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GameStop and EB Games no longer offer in-store warranty of Xbox 360

Selling extended warranties is often a major source of profit for electronics retailers. Termed “product replacement” or “product service” plans, store employees are incentivized to push such added costs to the consumer – though most savvy buyers hardly ever give in to such pressures.

It’s not unheard of that an extended in-store warranty saves the day for a customer’s broken product, but clearly the odds are in the retailer’s favor – that is, of course, unless a given product has an abnormally high failure rate.

The Xbox 360 may be one such product that exhibits such a high failure rate that a corporation would deem it unprofitable to offer cover under its own policies. GameStop recently issued a memo to its stores instructing workers to stop selling the product replacement plan (PRP) for new Xbox 360 purchases.

The store operations memo, as hosted by GamersReports, reads: Effective immediately GameStop will no longer offer PRPs on new, refurbed, and used Xbox 360 systems. When prompted by the POS ‘Do you want a PRP plan added to this purchase,’ please press ‘Escape’ and DO NOT offer PRPs to customers purchasing an Xbox 360 system. Customers purchasing a new Xbox 360 system will still receive a 1 year manufacturer’s warranty from Microsoft.

Phone calls to various GameStop and EB Games stores in San Francisco confirmed that the new policy was already well-known by store workers. GameStop will still offer product replacement plans for the PlayStation 3 and Wii, both of which also come with a one year manufacturer’s warranty.

DailyTech
found during the investigation into the 33 percent failure rate of the Xbox 360 that EB Games, a chain owned by GameStop, early in 2007 nearly doubled the prices of its one-year, over-the-counter warranty. Even with the price increase, it appears that GameStop feels that covering the Xbox 360 to be an unworthy risk.

At the time of the Xbox 360 launch, Microsoft supplied only a 90-day warranty with its console. More than a year later, Microsoft boosted the warranty to one year to better match-up with the warranty terms offered by competitors.

Quickly following widespread reports that one-third of all Xbox 360 units fall to the dreaded Red Ring of Death, Microsoft extended its warranty to cover the specific hardware failure for three years from purchase.

In addition to the upgraded warranty coverage, Microsoft has also been making hardware changes in hopes to improve the reliability of its console. In June, Microsoft introduced a revised cooling design with heatpipe and heatsink to cool the GPU. Word also came of new “Falcon” hardware that would include 65nm chip technology, which was later found to apply only to the CPU. Hardware to integrate a 65nm GPU, codenamed “Jasper,” isn’t due until August 2008.

65nm “Falcon” consoles flocked to consumers during late September, which proved with its smaller die and heatsink that the newest hardware revision will run cooler. Despite Microsoft’s efforts in improving its manufacturing process, GameStop’s decision to stop selling its PRP shows a vote of non-confidence in the current reliability of the Xbox 360.


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Figures...
By Farfignewton on 10/28/2007 11:24:53 PM , Rating: 5
The one time you might actually WANT the dang warranty... ;)




RE: Figures...
By enlil242 on 10/28/2007 11:35:24 PM , Rating: 5
Well, being that the abnormal faliure rates forced Microsoft to offer a 3-year warranty on RRoD issues, I'd say that the RRP is still a waste of money. I would only consider getting a replacement plan like this on high-end purchases (Plasma TV's, etc.)

However, that said, I am sure that the initial xbox failures really took advantage of such plans until Microsoft finally came around...


RE: Figures...
By FITCamaro on 10/28/2007 11:53:45 PM , Rating: 5
Kinda dumb to do it now considering that the issues that were causing the console to brick have pretty much been fixed.


RE: Figures...
By daftrok on 10/29/2007 12:00:08 AM , Rating: 1
Really?


RE: Figures...
By One43637 on 10/29/2007 2:52:38 PM , Rating: 1
quote:

by FITCamaro on October 28, 2007 at 11:53 PM

Kinda dumb to do it now considering that the issues that were causing the console to brick have pretty much been fixed.


Yeah I don't believe that. My friend got his second RROD after his got fixed 5 months back.....


RE: Figures...
By FITCamaro on 10/29/2007 4:12:20 PM , Rating: 2
It's still an older model though. The newer ones are more reliable since they have the improved heatsink and the newest have the 65nm processor.

My 360 is 5 months old and I haven't had a single problem with it.


RE: Figures...
By DASQ on 10/30/2007 11:18:46 AM , Rating: 2
My friends' 360 has failed 3 times in the last year. Unless they keep sending him old ones.


RE: Figures...
By XToneX on 10/30/2007 11:24:20 AM , Rating: 2
I bought a brand new one 1 month and a half ago. It died a few weeks ago. I replaced it via Best Buy's PRP. If it wasn't for the PRP, I wouldn't own an xbox360. It's about darn time Microsoft got off their rear ends and FIXED their problem, not make lame excuses like, "Oh well.. umm... don't be mad that our product sucks... be happy about the way that we resolve your problem" What a joke...


RE: Figures...
By crazyblackman on 10/29/07, Rating: -1
RE: Figures...
By thebrown13 on 10/29/2007 12:21:11 AM , Rating: 1
I bought a new 360, and had my broken one shipped back to me. So I have two now, and they both work perfectly. My old one had disc read errors, but not the new ones. Wee!


anyone ever had a problem with...
By inperfectdarkness on 10/29/07, Rating: 0
RE: anyone ever had a problem with...
By darkpaw on 10/29/2007 9:20:00 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, my Wii is the only console I've ever owned that has ever needed to be warrantied. Three months after buying it I started getting screen artifacts all the time.

That said, they sent an advance replacement unit in about two days and I just had to return my original one. Was really great service on their part.

Only thing that kinda freaked me out, they shipped the replacement unit in a box form fit to the Wii with only about a 1/8" bubble envelope around it. Surprised they made it through UPS like that at all.


By inperfectdarkness on 10/29/2007 11:55:13 AM , Rating: 4
ditto on the wii. but they took care of it real fast.

that's the ONLY nintendo system i've ever had to get checked. i've got all of them. i've had my snes since 1994, and it still runs like a top. same for the n64 and the NES. hell, i had a neighbor accidentally run over his gameboy with a car, and it still worked. i will swear on a bible that nintendo has some of the best product testing of any company in the world.

dealing with nintendo for product service is like dealing with USAA for insurance. i wouldn't want anyone else.


By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 4:15:28 PM , Rating: 2
Weird, that's what happend to mine and in about the same time... I had VC games so it need to be repaired and sent back, I was shocked to see on the return slip that they "were unable to duplicate the problem - unit replaced"... Especially since it did the same thing on my friends SD TV with composit inputs


By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 4:13:13 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, my Wii died a couple of months after I bought it... Well, not complete death, but it started throwing out visual artifacts... Every product on the market has a failure rate, it's sad that my mods are lost so I could post this :(


There may be another reason
By SunAngel on 10/29/2007 1:26:03 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
65nm “Falcon” consoles flocked to consumers during late September, which proved with its smaller die and heatsink that the newest hardware revision will run cooler. Despite Microsoft’s efforts in improving its manufacturing process, GameStop’s decision to stop selling its PRP shows a vote of non-confidence in the current reliability of the Xbox 360.


The underwriter they were using decided not to continue warranting this particular electronic. Best way to find out is ask who the underwriter is for their current products, if it is the same then obviously (1) yes, it was the underwriter nolonger wanting to warranty the device, and (2) EBGames has not found a suitable replacement underwriter.

The FUD about EBGames purposely not wanting to extend warranties on these devices is unproven.

You guys are really going to have to go the extra mile to prove these are articles are based on credible evidence. These same kind of articles nearly got HardOCP wiped off the map.




RE: There may be another reason
By Marcus Yam on 10/29/2007 1:40:01 AM , Rating: 2
I'll try to get someone from GameStop head office to comment.

I got two different, but similar, responses from the store workers when asking why they won't sell the PRP anymore

Response 1: "IT WAS COSTING THE COMPANY TOO MUCH MONEY."

Response 2: "WE WERE LOSING MONEY ON THEM."

They never mentioned anything about an underwriter. But to extend the parallels to any other type of insurance, it's possible that any sort of underwriter who would be willing to insure all Xbox 360 purchases would charge so much for the PRP that it would be unsellable.

Don't forget that GameStop replaces rather than fixes consoles with its PRP. You walk into the store with your broken Xbox 360 and you walk out with a fully working one. The costs associated with that are a bit different than if you crash your Civic or Mustang.


RE: There may be another reason
By Samus on 10/29/07, Rating: -1
RE: There may be another reason
By mcturkey on 10/30/2007 11:40:46 PM , Rating: 2
The store-level employees weren't informed of the direct reasoning anymore than you were by reading that memo.

Consider this: GameStop sells about 30% of all new video games/systems sold in the US. If a third of the 360's sold come back for warranty service, as per the claim from EB Games earlier in the year, then some 10% of all new 360's sold are not ever going back to Microsoft. If you know your console has issues, but 10% of the time you don't even have a chance to take a look at them or speak with the customers, isn't that a problem? Given how much money GameStop is investing into their refurbishment center, and how wide the profit margins still are on used/refurbished systems, I would bet money this had nothing to do with repair costs, and everything to do with Microsoft wanting a better idea of genuine failure rates.


RE: There may be another reason
By gbed on 10/29/2007 1:36:56 PM , Rating: 2
Show me where HardOCP has lost any credibility statement!!! They fought infinium in court and WON. HardOCP is a website where the consumer (that means you)comes first. Their testing methodologies and reputation are rock solid.


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