 what DDR2 is to DDR.

DDR3 isn't something I'm going to care about in a desktop for quite a while, though DDR3 in a laptop is something else entirely. I believe DDR uses 2.5v, DDR2 uses 1.8, and DDR3 uses 1.5v


RE: What is the advantage
By KHysiek on 5/1/2007 5:46:47 AM , Rating: 2
It also "provides" higher default latencies at these speeds, so overall (as usual) you pay premium for nowelty and get the same speed (pray for not slower).


RE: What is the advantage
By DocDraken on 5/1/2007 8:35:29 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
DDR3 uses less power and goes to higher speeds. Basically DDR3 is to DDR2 what DDR2 is to DDR.


Except that DDR2 was slower than DDR for quite a while because of it's higher latency. It wasn't until it ramped up in frequency that it became better.

So unless DDR3 keeps the latency down or debuts at much higher frequency, it's not going to be significantly faster.


RE: What is the advantage
By GlassHouse69 on 5/1/2007 10:33:50 AM , Rating: 2
they should use something like gddr4 clocked at 2000 or whatever. Isnt there a lower latency version of this crap ram they are using? Asrocks ddr1/ddr2 combo board showed that at maximum there is about a 3% speed difference. of course, 3% and now if it hits 6%, that is quite good in a way.


RE: What is the advantage
By sdsdv10 on 5/1/2007 3:08:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
they should use something like gddr4 clocked at 2000 or whatever.


GDDR is for graphics, thus the "G", not for main system RAM.


RE: What is the advantage
By FrankM on 5/1/2007 5:19:09 PM , Rating: 2
DDR3 is still fresh and maturing; however, some leaked info on xs shows Geil DDR3-1066 CL6 oc'd to 1500 CL7... try that on DDR2; and it's still pre-release.


Where is the firewire 800 - 1394b
By PAPutzback on 5/1/2007 8:55:54 AM , Rating: 2
Who doesn't have a digital video recorder these days. Or external firewire drives.




RE: Where is the firewire 800 - 1394b
By HaZaRd2K6 on 5/1/2007 10:58:28 AM , Rating: 2
*raises hand*

I've had a camcorder for years but it's not digital as digital ones are still BLOODY expensive. And I don't have external Firewire drives, I prefer to keep all my drives on the inside of my case 'cause that's infinitely faster than an external drive.


By Homerboy on 5/1/2007 3:36:11 PM , Rating: 2
wow lots wrong there
Digital Camcorders (DV) can be had for sub $350 EASILY now.


By rtrski on 5/1/2007 6:02:04 PM , Rating: 2
Looks like there's plenty of onboard headers - probably a 1394 buried in there along with front USBs. All you'd need is the slot adaptor, if the FW port isn't in the included IO. (And not even that if your case has a front connection to use the header, which is even more convenient for camcorders etc...)


By lumbergeek on 5/2/2007 8:39:54 PM , Rating: 2
I don't. I have external USB2 drives, but not IEEE1394. I also don't have a DV camera.

Before you ridicule me, I'm an electronic engineer not a noob. I just don't feel the "need" for these items. A DV camera would be "nice", though I'd hold out for a decent HDV camera a a decent price from anyone but Sony.


suggestion
By sprockkets on 5/1/2007 2:23:58 AM , Rating: 2
Those boards are nice Gigabyte, but what makes solid capacitors and your other features only good enough for Intel boards? I guess what you are saying is that people would shell out $110-$130 for an Intel G965 uATX board instead of around $70 for an AMD board huh?




RE: suggestion
By Anh Huynh on 5/1/2007 3:20:58 AM , Rating: 2
Note these boards are based on Intel's next-generation chipset. There's always a possibility the next-generation AMD boards will feature the same features, when they arrive. And the high end AMD boards have all-solid capacitors already.


RE: suggestion
By Stele on 5/1/2007 10:11:27 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
all-solid capacitors

With all due respect, "all-solid electrolyte capacitors" would be the more accurate term... the 'solid' refers to the electrolyte inside the caps, as opposed to the traditional liquid electrolyte which is prone to leak out if poorly made/badly spec'ed, as we well know.

After all, there are hardly any "liquid capacitors" around... whatever the electrolyte, the outside container must be solid, and that would be the 'capacitor' - anything inside would be the electrolyte, be it in solid or liquid form.

It's an extremely and distressingly popular error around the web :)


RE: suggestion
By johnsonx on 5/2/2007 1:56:05 AM , Rating: 2
If they didn't have any electrolyte in them they wouldn't be capacitors, now would they? So you can't exactly say the outside container is the capacitor; the whole thing is the capacitor.

I get what you're saying, but you're being rather nit-picky. We already know the outside is solid, so the modifier 'all-solid' must be referring to the part of it that isn't necessarily solid. Everyone understands precisely what is meant by 'all-solid capacitor'. Indeed, 'solid capacitor' is probably sufficient without the 'all-' prefix.


hmm
By jay401 on 5/1/2007 8:35:10 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The new motherboards features ferrite core choke coils, low RDS MOSFETs and all-solid capacitors for increased reliability and longevity.

**adds those items to list of must-haves for future motherboard purchases**

I'm a sucker for 'low temp and greater reliability' marketing. :(




RE: hmm
By jay401 on 5/1/2007 8:39:05 AM , Rating: 2
The question to ask other vendors at Computex this year will be: "But does your ferrite core choke coils? Gigabyte's does!"

Maybe the new Gigabyte marketing campaign could be, "IS GIGABYTE'S FERRITE CORE GONNA HAVE TO CHOKE A COIL?!"


RE: hmm
By Stele on 5/1/2007 10:02:22 AM , Rating: 3
Actually it's more of marketing hype - making mountains out of molehills as is unfortunately often the case with some manufacturers who try to capitalise on the fact that your average PC buyer is not electronically-inclined.

Choke coils on motherboards have generally be wound on ferrite cores for the longest time... those hard 'doughnuts' we often see in those coils are ferrite!

Same goes for 'low RDS MOSFETs'... by the way, it should be ' low RDS(ON) MOSFETs' which mean the MOSFETs have a low resistance when they are in the 'on' state (i.e. when current is flowing through them). This allows minimum obstruction to current flow, which translates into higher efficiency and lower power dissipation (the higher the resistance, the more power is lost as heat). Again, MOSFETs with low RDS(ON) have been pretty much standard on decent motherboards for some time now... the difference is that top manufacturers use MOSFETs with very low RDS(ON), which are of course better but cost more.

As such, these claims are about as big a deal as saying that the new motherboards feature 4-layer PCBs and onboard audio....

To be fair, Gigabyte probably meant that they're using a special form/type of ferrite-core coils, and especially-low RDS(ON) MOSFETs. However, from experience, it'd most likely turn out that the components they use aren't super-outstanding as their marketing hype makes it out to be.


RE: hmm
By jay401 on 5/1/2007 10:51:25 AM , Rating: 2
thanks, you're probably right.


How hot do these chipsets run?
By MDE on 4/30/2007 10:40:04 PM , Rating: 2
The chipset cooling on newer motherboards is becoming insane. When Nvidia put a heatpipe on the reference 680i board I was surprised, but seeing the elaborate (to say the least) cooling contraptions on the P35 boards I can't help but wonder, how much power are these chipsets using and how much heat do they really put out?




By gigahertz20 on 4/30/2007 10:58:31 PM , Rating: 2
Hopefully the heatpipes can handle the heat, alot of the time the people who assemble the heat pipes on the motherboard are sloppy and either use to much thermal paste or not enough which can later cause problems.

I built a computer with a Asus P5N-E SLI 650i chipset and the heat pipes on it didn't work that great. I couldn't figure out why the computer kept on blue screening until I opened the case and put a fan on the motherboard. That fixed the problem, even though heatpipes are alot quieter then more fans they don't always work the best.


By Egglick on 5/1/2007 12:22:16 AM , Rating: 2
I don't know, but after reading "lower temperatures" about 3 or 4 times throughout the article, the size of some of those heatsinks made me raise an eyebrow.

I'd much rather have a large heatsink than a chipset fan though. Those 40mm fans really suck for noise.


RE: How hot do these chipsets run?
By FrankM on 5/1/2007 5:32:55 PM , Rating: 2
Chipsets, especially nVidia, tend to get very hot even with today's giant heatpipe cooling - even a few years back, they were hot, and they had even less cooling. Try touching your NB cooler to feel just how hot it is... No wonder many watercooling loops include a NB block, or overclockers putting fans on the NB heatsinks as frequently it is the limiting factor in higher overclocks.
The P35- and X38-series are said to be hotter than the 965- and 975-series chipsets, despite the transition from 90 to 65nm.


I can't wait...
By PLaYaHaTeD on 4/30/2007 9:43:28 PM , Rating: 2
I have my empty Lian Li PC-B20 just waiting to be filled with some X35 goodness. I would wait for the X38, but then I might as well wait for 45nm cpus, and then I might as well wait for Eaglelake and ICH10.... then Nehalem, etc.

Seems like an opportune time since ATI and nVidia will soon be battling it out, so I'll have some new options to choose from in the graphics arena as well.




RE: I can't wait...
By FireTech on 5/1/2007 4:33:21 AM , Rating: 2
So much for technological advancement: we have recently lost an IDE channel but the old (useless?) parallel port is still hanging in there...


RE: I can't wait...
By johnsonx on 5/2/2007 2:08:10 AM , Rating: 2
The ONE time I tried to deliver to a customer a computer with no parallel port, it turned out they needed it for a copy protection dongle. So I avoid parallel-port-less boards like the plague. Aside from that use, so many people still want to plug in some old printer, or have some other odd device that connects parallel. Somewhere in a box of junk I have a cable I built that connects a Playstation controller to a PC's parallel port; I don't really have any use for it now, but what if I wanted to use it (and could find Vista drivers for it)?


RE: I can't wait...
By thebrown13 on 5/19/2007 1:18:56 PM , Rating: 1
There are external USB->Parallel $10 deals for that. Get it off our motherboards please, I don't feel like paying for technology from 1990, today.


Waiiiiiiiiiit a minute, here...
By HaZaRd2K6 on 4/30/2007 11:13:52 PM , Rating: 3
Isn't Gigabyte United the now-defunct partnership between ASUS and Gigabyte? Should these not just be "Gigabyte" motherboards instead of "Gigabyte United"?

As an aside, these do look like very nice boards... Can't wait to get my hands on some DDR3 system memory *rubs hands together greedily*




RE: Waiiiiiiiiiit a minute, here...
By soydeedo on 5/1/2007 12:10:40 AM , Rating: 2
which may be why the boxes only say gigabyte and drop the united. =P

i did think the box styling reminded me of asus, though. good catch.


By johnsonx on 5/1/2007 3:31:17 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder if they're Heart Touching like the ASUS boards are.


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