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Foxconn to employees: Please promise not to kill yourselves. Sign here.  (Source: Shanghaiist)
Letter comes after yet another employee jumped/fell

A thirteenth employee jumped/fell from a high roof or ledge at Foxconn's Shenzhen factory in rural China.  The young woman reportedly survived and Foxconn is disputing reports that she meant to take her life.

The factory in Shenzhen assembles Apple's the majority of Apple's iPads, iPhones, and iPods – it also produces products for HP and Dell among other manufacturers.  After a string of suicides, Apple has become alarmed and has pressured Foxconn to seek solutions to stop the deaths.

The deaths are not unusual when compared to rural China's average suicide rates, which are among the world's highest.  However, they are unusual for Chinese factories, which typically feature lower suicide rates.  For example, last year all of Foxconn's factory towns had only 3 reported suicides, one of which involved the suspicious death of an employee who lost an iPhone prototype.

In addition to Buddhist music, religious counseling, and an anger room (with dummies to beat on with bats), Foxconn reportedly has adopted yet another tactic -- having employees sign a letter promising not to kill themselves.  The letter reads [translated]:

A Letter to Foxconn Colleagues
Dear Colleagues:
We enthusiastically welcome you to the Foxconn Technology Co. family!
To wish you happiness in crossing this career milestone into a great stage in your life, Foxconn has provided you with this: A workplace environment that will help you gain experience and wisdom; complete living facilities; various entertainment venues, learning and sports facilities, and activities; as well as a service staff that will help resolve difficulties.
Please know:
1. If you or your colleagues come across frustrations, grievances, embarrassments in your work, daily activities, schooling, feelings, family life, or health, you can ask for help by calling our "Worker Care Center" hotline: 78585 (phonetically it sounds like "Please help me, help me"). The company will arrange a professional to help you or your colleague solve your problems. If your reports on your colleagues helps prevent an accident, the company will provide an adequate reward.
2. If you have other non-urgent problems, you can also contact the Complaints hotline: 15000, trade union hotline: 81111, employee suggestion box, and the trade union mailbox to make a report. The company will also dispatch a professional to solve the issue.
At the same time, please understand:
1. The company respects operational and management law, and respects and cares about the staff.
2. The way the company deals with employee accidents is based in national law and is in accordance with regulations, as well as the principles of the corporation and humane care. As for the accidents to employees (including suicide, self-mutilation, etc.), the company cannot pay more than what is regulated, but will actively cooperate with government departments according to the laws of compensation and will work out a reasonable pension.
The company is attaching importance to prevention programs, and will continue their expansion. As a reminder, the company has especially drafted this letter for you to sign.
Finally, wish you a smooth career and happy life with the Foxconn family!
Foxconn Technology Co.
May 2010
I am aware of the contents of the open letter as well as the variety of services and care the company is providing. I promise the following:
1. If I encounter problems and difficulties after entering the company, I will ask for help from the "Employee Care Center" and other related departments.
2. In terms of my own responsibilities, if I have great difficulties or frustrations I will reach out to relatives to resolve them or report them to the company director, I will also agree to contact and communicate with colleagues, personal staff and relatives. However, I will not harm myself or others; I agree that, in order for the company to protect me and others, it can send me to a hospital should I exhibit abnormal physical or mental problems.
3. In the event of non-accidental injuries (including suicide, self mutilation, etc.), I agree that the company has acted properly in accordance with relevant laws and regulations, and will not sue the company, bring excessive demands, take drastic actions that would damage the company's reputation or cause trouble that would hurt normal operations.
I confirm that I have read and am aware of these issues
________________ (signature)
Employee number:
Residence number:

Foxconn employees are reportedly a bit nervous about the letter, as they worry that it will give their supervisors grounds to have them committed to a mental hospital if they disagree with them.  They may not have much choice in the matter, though; under pressure from Apple, at this point Foxconn is willing to try just about anything to stamp out the suicide trend.

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By quiksilvr on 5/27/2010 4:18:08 PM , Rating: 4
I mean...really?

RE: Seriously?
By alanore on 5/27/2010 4:27:21 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, it shows a complete lack of understanding from Foxcon.

RE: Seriously?
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/2010 4:31:04 PM , Rating: 5
They understand just fine. They just DON'T care! A suicide isn't a loss of human to them, it's the loss of that humans production.

RE: Seriously?
By FaaR on 5/27/2010 4:40:21 PM , Rating: 5
They don't actually care all that much even about the loss of production; there's hundreds of millions of potential replacements available to them if some of their workers kill themselves.

No, what they worry about is the loss of FACE. That's all. Because that could actually cost them money, and a lot of it.

RE: Seriously?
By MrBlastman on 5/27/2010 4:42:43 PM , Rating: 1
If they were so worried about loss of FACE they wouldn't have drafted a letter like this that could be given to the press and show up on places like DT.

They've already lost the FACE, and I don't think they care. They want their monies, soaked in blood or not. I think they would rather not because it costs a bit to remove blood clots from hard coins.

RE: Seriously?
By Gul Westfale on 5/27/2010 4:58:22 PM , Rating: 5
what if i break my promise and kill myself? are they gonna fire me?


RE: Seriously?
By Chernobyl68 on 5/27/2010 5:31:32 PM , Rating: 2
yeah, I couldn't help but laugh when I saw that headline. How do you enforce a promise not to kill youself? 8p

RE: Seriously?
By clovell on 5/27/2010 5:39:30 PM , Rating: 2
Then you're just dead. And your family is legally bound to not sue the company - from the sounds of it.

RE: Seriously?
By StevoLincolnite on 5/27/2010 7:08:41 PM , Rating: 2
Then you're just dead. And your family is legally bound to not sue the company - from the sounds of it.

Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't most of the families that have relatives working for Foxconn not be able to pay the legal expenses to sue Foxconn in the first place? - I don't know much about the Chinese legal system.

RE: Seriously?
By MadMan007 on 5/27/2010 9:45:24 PM , Rating: 2
No, the form only applies to the individual signing it from the language. Chinese law would determine whether relatives could sue and even if the letter did include such a clause if it goes against Chinese law then it might be invalid.

RE: Seriously?
By heiwashin on 5/27/2010 11:02:57 PM , Rating: 5
And China is all about human rights.

RE: Seriously?
By clovell on 5/28/2010 10:40:29 AM , Rating: 2
To be fair, I was partially wrong - it's not about whether there's a 'right to sue' - it's about letting the employees know that Foxconn has no intent of paying their families.

RE: Seriously?
By Dr of crap on 5/28/2010 9:07:25 AM , Rating: 3
You're all forgetting this is in China, not the US.
They have to many people to care.
There are not the same rules that govern themselves there.
And they probably don't have the same labor laws there.
So, this might be a more "normal" thing for them, just liek flogging people in the Middle East!

RE: Seriously?
By inperfectdarkness on 5/28/2010 8:51:39 AM , Rating: 2
i concur. policy mirrors what china's government does. it's been a long-upheld view that it's cheaper to pay damages to the families of mining fatalities than it is to actually revamp the system for safety purposes.

saving face is the only thing that they really care about.

RE: Seriously?
By DEVGRU on 5/27/2010 5:57:28 PM , Rating: 5
2. If you have other non-urgent problems, you can also contact the Complaints hotline: 15000 .... The company will also dispatch a professional to solve the issue.

Don't forget kids! Hitman: Foxconn , comming soon!

RE: Seriously?
By thekdub on 5/28/2010 1:11:39 AM , Rating: 2
Oddly enough, the last Hitman game ended with 47 discussing "business" with a Chinese man...

RE: Seriously?
By carniver on 5/27/2010 4:49:38 PM , Rating: 2
> it's the loss of that humans production.
No, they have lots of manpower. All they care is their reputation

Used to be that the only way out of the torture is suicide. Now that's not even an option

RE: Seriously?
By thekatar2 on 5/27/2010 6:55:56 PM , Rating: 5
Sorry guys, you guys are completely wrong about this.

Hon Hai pays 100k RMB ($15,000) to the families of each employee that dies on the job by accident, etc. This also included suicide, well until now. This letter is basically a written contract saying we arent going to pay your family $15k if you kill yourself. I think it's going to stop the suicides in a hurry.

$15k may seem like a paltry amount over here, but it works out to around 8.5 years worth of income for the rural workers who come to the factory from inland China. It would go a long way to help their families finanically. Other smaller less-known companies do not offer that same payment. So bascially, if you are in a situation where your famlily is in a very tough spot and you are willing to take your life so they can get 8.5 years worth of income, you definetly want to get a job a Foxconn. Now, I am not saying all of the suicides were financially motivated, but I am sure some of them were. So what about the rest then?

Well, the suicide rate at the company is still a fraction of the average in China. Assuming we get to 20 ppl this year (out of 800k total employees) yields us a rate of 2.5 suicides per 100k. The Chinese national average is 14 per 100k, Hong Kong is 15.2 out of 100k. We would need to see one suicide at Hon Hai every 3 days for a full year before they get clost to the national average.So think rationally for a sec and let the facts speak for themselves.

Oh yea I should mention, through my job I actually got to spend a day touring that facility in Shenzhen. So I am not some idiot poster who knows nothing. The place is 10x nicer than the surroungind area. The place has tons of ammenities from shopping, restaurants, clubs, medical, dating services, even a communist party office on site. Employees are allowed to come and go as they please. People were walking in and out of the gates the whole time we were there. You just have to see it to understand. Just imagine 100,000 19 - 24 year olds (roughly 65% female 35% male) clustered into 20 city blocks. Like a giant college campus. The atmostphere (socially) felt more like a college campus.

RE: Seriously?
By chick0n on 5/27/10, Rating: 0
RE: Seriously?
By clovell on 5/27/2010 4:57:25 PM , Rating: 4
> Yeah, it shows a complete lack of understanding from Foxcon.

What is it that Foxconn is supposed to understand? I'm having trouble seeing the fault in all this. The company makes clear that your family will not benefit from your suicide or attemptd suicide and offers other less destructive options.

I'm not trying to be a d!ck, but... what did I miss?

RE: Seriously?
By afkrotch on 5/27/2010 8:37:21 PM , Rating: 2
I never understand why these ppl just don't quit, if apparently it's so hard to work there.

Guess killing yourself for money is their better option.

RE: Seriously?
By smilingcrow on 5/27/2010 4:52:31 PM , Rating: 4
iJump because I can.

RE: Seriously?
By chris00 on 5/28/2010 4:59:38 AM , Rating: 2
Ah, the wonders of capitalism.
But having an iPhone is worth it. Isn't it?

RE: Seriously?
By marvdmartian on 5/28/2010 9:50:55 AM , Rating: 5
Foxconn should be glad their factory isn't in America, where disgruntled workers tend to want to come in, shoot & kill others first, THEN kill themselves!

By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/10, Rating: 0
RE: Upset
By gamerk2 on 5/27/10, Rating: 0
RE: Upset
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/10, Rating: -1
RE: Upset
By adiposity on 5/27/10, Rating: 0
RE: Upset
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/10, Rating: 0
RE: Upset
By adiposity on 5/27/2010 6:32:26 PM , Rating: 5
I didn't say I disagreed with you, I just am pointing out that it's not consistent to say, "don't use this to push an agenda." Human rights are important, I think we can agree. But you used it as an excuse to criticize communism, and you are surprised when someone pops up saying, "nuh uh, it's capitalism that's the problem"?

I don't blame capitalism here, obviously it has to do with the totalitarian regime in China. But don't attack a political philosophy and then say, "and don't use this emotional event to push political viewpoints." It's absurd.

RE: Upset
By Reclaimer77 on 5/27/10, Rating: -1
RE: Upset
By chick0n on 5/27/2010 10:38:15 PM , Rating: 1
That simply means you have no idea what exactly is going on.

1/2 of those people killed themselves simply because Foxconn will "PAY THEM 100K for death, regardless of reason, even suicide"

The other 1/2, well, they just can't stand the working pace/pressure there. Sucks to be them.

People have to work there 12 hours a day, that sound like a lot, but consider they're getting 3000 RMB a month (mind you, thats a LOT in China and most of those workers didn't even finish grade school)

and dont blame everything on the Chinese government. You sir Americans did a lot of dirty shit behind the scene at ALL times ---- you just dont know it, USA is good a masking shit.

RE: Upset
By thekatar2 on 5/27/2010 7:09:29 PM , Rating: 4
Here is a suggestion for everybody who is outraged at the working conditions at Foxconn:

Dont buy any more mobile phones, pc's, game machines, tablets, or desktop computers - unless they are 100% made in the USA. Now it will cost you around 2x what you currently pay because of higher labor costs, benefits, taxes, smaller economies of scale, etc. But I am sure thats not a problem for you. Whats another $500 on top of a $600 iPhone right?

RE: Upset
By Danish1 on 5/28/10, Rating: -1
RE: Upset
By knutjb on 5/28/2010 2:42:39 PM , Rating: 3
Of course not, the people who wrote your bible was smart enough to make suicide a sin to keep you doing your shitty job.
Think about that for a second.

Your analogy is so disconnected from reality perhaps you should seek counseling to work it out...

RE: Upset
By Danish1 on 5/29/2010 8:43:54 AM , Rating: 2
No it's just you missing the point, or not wanting to understand it because you also believe said 2000 years old book is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

RE: Upset
By dark matter on 5/30/2010 5:56:31 AM , Rating: 2
As much as I disagree with Reclaimer77's views, I do acknowledge them and actually bother to take the time to read them and not once, not once anywhere did her mention the bible or anything else related to religion in his posts.

He was talking about politics, capitalism and communism. If anything it is you who is the religious fundamentalist and not he. For you are the only one who sees' religion being mentioned where there is no mention of it. You are suffering from delusion.

RE: Upset
By Danish1 on 5/30/2010 7:19:27 AM , Rating: 2
Grats, I don't know how you managed to become so thick, but you did.

RE: Upset
By YashBudini on 6/2/10, Rating: 0
RE: Upset
By clovell on 5/27/2010 4:54:49 PM , Rating: 2
You would, but you didn't. At least not well enough to continue talking about such a stupid f*$king arguement.

RE: Upset
By MeesterNid on 5/27/2010 4:57:15 PM , Rating: 3
Capitalism and free market has choice built-in by default which makes your assertion of forced overtime null and void, i.e. you can't force people to do something without them choosing to accept it.

It's frankly dumbfounding that haven seen multiple examples of socialist systems fail people actually believe that politicians who pander that type of a system actually care about the constituents rather than their own personal (and inevitably ultimate) power. I was born and lived in the USSR and experienced this proletarian utopia first hand...I'm gonna pass this time.

RE: Upset
By Chocobollz on 5/28/2010 9:12:49 AM , Rating: 1
Capitalism and free market has choice built-in by default

Choices? Like:
1. Work for us and die painfully, or
2. Don't work for us and die slowly

Is that really an option?

RE: Upset
By knutjb on 5/28/2010 2:38:05 PM , Rating: 2
Dude read some history. Its obvious you have a twisted understanding of what's going on. Say US 1912-1924 and 1928-1945. Then explain why the amendment was so easily passed to limit presidential terms. Add the Constitution and John Locke's The Second Treatise of Civil Government to required reading since they are all conspicuously missing from the public school system.

Choices? Like: 1. Work for us and die painfully, or 2. Don't work for us and die slowly Is that really an option?

You present false choices that are distinctly analogous of a very liberal public education accepted as the gospel truth.

In Capitalism you do have a choice if you don't like your job quit and get another one. In Socialism, Communism, Marxism, et al you work where "their" testing says you belong and nowhere else.

China is going through a massive paradigm clash from a communist's lack of understanding to the foreign idea of capitalism combined with the desire for ALL the money generated by it. The two, Capitalism and Communism,or Marxism, or Socialism, or Social-Democracy, etc... have directly contradicting ideas that when combined cause great turmoil that will end with one or the other collapsing. Only Capitalism can create net economic growth, the others tend to be zero-sum economies.

It's all about power and who controls it. Foxconn is merely the symptom of a pending internal clash of political ideologies. But if you think Chinese Communism is so wonderful you need to read up on it and the Soviet revolution too as they are another criminal omission from the public school system.

RE: Upset
By YashBudini on 6/1/2010 11:09:41 PM , Rating: 2
"Capitalism and free market has choice built-in by default which makes your assertion of forced overtime null and void, i.e. you can't force people to do something without them choosing to accept it."

Making a choice under duress is not a real choice. Even idiot lawyers can understand that one.

RE: Upset
By omnicronx on 5/27/2010 5:01:43 PM , Rating: 2
I'd argue this is exactly what Capitalism leads to: Workers who are not paid adequetly for their work, forced overtime, etc. All so the business can host a bigger profit.
Are you serious? Foxxcon pays these people pennies, nor are their production costs even close to that of overseas.

And not adequately paid? Where do you live? Furthermore, ever heard of a little thing called a Union? Let alone labor laws? Do you realize how many people would love to get paid overtime? Its not like you are doing it for free, most states countries etc.. pay time and a half over a certain amount of hours.

RE: Upset
By Anoxanmore on 5/27/2010 4:43:48 PM , Rating: 2
I can haz ur luvs? <3

RE: Upset
By chick0n on 5/27/10, Rating: 0
RE: Upset
By Reclaimer77 on 5/28/2010 10:32:14 AM , Rating: 2
Well I think this thread proved that, without a doubt, the majority of people rating posts are complete idiots. The fact that you can't stand up and speak the obvious truth about something as crippling as Communism without getting -1's is pathetic.

RE: Upset
By YashBudini on 6/1/2010 11:45:38 PM , Rating: 2
Gee I dunno, Goldman Sachs has done a pretty good job of crippling, and they aren't communists.

By MrBlastman on 5/27/2010 4:19:42 PM , Rating: 2
Now when an employee acts up, Foxconn can hold that contract over their heads. If this were Japan, they would honorably give themselves a papercut and bleed to death with the contract.

In China, that would be a violation. I guess we will stop seeing guys dropped from roofs and now throats being slit by a mysterious, thin but sharp object. ;)

One big question though... What happens if they DO manage to kill themselves and violate their terms of employment... what can Foxconn do to them?

Oh wait, I forgot... Chinese secret police (bribed by Foxconn) will take care of their families. ;)

RE: Great...
By Obujuwami on 5/27/2010 4:21:28 PM , Rating: 2
Curses, you beat me to the point!

RE: Great...
By clovell on 5/27/2010 4:51:50 PM , Rating: 2
The way I read the letter, the point is to discourage employees from suicide by legally informing them that their survivors won't be able to sue the company.

The company then explains the recourses available to the employees - such as counseling. Theories seem to be abounding in the comments section at DT, but I really don't think there's much else to it.

RE: Great...
By chick0n on 5/27/10, Rating: 0
RE: Great...
By YashBudini on 6/1/2010 11:11:50 PM , Rating: 2
Well said, well spoken. Just chock full of facts.

OK, not really.

By Lifted on 5/27/2010 11:06:20 PM , Rating: 1
Shenzhen is now considered rural? These articles keep getting better and better.

RE: Rural?
By theoverseer on 5/27/2010 11:26:12 PM , Rating: 2
the term rural is referring to the areas most of factory workers are coming from.

besides, it is not because your migrant employees live in block of concrete that they suddenly are full fledged urban citizen with education and manners.

RE: Rural?
By Lifted on 5/28/2010 7:26:56 PM , Rating: 2
Nice try, but

at Foxconn's Shenzhen factory in rural China

is pretty clear that the author Shenzhen is a rural area.

RE: Rural?
By theoverseer on 5/27/2010 11:30:47 PM , Rating: 2
the term rural is referring to the areas most of factory workers are coming from.

besides, it is not because your migrant employees live in block of concrete that they suddenly are full fledged urban citizen with education and manners.

So what is Foxconn gonna do
By Sylar on 5/27/2010 4:19:56 PM , Rating: 2
If they break their promise?

RE: So what is Foxconn gonna do
By SAmely on 5/27/2010 4:44:42 PM , Rating: 2
Take out their family, Jobs style.

RE: So what is Foxconn gonna do
By shabby on 5/27/2010 4:46:42 PM , Rating: 2
Throw them off their building?

Foxconn has about 400,000 employees
By phxfreddy on 5/28/2010 7:04:06 AM , Rating: 1
Rate of suicide in china : 13.9/100,000 per year
Number of Foxconn employees: approximately 400,000
Number of suicides since the beginning of the year: 10
Annualized foxconn worker suicide rate for the first 5 months of 2010: 6.0/100,000, or less than half the rate of China

So I am left concluding some anti capitalist is pushing the Foxconn story.

By ajoyner777 on 5/28/2010 9:11:22 AM , Rating: 2
Don't you mean anti-socialist?

By YashBudini on 6/1/2010 11:27:33 PM , Rating: 2
You really have no clue how the press works. Just like our so called college "education" system the sole purpose is to make money. That's done by attracting viewers. What do these viewers want? They want cliffhangers to Lost and 24, they want the Indy 500, they want American Idiot, err sorry, Idol. They want the illusion what they do makes them great, not how the purchase of their last Dell laptop contributed to a death.

This story isn't anti-capitalist. It's simply Pandora's box opening. The last thing government wants is for Joe Average to have another reason not to buy something. Anything.

By the way what you call anti-capitalism is more likely the verbal diversion of a misanthrope. No points for using the same techniques as Faux News.

welcome to rural china
By theoverseer on 5/27/2010 11:05:36 PM , Rating: 2
foxconn internal policies and procedures are not particularly tough.

you might read that the letter mentions "demands", "compensation", "pension" etc.

people are jumping at foxconn simply because they are quite sure they will get paid for it, as their case has world wide coverage.

their relatives will get a lump sum, sometimes up to CNY 400,000, and a yearly pension, which can account for CNY 30,000 per year. and if foxconn agrees to pay, this is only because they are insured against such events.

factory workers do not all have a miserable background. most of them come from rural families and were pushed by naive parents to leave their village to earn a better living. a few of them cannot stand being poorer than their own illiterate relatives, living in conditions far worse than their hometown, and end up jumping to finish as martyrs and save their "face" or reputation.

welcome to rural china.

disregard the above, there is no reliable statistic in china. the country cannot even accurately estimate their own population. not everyone has an id card. not a single Mainlander would trust a statistical report. statistics are only provided to entertain Westerners and receive better loans or additional investment.

RE: welcome to rural china
By YashBudini on 6/1/2010 11:33:21 PM , Rating: 2
"welcome to rural china."

As opposed to the rural America I see around here. No goals, no ambitions, no sense of direction. No need to surpass their parents, if anything a strong desire to be nothing and do nothing, which prevents them from making the same mistakes their parents did. Well except for smoking, that seems ok to repeat.

Ah, the wisdom of the ages.

Not really.

Foxconn: We do what me must, because we can.
By Hyperion1400 on 5/27/2010 6:46:16 PM , Rating: 1
For the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead.

Seriously, am I the only one who thinks that "contract" reads like some kind of Aperture Science memo?

I mean, seriously, this shit is fucked up! I can't tell the difference between fiction and reality anymore!

By ARoyalF on 5/27/2010 7:05:40 PM , Rating: 2
Did someone say "Foxconn science enrichment center? LOL

Sorry to joke on a such a sad topic. I guess the fiction had real life inspiration eh?

I Promise Not to Kill Myself.
By akugami on 5/27/2010 7:36:01 PM , Rating: 3
I promise not to kill myself or hope to die...I mean...dammit...

Here's an Idea.....
By ajoyner777 on 5/28/2010 3:44:47 AM , Rating: 2
Mr. Jobs,

How about you build a factory here in America instead of outsourcing to slave labor over in China? You complain to Foxconn management that they need to keep their employees from killing themselves (probably one of they few things these people still have control over), all the while increasing orders, and demanding better quality. I commend you Mr. Jobs, you're a real P.O.S.

RE: Here's an Idea.....
By YashBudini on 6/1/2010 11:40:35 PM , Rating: 1
You've got to be kidding. Google hired like 70 H1Bs because they couldn't find the skill set they wanted from within the US. They couldn't find 70 out of 300 million in the most techy country on earth. Who the fuck are they kidding?

They all work from the same principle explained in 2 simple words. Lowest bidder.

Ripley was right:

"You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage."

By SunAngel on 5/27/2010 4:25:23 PM , Rating: 2
White tea harvest in the region was just a few weeks ago. I'm willing to bet this year's crop was the most potent ever.

This will be verified once the first shipments reach American and I can get my first hit of this limited-time tea. Can't f**ken wait.

Way to hilarious...
By The0ne on 5/27/2010 6:02:36 PM , Rating: 2
Nice title :)

Another case is ...
By magneticfield on 5/28/2010 5:36:21 AM , Rating: 2
... where an employee attempts suicide and survives, he/she will be fired after it.

By mostyle on 5/28/2010 6:35:47 AM , Rating: 2
<sarcasm>'s to hoping the handed out stress balls and hired someone to explain the possible ramifications of putting your signature on an otherwise pointless document...


Seriously, stress dummies, therapists, and now this?

This sounds more like a 'cover-my-ass' move than anything.


Just die.
By rburnham on 6/2/2010 3:23:31 PM , Rating: 2
If you have to be told, "Please, do not kill yourself," then please, kill yourself.

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