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Pricing not yet announced for the service which is provided by AT&T

GM has announced that it has teamed up with AT&T to give customers internet access inside most of its 2015 model year vehicles (courtesy of an LTE modem). The partnership will allow AT&T customers add their vehicle as a device on a new or existing AT&T data plan.
 
The plan will also allow owners of LTE modem equipped vehicles to purchase access on an “as needed” basis, similar to what AT&T already allows with tablets such as Apple’s iPad.


Mom's daily ride will now give the kiddos internet access on the way to soccer practice
 
GM VP of Global Connected Consumer said during the Barclays Global Automotive Conference, "So we’re trying to make this as flexible as possible and as easy as possible to get the customer used to buying data connections inside of their vehicles."
 
GM and AT&T haven't announced pricing for the service, which is expected to be available in mid-2014. It should also be noted that the integrated AT&T service won't replace GM's OnStar service. 

Source: Detroit News





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Why?
By DaveLessnau on 11/13/2013 10:29:53 AM , Rating: 2
Title says it all. Why? Cars and internet shouldn't be associated with each other. Plus, since everyone and their dog has a smart phone, if they actually NEED to access the internet in the car, the passengers can use that cell phone.




RE: Why?
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 11/13/2013 10:32:04 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, doesn't make much sense to me either. Chances are, everyone in the car over the age of 10 probably has a smartphone anyway. And I'm sure that most can figure out how to tether if they have a laptop/tablet onboard.


RE: Why?
By kingmotley on 11/13/2013 11:32:25 AM , Rating: 5
So that the car can use internet services like google maps, pandora radio, get weather updates, real time traffic updates without having to come up with either a complicated system of a specialized app on the phone for each of those things and software in the car, or requiring phone purchasers to buy a mobile hotspot plan for their phones.

Some of those things are available over satellite with sirrus xm radio, but the plans suck, and the bandwidth sucks.


RE: Why?
By marvdmartian on 11/13/2013 1:50:02 PM , Rating: 2
I know it might be difficult to believe, but not everyone has a smart phone. Even more difficult to believe, not everyone WANTS one.

I have considered it, numerous times over the past few years, and have yet to come up with a single compelling reason to switch from my current phone and prepaid plan, to a smart phone with a plan that will likely run me 10x more per month (and no, I'm NOT exaggerating that figure).

Unlike so many people these days, I'm not addicted to being able to talk/text/web/app every waking moment of my life. Not putting anyone down who does....just saying it's not for me, and betting that's the case for plenty of people.


RE: Why?
By Spuke on 11/13/2013 2:25:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I know it might be difficult to believe, but not everyone has a smart phone. Even more difficult to believe, not everyone WANTS one.
What does this have to do with why internet shouldn't be in cars?


RE: Why?
By Jeffk464 on 11/13/2013 5:05:50 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, and I hate to be able find stores/restaurants and then navigate right to them.


RE: Why?
By kmmatney on 11/14/2013 12:11:38 AM , Rating: 2
You can still get a smart phone, and probably pay less than you do now, if you use Ting.


RE: Why?
By bsd228 on 11/14/2013 2:27:44 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I know it might be difficult to believe, but not everyone has a smart phone. Even more difficult to believe, not everyone WANTS one.


But this option is aimed at people who do, and very likely already have such service. And when you look at the cost of manufacturer installed GPS screens, it's about the most expensive way you could possibly get the service, and you're tied to that hardware for the life of the car. If you're leasing for 3 years, no big deal, but if you own for 10+, it makes no sense at all.


RE: Why?
By AlvinCool on 11/13/2013 10:45:28 AM , Rating: 2
At first I didn't get it, now I do. They added the ability to bounce signals off wifi towers to further enhance position marking for Onstar services. They are just offering it as a gesture.


RE: Why?
By DanNeely on 11/13/2013 1:40:27 PM , Rating: 2
Onstar's always been a cellular service and offered the ability to be added to your contract as a voice line for years. In two years time upgrading to an LTE modem will cost peanuts (and be needed for future proofing as 2/3g networks begin to be shut down anyway); allow GM to charge more for the "premium" feature while allowing ATT to get more money from a larger upsell than when onstar was voice only.


RE: Why?
By 91TTZ on 11/13/2013 2:35:15 PM , Rating: 3
Yeah, I was never a fan of gadgets inside of cars. Gadgets become outdated much more quickly than cars do so for half the car's life you're rolling around with electronics you never use.


RE: Why?
By Jeffk464 on 11/13/2013 5:07:55 PM , Rating: 3
Tell me about, my 2005 Tacoma is in perfect shape but came pre-gadgets.


RE: Why?
By Reclaimer77 on 11/13/2013 3:02:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Cars and internet shouldn't be associated with each other.


As a blanket statement, I would have to disagree. You didn't even bother to back this up. Why shouldn't they be?


RE: Why?
By croc on 11/14/2013 7:00:35 AM , Rating: 2
Because. The NSA said so. Your speakers are also microphones, you know. Your GPS connection is useful for tracking, your car's various computers NEED that connection to ask for new instructions. Whisper 'Snowden' and see what happens! You'll get the ride of your life!


RE: Why?
By flyingpants1 on 11/14/2013 12:53:30 PM , Rating: 2
Money


It would make more sense...
By Motoman on 11/13/2013 10:51:05 AM , Rating: 2
...to set up internet access with a satellite system in a car - granted that everyone already has a smartphone, one possible advantage to having satellite internet in your car would be continuous internet access while driving across vast rural areas with no cell service. And granted that satellite service is available essentially everywhere, you avoid the problem of coverage from one given cellular provider.

Having said that, I think the appeal is fairly low once you think about it...as noted by many, who doesn't have a smartphone with internet access these days? And there's a reasonable chance you could tether to it from your laptop or whatever on a long trip. Many people would so rarely venture into areas where their own cell phone has no service...

On the other hand, it certainly would be a pleasure to have internet service in the middle of Bumblef%ck, Nowhere. Maybe on a camping trip, say. Or if you've got a family, and a Suburban/Van or something, you can get one of those el cheapo DVD players with the dual screens (I've seen them as low as $50), have the kids bring the XBox along, and they can play all their XBox games during the entire trip...even the online stuff. And they'd probably therefore be quiet the whole damn time ;)




RE: It would make more sense...
By Motoman on 11/13/2013 10:52:07 AM , Rating: 2
Actually I should qualify that you can't really *game* online on a satellite connection...but at least chat and other social aspects would work.


RE: It would make more sense...
By DanNeely on 11/13/2013 2:32:20 PM , Rating: 2
The dishes used for satellite internet are as large as or larger than the ones your TV comes down on; they're too big to fit on a car. Also, unlike a cell antenna which is more or less an omnidirectional device satellite dishes are parabolic reflectors and need to be aimed directly at a satellite to get a signal. Maintaining a lock on a moving vehicle is not easy.


RE: It would make more sense...
By Motoman on 11/14/2013 4:08:57 PM , Rating: 2
Nah, they have in-motion satellite recievers for RVs and such that I know off the top of my head are only 5" high or so...and that's just an add-on thing you stick on yourself.

I'm sure that if GM wanted to integrate it smoothly into the top of an SUV they could do it.


One more reason
By Nutzo on 11/13/2013 10:30:45 AM , Rating: 1
Just one more (out of many) reasons why I'll never buy a GM.

Why tie the car to a single vendor that over half your customers don't use? How about just providing a blue tooth connection to connect to a cell phone instead?




RE: One more reason
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 11/13/2013 10:37:06 AM , Rating: 2
Just about every new car available today has Bluetooth standard.

With that said, I don't see why this particular feature would make you NOT want to buy a GM (even as you state you have tons of other reason); it's OPTIONAL.


RE: One more reason
By daboom06 on 11/13/2013 11:13:09 AM , Rating: 2
cars have bluetooth integration for music and phone, sure. why cars still dont have (and have never had) current electronic interfaces is beyond me.

a 5 inch screen and android 4.0 smartphone from the last two years... it'd cost less than the super expensive sat/nav units and actually be worth the price.

they might say they worry about reliability and lack of trust in the user to not screw up their car, but really. old people use android handsets just fine.

bricked headunit? drive it to a local dealership and have it fixed with a jtag.


Internet Access????
By AlvinCool on 11/13/2013 10:28:21 AM , Rating: 2
For the people buying new cars, I would bet almost all of them have access to wifi through their phones. Even for the ones that can't figure out how to tether without paying for it it would be cheaper to buy the tethering than to pay yet another internet charge that you can only use in your car.

So I guess this is just adding wifi to the onstar service?? Yet another feature nobody wants.




The car phone of this generation?
By Nortel on 11/13/2013 11:07:26 AM , Rating: 2
With 6GB phone data plans and hot spot generating devices the norm, this 'idea' makes zero sense. It is hard to even conceptualize how anyone thought this was a value added service... turning your car into one of those portable hot spot devices that fit in your pocket.




Awesome!
By Director12 on 11/13/2013 4:40:36 PM , Rating: 2
Now I can facetwit and shop EBAY as well as SMSing on my phone while driving. Gadgets, the gifts that keep on giving.




Why?
By NesuD on 11/14/2013 8:14:00 AM , Rating: 2
I already have internet access in any vehicle I am in and I can share it with everyone in the vehicle if I choose to. This is a feature who's time will never come. Practically no one will take this as an option unless it is forced on them as part of an options bundle.




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