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  (Source: Kotaku.com)
Punch-Out franchise to return as well

Nintendo held a major press conference on Thursday at 1:30PM Tokyo time announcing new products such as the Nintendo DSi. As Nintendo has chosen to not attend this year’s Tokyo Game Show, several other major announcements were made during this press conference. One of those announcements was the ability to play games from SD memory cards. Nintendo also announced a new lineup of games as well.

As the event was a Japanese press only conference, Kotaku translated a live blog of the event from Famitsu where Nintendo's Satoru Iwata announced the fix for the Nintendo Wii's inability to play games from external memory storage. According to Iwata, Nintendo is going to make it possible to download games onto SD cards starting in Spring 2009. "We have to address the console's insufficient memory storage," said Iwata. This fix will apply only to WiiWare and Virtual Console games.

In addition to the Wii storage announcement, a number of new Wii games were announced at the press conference. The revival of the NES classic Punch-Out franchise was announced along with Another Code, Sin and Punishment 2, and Sangoku Musou 3 (Dynasty Warriors). It was also announced that Gamecube games will be re-released for the Nintendo Wii starting with Pikmin. The service will be called "Wii de Asobu Selection" (Play on Wii Selection).

Nintendo also plans to ship a short 3 minute movie called “Wii de Dekiru Koto” (What You Can Do With The Wii). The movie will show users how to easily connect to the internet. By no coincidence, Nintendo also announced it is putting special Wi-Fi adaptors for sale on the market.



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You know what might actually make this worth it?
By cplusplus on 10/2/2008 2:51:00 PM , Rating: 3
If they released a firmware update so that the Wii can read SDHC cards. We're up to what, 32GB with that now?




RE: You know what might actually make this worth it?
By RamarC on 10/2/2008 3:04:12 PM , Rating: 3
This is a great pro-consumer move. I always hated buying console specific memory cards when common flash cards were far larger and far cheaper.

Now if they'd just let you use any USB storage device... flash or hard drive!


By EglsFly on 10/2/2008 6:09:27 PM , Rating: 3
Well there is one thing that Sony did do right with the PS3 that the other console makers have yet to do. Any user can upgrade/replace the hard drive in the PS3 with an over the counter item.


RE: You know what might actually make this worth it?
By aLeoN on 10/2/2008 9:23:25 PM , Rating: 3
True, but it just irks me that if I download something on the hard drive provided and then have the money to expand the storage space later, I have to pay to download w/e it was again.


By mikeyD95125 on 10/2/2008 10:52:07 PM , Rating: 3
Well if you have an external hard drive(and you should cause everyone backs up all there important files :p) then you can just back them up right the PS3's menu and load them all back on your new hard drive :)


By murphyslabrat on 10/3/2008 11:49:51 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
everyone backs up all there important files :p

This is the peer-pressure police. Come out with your hands up!


By Tsuwamono on 10/3/2008 12:07:11 PM , Rating: 2
you can use sony's backup tool which is included on the ps3. thats what i did. I went from 40gb to a healthy 320gb.


By Myg on 10/3/2008 11:13:58 AM , Rating: 2
Best not to compare that to an SD-card; it takes a certain amount of knowhow to replace a hard-drive, even if its made simple.

SD-cards are the best medium for a large market, because they are prolific (phones/cameras/etc..) and everyone will have a certain level of confidence in their ability to use them. Whereas with a hard-drive; most people would be scared of it.


By omnicronx on 10/2/2008 3:16:00 PM , Rating: 2
They are not going to be selling wii games for use on SD cards, just WiiWare and Virtual Console games... For now, 2GB is more than enough to store these kind of games.


By Locutus465 on 10/2/2008 3:16:01 PM , Rating: 2
I'm glad they're finally clueing in to the very nessesary need for this. I'm happy getting SD card support for game downloads, and I hope they also include a utility for me to be able to transfer my titles to SD card. It's about darn time I say!


RE: You know what might actually make this worth it?
By Etsp on 10/2/2008 3:25:34 PM , Rating: 2
There is a utility to do that, and it's been there since launch. However, it only lets you move one at a time, and isn't as easy as it should be. I haven't done it in a while so I can't recall where exactly it was, but it was in the memory manager or the channel manager or something.


By Locutus465 on 10/2/2008 3:49:21 PM , Rating: 2
This utility isn't very good for moving games from wii memory to SD card. For starters many games fail to copy properly.

Also, what we're going to be looking for is something that not only copies core game data, but then also points channel links to the SD card, and deletes the game from main wii system memory. A little more sophisticated than the builg in memory manager (as currently written).


By mmntech on 10/2/2008 6:10:09 PM , Rating: 2
Is it a homebrew utility though? Nintendo doing this makes it official so there's no legal grey zone. It's definitely a long time coming, especially if Nintendo wants to make bigger Wiiware games. 512mb of space isn't a lot. All Nintendo needs to do now is cut the price of the Wii to a more reasonable $199.99 to match the 360 Arcade.


By Etsp on 10/2/2008 8:41:40 PM , Rating: 2
No, it came with the wii... you can't PLAY the games from the SD card, but you can put them there for a while to make room for the ones you do want to play.


By danrien on 10/2/2008 5:19:23 PM , Rating: 3
SDHC requires an electrical change, it's not just in the software.


RE: You know what might actually make this worth it?
By Flunk on 10/2/2008 6:13:20 PM , Rating: 2
Are you sure? I can think of at least one example of a device updated to support SDHC with software only. My Dell Axim x51v shipped with only SD support but recently firmwares have surfaced on the Internet that support SDHC, which was not even available when the x51v was released.

Perhaps the Wii could be soft-upgraded, since it is obviously possible for at least some SD card devices.


By GaryJohnson on 10/2/2008 8:57:13 PM , Rating: 2
IIRC, some HTC devices have also been granted SDHC support through firmware upgrades.


RE: You know what might actually make this worth it?
By MrTeal on 10/3/2008 10:28:38 AM , Rating: 2
No, they're pin for pin compatible, but they use a different addressing scheme. A firmware update might allow the Wii to use SDHC.


By Samus on 10/4/2008 3:32:56 PM , Rating: 2
I upgraded my Sony S500 camera to SDHC with a firmware update. It's a 3 year old model, too, manufactured and designed way before SDHC was drafted...so no electrical changes are neccessary.


By inperfectdarkness on 10/4/2008 7:55:41 AM , Rating: 2
i've been waiting ages for this. it's about time. my 2gb sd card is more than enough for all of the 30+ games i've already downloaded for the virtua console. i was almost out of memory.

the only thing that could sweeten this pot any more is if nintendo started releasing vc games at 3x the rate they have been. i do hope to one-day be rid of most of my old consoles.


Wi-Fi Adaptors?
By clovell on 10/2/2008 5:33:08 PM , Rating: 2
I thought the Wii had wireless connectivity built-in?




RE: Wi-Fi Adaptors?
By amanojaku on 10/2/2008 8:30:11 PM , Rating: 2
The Wii supports 802.11b/g, which is a subset of Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi covers all 802.11 wireless technologies. Nintendo might be creating 802.11n adapters.

Additionally, Wii owners without a wireless router can get the Wii online using a no-longer available USB Wi-Fi adapter (developed by Nintendo and Buffalo Technology) that plugs into an XP or Vista machine. There were a few complaints about the limitations of the adapter (as well as a crippling lawsuit against Buffalo technology,) so it's possible a new adapter will replace it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Wi-Fi_USB_Co...
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/csiro-wins-land...


RE: Wi-Fi Adaptors?
By clovell on 10/3/2008 1:52:38 PM , Rating: 2
I see. Not so certain an N adaptor would help - I really only see those things as more useful than G for local traffic.


By InternetGeek on 10/3/2008 2:23:15 AM , Rating: 3
It is about Punch-out! :D

I always loved this game. Even today whenever I put my hands on a nintendo emulator my first question, in a kind of crysis pun but from long before crysis, is "Does it play punch out?". The sad part is I've never been able to beat Soda Popinski :(. I can snipe people and both in almost godlike in Unreal. I come out unscathed of a 4-5hour session in half-life... I just can't beat the frekking ruskie from Punch-out! :(




"WiiWare and VC only"
By neothe0ne on 10/2/2008 4:13:39 PM , Rating: 2
I'm still waiting on Saves with Wi-Fi Connection content, Nintendo. There's no good reason we can't backup save games if we can now backup purchased digital content.




Punch out!!!!
By foolsgambit11 on 10/3/2008 1:39:16 PM , Rating: 2
Fun fun fun fun fun fun fun - punch out with motion control. Actually punching! That would be so much fun.

I wonder if it will be Punch-Out with Mr. Dream, or if they'll get a big name boxer like they did with Mike Tyson (I'm assuming they won't use Mike Tyson again) to be the final opponent.




By Motoman on 10/6/2008 12:11:22 PM , Rating: 2
...to be able to download additional content for disk-based games, like Guitar Hero. I want to be able to get more songs and such - can't do that with the current Wii design.

Running WiiWare or whatever from an SD card is great...but I'm honestly not all that interested in those games. I want to use the SD card to enahance what I can do with my current-gen games.




Don't they need games first?
By Gzus666 on 10/2/08, Rating: -1
RE: Don't they need games first?
By neothe0ne on 10/2/2008 4:17:55 PM , Rating: 5
Of course, people are only buying Wii's to be portable music and video players and sticking pirated games on Memory Stick Pros... oh my bad, we're talking about the Wii, not the PSP.

If Wii has no games, why are 3rd parties making games for Wii and comparatively nothing for the PSP?

Also, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, de Blob, Elebits, Guitar Hero III, Mega Man 9, VC titles, etc.

Take your trolling somewhere else, pal.


RE: Don't they need games first?
By Gzus666 on 10/2/08, Rating: -1
RE: Don't they need games first?
By neothe0ne on 10/2/2008 4:35:17 PM , Rating: 5
Enjoy your wand waving

Brawl has no wand waving.

, real games will be enjoyed by the PS3/360/PC owners.

First of all, I find it laughable you discount Wii games because they're multiplatform, then say "real" games will be enjoyed by PS3, 360, and PC owners. Since 99% of your "real" games are multiplatform amongst the three, can I discount all the games you think are good too? I'm also going to guess you think real games must have realistic graphics and a futuristic war setting (aka shades of brown and brown) and you wouldn't play a good puzzle game to save your life (Portal does not fit). And I have a Radeon HD4850 in my own PC, thanks much.

Seriously, this is really hard not to laugh at. Defending a system full of rehashes as their only good games is laughable .

I'll ignore your bad grammar for now. Do you honestly believe FPS #23 and FPS #211 are not rehashes of each other? I can't believe you can say with a straight face that Nintendo rehashes all their games when you stand up for at least one platform well known for little other than its first-person shooters.

Again, take your trolling somewhere else.


RE: Don't they need games first?
By Gzus666 on 10/2/08, Rating: -1
RE: Don't they need games first?
By neothe0ne on 10/2/2008 4:53:13 PM , Rating: 1
You don't see me claiming developers like Rockstar are complete trash for putting out one game aimed at casuals (Ping Pong) when they've also released million-selling hits (GTA), or claiming the PC has a "suck factor" because of shoddy console ports on it like Assassin's Creed and Gears of War. I hope you aren't taking yourself seriously (and hope even more that you aren't Sarah Palin) because anyone should be able to see how broken your logic is.


RE: Don't they need games first?
By Gzus666 on 10/2/08, Rating: 0
RE: Don't they need games first?
By neothe0ne on 10/2/2008 5:36:36 PM , Rating: 2
Summary of what you just said:
1) Rockstar's Ping Pong is trash, but they make up for it by putting out other good stuff.
2) Nintendo's Wii Fit is trash, but they don't make up for it because not only do they put out good stuff, they also put out 3 lame consoles. Therefore they only put out trash.

....

While I'm attempting to process the complete mind**** you just gave me to comprehend, you seem to be ignoring (or even worse, unaware of) massive amounts of user complaints about many 360 to PC ports (especially Gears of War) on poor performance on good hardware, game crashes, poor controls, awful UI, etc. Good luck defending yourself, you'll need it.


RE: Don't they need games first?
By chick0n on 10/2/08, Rating: -1
RE: Don't they need games first?
By clovell on 10/2/2008 6:46:29 PM , Rating: 3
Why do people feel the need to bash others over the head in order to validate their own personal entertainment preference?

The first decent answer will get a cookie.


RE: Don't they need games first?
By amanojaku on 10/2/2008 7:06:57 PM , Rating: 5
Because chick0n and Gzus666 are very simple people. With very small penis. Mr. Gzus666 penis is …especially small.

Gzus666: "Uh, smuh, so small."


RE: Don't they need games first?
By Gzus666 on 10/3/08, Rating: -1
RE: Don't they need games first?
By clovell on 10/3/2008 10:46:24 AM , Rating: 2
I didn't direct that solely at you, and I don't give a damn who started it.

FFS, people, it's Friday - I mean, come on...


RE: Don't they need games first?
By clovell on 10/3/2008 1:50:38 PM , Rating: 2
Oatmeal raisin or chocolate chip?


RE: Don't they need games first?
By Gzus666 on 10/3/08, Rating: -1
RE: Don't they need games first?
By Gzus666 on 10/3/08, Rating: -1
RE: Don't they need games first?
By SoWUT on 10/3/2008 1:02:59 PM , Rating: 1
Why do you keep posting this crap? If anything you look more like a PS3/Xbox/PC raid fan than neotheone, although he may just be as guilty except your post contains more useless drivel than his.

So I'll end it here:

Gzuss666 like PS3/Xbox/PC games and Neotheone likes Wii games.


RE: Don't they need games first?
By Gzus666 on 10/3/08, Rating: -1
RE: Don't they need games first?
By SoWUT on 10/3/2008 12:51:17 PM , Rating: 3
You're still playing video games??? What are you 11 yrs old??

Man take your kiddie video games PS3/Xbox/PC/Wii sh*t out of your mom's basement and play real games!! Vegas is that away ---->


RE: Don't they need games first?
By fibreoptik on 10/7/2008 11:51:51 AM , Rating: 1
That's funny because my Wii is gathering dust as well. I've just been having way too much fun with my PS3 and PC.

There are a few OK titles on the Wii but nothing that GRABS you and makes you lose sleep etc. (like any great game should) such as Mercenaries 2, Fallout 3, or MGS4...

Wii is good for parties and retirement homes. That's about it.


RE: Don't they need games first?
By japlha on 10/3/2008 1:19:42 PM , Rating: 1
Let's get ready to ruuummmble!


RE: Don't they need games first?
By Gzus666 on 10/3/08, Rating: 0
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