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France creates new policy in attempt to battle casual piracy

As governments try to cope with illegal file sharing and piracy concerns, a new anti-piracy body in France may throw users who are caught pirating copyrighted content off the Internet. 

The plan would work under a "three strikes and you're out" system, with Internet service providers sending two warnings before the Internet service cut.  An independent panel supervised by a court official will be responsible for creating a system to determine when and how often a warning is sent to a file sharer.

According to the chairman of the French retail chain store FNAC, Denis Olivennes, music sales at FNAC has declined due to Internet file sharing.  Olivennes believes large monetary fines and prison sentences -- current French penalties for copyright infringement -- are "totally disproportionate."  He believes a ban on Internet is a more reasonable punishment, especially for the young people in the country.  The Syndicat National de l'Edition Phonographique (SNEP), the French equivalent of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), claims music sales have plummeted 40 percent over a four-year period starting in 2002.

The deal was described as a "decisive moment for the future of a civilized Internet," according to French President Nicolas Sarkozy.  "We run the risk of witnessing a genuine destruction of culture," he added.

Even though the movie and music industries applauded the idea, other politicians and consumer groups believe the initiative could end up being too restrictive.  The initiative is "very tough, potentially destructive of freedom, anti-economic and against digital history," the UFC Que Choisir consumer group announced in a statement.

As pressure mounts by official music and movie studios trying to combat piracy, governments have been weary to create initiatives to try and prevent piracy by regular users.  The French idea is better suited to combat piracy on a small scale on a user-to-user basis, rather than organized piracy rings.


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Tangible music sales are dead
By SeeManRun on 11/24/2007 12:15:34 PM , Rating: 5
The sale of physical CD's is nearly dead and is being reduced to a niche market. The music industry is getting governments to punish consumers for their inefficiencies and lack of ability to change. The movie 'Other People's Money' has an excellent speech at the end that could perfectly be used to describe the music industry today. They are near death and will die unless they change.




RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By Flunk on 11/24/2007 12:29:06 PM , Rating: 5
With todays technology artists can bypass the record companies entirely and sell directly online. 100% of the price of a download looks a lot better than a 5% CD royalty.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By Regs on 11/24/2007 3:56:32 PM , Rating: 4
Agreed. Especially when the Internet could used for a powerful marketing tool. If you're not into the wave of new aged rock music or r&b (where the singers just scream and the lyrics lack any meaning or purpose) there's not much out there that helps users find what music they like.

I'm one of those "rare" music fans that don't like what's popular. If the music is not in "in-thing" then publishers and agencies do not use any of their countless millions on making it known, but countless millions on lobbying on pirates.

Either way, I'm more worried about pirates for the PC game industry. At least games are more easily reviewed before launch and a lot more easier to judge good or bad before you buy. I see no excuse for pirating a game. "Well, I never liked Far Cry so I'll pirate it". Makes no f'ing sense to me. As for music, it's a waste of money more than half the time.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By Axbattler on 11/25/2007 9:44:39 PM , Rating: 5
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I'm one of those "rare" music fans that don't like what's popular.

Whatever float your boat, but I never got the "don't like what's popular" attitude. I listen to what I enjoy, irrespective whether it's played on MTV (that I don't have) 24/7 or an obscure independent artist I come across by sheer coincidence. The fact that an artist is independent does not make them good in my book, and I'd say that the opposite is also true. And what if a previously unknown artist eventually make it big?


By mikeyD95125 on 11/25/2007 11:09:24 PM , Rating: 3
With the label you get promo and a studio. Not saying you have to be on a sell out label. I know in the Bay Area Asian Man Records is a great label not looking to rob you for your talent.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By TomCorelis (blog) on 11/24/2007 4:48:07 PM , Rating: 5
And away with CD's means away with fair use. DRM for everyone!

Thank god the music companies are finally figuring out that nobody likes their DRM...

No more CD's also means no more high quality, uncompressed music. iTunes' bitrates are pathetic, and over quality speakers an iTunes song sounds so bad that my ears feel violated. Whatever happened to actual progress?! Where are my 96khz, 32-bit CDs? What happened to DVD Audio? Wait, that's right, people are too lazy to actually GO OUT and buy anything.

Give me lossless! Give me DRM-free!

Is that really so much to ask?


By Sunday Ironfoot on 11/24/2007 5:16:57 PM , Rating: 2
Agree 100%. That's why the CD is still the best format out there, there's no DRM, it's the best quality and can be recorded into any digital audio format out there (MP3, AAC, WMV etc.) and be played back on any music playback device.

CD ftw!!


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By jajig on 11/24/2007 7:16:58 PM , Rating: 2
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No more CD's also means no more high quality, uncompressed music.


I can't argue the compressed part but there is nothing wrong with the quality of FLAC encoded music. It's lossless, DRM free and convenient.

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What happened to DVD Audio? Wait, that's right, people are too lazy to actually GO OUT and buy anything.


I've tried to buy DVD audio before but have never found it in the shops (I'm not from the US maybe it's different there). I also wouldn't call someone buying something in a more convenient way lazy. You could use the same logic calling someone lazy from buying their meat from the butcher rather than catching their own cow and slaughtering it.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By Bruce 1337 on 11/25/2007 3:45:23 AM , Rating: 3
Agreed. The biggest problem to come out of file-sharing/iTunes is lowered expectations of quality. People decided that 128kps was "good enough" if it was free. And that notion changed peoples attitude towards what a music file should be. Now, low quality AAC is okay since it's convenient and "only" costs 99 cents. I tell my friends I won't pay that much unless it's loseless and they think I'm being some kind of elitist snob.

While the rest of the consumer electronics world is pushing HD everything, music has actually taken a step backwards in terms of resolution, and everyone seems okay with that. We all want 1080P TVs, but CD quality (a standard I've been listening to for 20 years), hasn't improved in the mainstream market.

I know there's FLAC, and SACD, etc, but there is still no consumer demand for high quality music, which is strange and sad.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By Christopher1 on 11/25/07, Rating: -1
RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By Xerstead on 11/25/2007 1:37:26 PM , Rating: 3
If I was listening through small desktop speakers I couldn't tell the difference either. But I'm not. I have my PC conected to my AV system for sound. Even using an X-fi Prelude with a digital coax cable the difference between a low bitrate rip and a CD is noticable and does make a difference. Suggest you get your hearing checked.
How is HD video different? A higher bit-rate for the audio, as with video, allows for more information to be stored/re-created and give a more detailed sound.
I have seen several of the same model TV's in stores with much different picture quality from excellent to really bad, all from a HD feed. I have also seen SD DVD's which look far better than some of the HD displays in stores. Different stores set-up (or don't) the tv's differently. I fully agree HD video can give a far better image than SD but the The brightness/contrast and colours are more dependant on the TV's settings not whether it is a SD or HD display.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By brenatevi on 11/25/2007 10:22:42 PM , Rating: 2
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Even using an X-fi Prelude with a digital coax cable the difference between a low bitrate rip and a CD is noticable and does make a difference. Suggest you get your hearing checked.
Yet, how many people have a setup like that? Therefor, how many people can tell the difference between 128kbs and CD quality? For the average listener, there isn't a difference.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By DeepBlue1975 on 11/26/2007 7:52:57 AM , Rating: 2
That the average user can't tell the difference doesn't mean it does not exist.

I have good desktop speakers, I use the on board HD audio my motherboard has through the Intel p35 chipset, and I can definitely tell the difference between 128kbps and 192kbps encoded mp3s.
Over 192kbps, I can't tell the difference between bit rates (not even comparing to audio cds), but my speakers are not that good and neither the integrated audio (which to me is sounding as good as my old audigy 2 zs did, and so I ended up selling it to keep just the integrated solution).

So, I'm no audiophile and I'm not out there looking for the greatest audio solution, but I can tell the difference between normal bit rate and high bit rate encoding.

The sole fact that I can tell a difference even in a "just good" set up makes me snob?
If so, then I guess I am. People who like calling names after nothing have the right to do so if that is what pleases them, after all.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By heffeque on 11/26/2007 9:00:19 AM , Rating: 2
128 Kbps of AAC is better than 128 Kbps of MP3, but... I have to agree, the 256 Kbps AAC that Apple is selling on iTunes is virtually identical to a non-compressed one.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By Spivonious on 11/26/2007 10:37:27 AM , Rating: 2
I guess I'm a snob too. 128Kbps versus a CD is a world of difference. Of course, with a lot of the pop stuff these days, it is hard to tell the difference, but put in some classical stuff and then tell me there's no difference. Any form of compression just kills all dynamics in the music.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By Parhel on 11/26/2007 2:57:18 PM , Rating: 2
I had all of my music stored at 192kbps WMA format. My hard drive crashed and I had to re-rip my CDs, so I ripped them as lossless WMA. I thought the difference was night and day. And I'm no audiophile. Typically I listen to my music on a $30 pair of headphones, and sometimes on my $400 stereo.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By mindless1 on 11/26/2007 10:57:34 AM , Rating: 2
Nonsense, the difference is plain as day if you plug any decent $60 pair of headphones into a run-of-the-mill PC sound card, or run even that analog output to a reasonably good stereo instead of some crap plastic PC speaker set.


RE: Tangible music sales are dead
By stonemetal on 11/25/2007 7:15:26 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry, no moving from SD to HD means a change in resolution if the picture becomes brighter or more colorful then you need to adjust the settings on your tv. What you should be looking for is changes in "crispness" not brightness or color range.