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Workers would have to pass a three-month evaluation

Foxconn is the company that manufactures some of the most popular gadgets on the market including the Apple iPhone and the iPad. Over the last several months, Foxconn has seen an uptick in suicides among its workers that have led to concerns over conditions at the factory.

Bloomberg
 reported earlier this month that one worker at the Foxconn factory described life as "meaningless" and "very tough" at the factory. In an attempt to provide better pay and working conditions for workers at the factory, Apple cut its own profits by 0.7 percent to give the workers at the factory a raise of about 30 percent. After the raise, the workers at the factory made a meager $172 a month.

Foxconn has announced that it is now offering its workers up to a 66 percent increase in pay if they can pass a performance evaluation. The pay raise would require a three-month evaluation and if the worker passes, they would get the raise to 2,000 yuan per month. The 2,000 yuan monthly pay works out to about $293 here in the United States.

Foxconn founder and chairman Terry Gou said, "This wage increase has been instituted to safeguard the dignity of workers, accelerate economic transformation, support Foxconn's long-term objective of continued evolution from a manufacturing leader to a technology leader, and to rally and sustain the best of our workforce."

He continued saying, "We are working diligently to ensure that our workplace standards and remuneration not only continue to meet the rapidly changing needs of our employees, but that they are best in class."

Reuters reports that so far this year ten workers at the Foxconn factory in Longhua, China have killed themselves. All of the ten workers were reportedly migrant workers that left the poor areas of China to find work.



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Well that is one way to work them to death.
By PAPutzback on 6/7/2010 9:49:00 AM , Rating: 5
The suicides are just going to start coming faster. How about they just give them raises and limit the max hours they can work.




RE: Well that is one way to work them to death.
By quiksilvr on 6/7/2010 10:39:13 AM , Rating: 2
Because its a communist dictatorship country and not a free market?


By PAPutzback on 6/7/2010 10:47:39 AM , Rating: 5
Which the US greatly supports every time we buy their products and make them that much stronger.


RE: Well that is one way to work them to death.
By gamerk2 on 6/7/10, Rating: 0
By MrBlastman on 6/7/2010 11:21:06 AM , Rating: 4
You make it sound so easy--like jobs are handed out like candy in China. Go back to living in your bubble.

News Flash: Life is tough in China and alternatively they could work in rice paddies all day long. These people are easily exploited because they are desperate to try and move up in the world.


By HrilL on 6/7/2010 3:56:53 PM , Rating: 2
From what I've read joining Foxcon is like joining the Military. You sign up for a given amount of time. You're not free to leave at your choosing. China doesn't have laws that protect you from signing your rights away. The little rights they do have in China that is.


By Klinky1984 on 6/7/2010 11:58:04 AM , Rating: 5
That is rich! "Capitalist" US corporations are a big contractor to these companies that exploit the Chinese people. The "Global Economy" is a joke, it is essentially a race to find the easiest to exploit people. It's sad to realize the the 1st worlds comforts of life comes off the backs of those in the 3rd world.

Eventually this will end or who knows, maybe we'll be the ones being exploited? If we aren't already are.


By jeff834 on 6/7/2010 4:15:53 PM , Rating: 3
Well communist dictatorship is no good, but when the US was a fully "free market" things weren't really any better. Until the government stepped in with regulations and made laws allowing for unions and such working conditions were even worse than at this place. Neither extreme works you need something in the middle.


Question
By WinstonSmith on 6/7/2010 9:48:46 AM , Rating: 5
Q: How do you know when you're being ripped off blind.
A: When your wages can be increased by 66% overnight.




RE: Question
By MrBlastman on 6/7/2010 9:56:00 AM , Rating: 3
What is humorous is that now they have pass a "performance evaluation."

So I think the guy who was worked to death the other week that worked a 36-hour shift followed by a 12-hour one will become a bit more frequent. That, or Foxconn employees randomly being found shoved into heavy machinery as others murder them to make their performance look better.

I'm all for performance based pay, but in this situation, like you mention, with how easily Foxconn can raise their pay it just alludes to the bigger problem: Foxconn is making millions off of these people wasting their lives away in the factories.


RE: Question
By hr824 on 6/7/2010 2:31:35 PM , Rating: 2
No kidding, and since it works out to 38 cents an hour. It will hardy change the cost of anything they make either. I don't know how many widgets each worker works on an hour but if it's over 38 the raise is less then 1 penny per item, I doubt the cost of an IPhone will even go up a dollar.

On a side note I listen to NPR and Bill Gates has this wonderful commercial touting that "everyone deserves healthy and productive life".....I guess when he meant was, healthy and productive so that they can be exploited to make Xbox 360s.


RE: Question
By Jedi2155 on 6/7/2010 7:20:44 PM , Rating: 2
I've heard from relatives that the cost of living in China is roughly 1/7th that of the US, meaning that the buying power in China for 38 cents/hour is equivalent to roughly $2.66/hour here. That's roughly 1/3rd the purchasing power of the minimum wage here.


RE: Question
By NuclearDelta on 6/7/2010 4:56:59 PM , Rating: 2
I have a feeling the evaluation process will have all the prestige and compliance clarity of a mail in rebate.


RE: Question
By YashBudini on 6/8/2010 12:41:00 AM , Rating: 2
I was thinking the Spanish Inquisition.


Nice !
By Soulkeeper on 6/7/2010 10:55:31 AM , Rating: 3
Sounds great, I should go work there.




RE: Nice !
By gamerk2 on 6/7/2010 11:18:42 AM , Rating: 3
Why not? The US had a simmilar work/pay system until the late 1900's, so I fail to see the problem. The US went through the same phase of long hours and low pay, after all.


RE: Nice !
By Klinky1984 on 6/7/2010 12:08:16 PM , Rating: 5
What's that over there? Oh that's just China going through it's child & slave labor phase, all countries do it, just ignore it...


Chainwork
By Stiggero on 6/7/2010 10:29:35 AM , Rating: 2
They are doing chainwork, how the hell are they supposed to be more performant? They can't work faster, neither slower, the only way to be more performant is to increase their crazy 72h work-week.




RE: Chainwork
By rodrigu3 on 6/7/2010 11:00:25 AM , Rating: 1
Granted, these people are basically performing slave labor, residents and medical students in this country frequently work >80hrs a week for little money - at least compared to other professions. Based on an average resident salary of $50,000 a year, that ends up being a maximum of $12 an hour gross, and lets not even mention the >$100,000 loan that has to be repaid. And this is only for residents - medical students work just as many hours and have to pay tuition to do so. So a 72-hour work week is not crazy in terms of the number of hours, but I can see how working at an assembly line for that long without breaks or incentive can be dangerous.


RE: Chainwork
By boobo on 6/7/2010 2:11:14 PM , Rating: 2
Even under the assumption that $12 in the US is comparable to $0.60 in China (I know a few residents who do own an iphone), medical residents have something to look forward to. They know that they are slaving away for a few years in order to become part of one of the most profitable and the single most respected profession in the country.

The Foxconn workers have nowhere to go from there. They know that they will be working the same number of hours, in the same conditions, for the same pay for the rest of their lives, if they're lucky. If they happened to lose the Foxconn job, it would only be considerably worse. That is what affects their psychology so deeply.


RE: Chainwork
By joex444 on 6/7/10, Rating: 0
wtf
By Chiisuchianu on 6/7/2010 7:45:08 PM , Rating: 2
Performance based pay?! That's racism! Someone call the unions! Someone call the ACLU! Oh wait, this is China. Wait... wtf? China more capitalist and more of a meritocracy than the USA?

WHAT HAS LIBERALISM DONE?!




RE: wtf
By YashBudini on 6/8/2010 12:39:18 AM , Rating: 2
Oh yeah, Enron, Halliburton, Wall St, lots of merit there.

Can somebody TARP this guy a clue?


Solution
By Spivonious on 6/7/2010 9:54:19 AM , Rating: 3
China needs to let the Yuan be on its own instead of fixed to USD.




2160-hour evaluation
By HomerTNachoCheese on 6/7/2010 10:53:03 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Workers would have to pass a three-month evaluation


In other words...

Workers would have to pass a 2,160-hour evaluation - straight work with no overtime, to get a 66% increase in pay. And as a bonus, they get a one-year membership to the "Jelly of the Month Club."




meagre?
By violist on 6/7/2010 11:48:20 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
...meager $172 a month

Yes, that may seem ridiculous and meagre to you compared to your salary. But in China, $172 is more than enough to live a very comfortable life. Not to mention it is nearly the same as the pay of some office workers.
We have to remember that the workers of Foxconn are mostly "unskilled", that is not a bad deal compared to some jobs for illegal immigrants in some developed countries where although they earn $800, they cannot live remotely the same life as they do in China with $172.
While I oppose any kind of sweatshops anywhere in the world, but this kind of misinformed statistic only spreads ignorance.




For "Violist"- u are just an !d!ot
By Romion on 6/8/2010 7:33:41 AM , Rating: 2
meagre?
By violist on 6/7/10, Rating: 3
By violist on 6/7/2010 11:48:20 AM , Rating: 3

quote:
...meager $172 a month

Yes, that may seem ridiculous and meagre to you compared to your salary. But in China, $172 is more than enough to live a very comfortable life. Not to mention it is nearly the same as the pay of some office workers.
We have to remember that the workers of Foxconn are mostly "unskilled", that is not a bad deal compared to some jobs for illegal immigrants in some developed countries where although they earn $800, they cannot live remotely the same life as they do in China with $172.
While I oppose any kind of sweatshops anywhere in the world, but this kind of misinformed statistic only spreads ignorance.
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Violist, u are just a stup!d cretinoid. Just an example of the typical ppl that doesnt know anything but likes to write comments. Im working in Romania and I can tell u for sure that your judgement is bad, vvvvvery bad and has nothing to do with reality. U know, Im an engineer and doen not afford to buy a stupid iPhone. I guess that u already changed 5 because the color doesnt fit nicely with weather.




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