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Arena will seat hundreds, house state of the art broadcasting setup

Professional gaming (also known as "eSports") -- long a staple of the sports world in some parts of Asia such as China and South Korea -- continues on its slow trek towards acceptance in the U.S. market.  This month Major League Gaming (MLG) -- America's largest professional gaming league -- announced that it would be expanding its reach with a small arena in Easton, Ohio, a northeastern suburb of Columbus, Ohio.
 
I. America's First Profession Gaming Arena
 
According to the Columbus Dispatch, the new arena will be located somewhere near the Easton Town Center.
 
At 14,000 square feet, the arena is only about the size of an average CVS Health Corp. (CVS) store.  That's a far cry from the arenas used by college and professional teams playing America's most lucrative sport -- football.  The Dallas Cowboys Stadium, for instance is 3 million square feet.  That's enough room to house over 200 "stadiums" like the one MLG is building.

MLG Columbus

The new stadium also will be very different from a traditional sports arena.  It will only contain enough bleacher seating for "hundreds" of fans to watch big screen views of live gameplay.  By contrast, Cowboys Stadium and its ilk pack 80,000 or more screaming, sweaty fans into their confines.  Michigan Stadium can seat over 110,000 fans (sadly, it's currently going to waste, mostly).
 
II. How MLG Rocketed to 21 Million+ Viewers
 
But you have to start somewhere and MLG certainly is doing that.  Founded in 2002, MLG, the league took a while to pick up steam and establish its business model.
 
In its early days MLG held tournaments around the country.  Top tournaments were occasionally broadcast on ESPN networks (e.g. ESPN3, etc.) and other TV providers.  However, a key factor limiting MLG's growth was that aside from the small audience of live spectators at tournament events and the occasional television rebroadcast, professional gaming wasn't much of a viewer sport -- the athletes themselves primarily enjoyed it.
 
The key transformative factor has been the rise of streaming video.  Initially broadcasting on partner channels like ESPN.com, by 2010 American were "tuning in" to 3 million hours worth of tournament video.
 
2013 was a watershed year for MLG.  It launched its own in-house streaming service MLG.tv, which featured live video from events, rebroadcasts from past events, and professional reporting from its television studio in New York City.

MLG growth

The new channel produced an almost instant payoff.  MLG reported earlier this year that viewing had jumped from 15 million hours in 2012 to 54 million by 2013.  To put that in context, the NCAA Basketball's "March Madness" tournament only served up 14 million hours of online video.  MLG also indicated its viewers watched 150 minutes of video a year, on average, versus 105 minutes for NCAA March Madness viewers.

Those numbers indicate 21.6 million viewers in America in 2013.  MLG's recent press release states that last year 71 million viewers worldwide tuned in to professional gaming in 2013, making it one of the world's fastest growing "sports".  The strong numbers put it in serious contention for advertising dollars. And more money means more career "cyberathletes" and more venues.

III. Are You Not Entertained?

The Columbus Arena will be christened with in October, with a Call of Duty: Ghosts event held Oct. 24-26.  MLG describes its new space, writing:

The MLG.tv Columbus Arena is a 14,000 sq. ft venue that will serve as the backdrop for MLG’s premier competitions and will deliver the same exciting experience as a large-scale MLG Pro Circuit event in a more intimate setting. The Arena features bleacher seating for hundreds of spectators to watch in person, sound proof booths for players and teams, a broadcast platform for live commentating, video screens broadcasting the competition, and warm up areas for players.

Adam Apicella, executive vice president of properties at MLG, remarks:

Columbus has hosted some of our most successful events to date.  With 62 colleges in the Columbus region, hundreds of thousands of university and high school students in the 11-county area, and close proximity to our audience on the East Coast, Columbus is a great location for our MLG.tv Arena.  We look forward to hosting the best players in the world and continuing to collaborate with the passionate community at OSU and their eSports initiative – ESI, as well as those throughout Ohio and beyond.

X Games MLG
The broadcast area at the Columbus Arena will resemble the stage set up for a recent MLG event at the X Games, seen here. [Image Source: Cambria Harkey]

MLG had already announced in April a separate, even bigger stadium.  Set to be completed in 2017, the MLG Stadium will be located on Hengqin, an island in southern China, which is leased to the neighboring city-state of Macau.
 
The island is part of China's densely populated Guangdong province, which is home to a number of large cities including Dongguan, Guangzhou, Zhongshan, Shenzhen, and Foshan.  Between these centers and the special administrative (semi-autonomous) Hong Kong and Macau city-states, the region is home to around 110 million people.
 
MLG is keenly focused on international expansion.  In 2012 it announced an exclusive, multi-year partnership with the KeSPA (Korean eSports Association), South Korea's largest professional gaming league.  And in February 2014 it announced its first international franchise -- MLG Brasil.
 
The MLG Stadium deal ties MLG to eSun Holdings Ltd. (HKG:0571) and Lai Fung Holdings Ltd. (HKG:1125), two of the biggest professional gaming promoters in China.  Together MLG, eSun, and Lai Fung will hold tournaments on the island arena, inviting top gamers from around the world to participate.

professional gaming
Thanks to growing international popularity, professional gaming could soon be as viable a career options as professional basketball or tennis. [Image Source: GamesRadar]

But for now the focus will be on the Columbus Arena.  MLG's current lineup of games used in tournaments is:
  • Console
    • Super Smash Bros. Melee (Gamecube)
    • Mortal Kombat (PS3)
    • Soul Calibur V (PS3)
    • King of Fighters XIII (PS3) 
  • PC
The first place team prize in the commemoral October Call of Duty tournament and the Columbus Arena will be $30,000 USD in cash.  In total MLG will award $75,000 USD in cash prizes to the top scorers among the eight teams of professional Call of Duty gamers who will compete at the event.

Sources: MLG [press release], Columbus Dispatch




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Coming up next, on.....
By Bill S. on 9/25/2014 7:34:47 AM , Rating: 3
...ESPN 8, the OCHO!! MLG action, with guys who still live in their parent's basement!

Seriously, though, to each their own, I guess. The only thing I can say, is that I wonder how long it's going to be now, before some parent (berating their child for low grades in school) has to hear, "Not to worry, folks! I don't need to pass algebra, I'm going to be an MLG sports star!!"




RE: Coming up next, on.....
By FITCamaro on 9/25/2014 8:08:21 AM , Rating: 2
RE: Coming up next, on.....
By swhibble on 9/26/2014 5:42:15 PM , Rating: 2
fake.


Missing game
By KOOLTIME on 9/24/2014 8:09:47 PM , Rating: 2
Having call of duty as 1st main show opening event, yet its not even listed in the article as one of the games that will be hosted there ever again ??

Seems cool but limited game selection, only doing the few controllable competition games, that they can root out most of the cheating on, vs alot of other games, that get hacked to much and ranked competition is hard to keep legit in most games.

Few games allow it without fees, To much licensing copy-write greed, kills the ability to open a brick n mortar hosting place for such events. Cant make money when developers cry for copy-write money to display their games on video / tv streams.

No xbox games at all due to Microsoft wont allow it, without payment to show their games on tv without getting licensing money for it.




Ha....
By ProfFarnsworth on 9/24/2014 9:38:37 PM , Rating: 2
54 million hours? I wonder what twitch has? 54 billion? Probably.

Also, MLG doesn't have any good games at all. None of the FGC respects the MLG scene. That's why you don't have any major fighting game on the list in MLG.




Movin' on up!
By cwolf78 on 9/25/2014 12:22:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Top tournaments were occasionally broadcast on ESPN networks (e.g. ESPN3, etc.) and other TV providers.


And here I thought they were still on ESPN8 "The Ocho."




Hey!
By coburn_c on 9/24/14, Rating: -1
RE: Hey!
By Ticholo on 9/24/2014 4:40:24 PM , Rating: 2
Doesn't mean they can't be a show.
I don't watch any reality shows, but I can't deny they're popular. Same with this. If people are watching, let them.


RE: Hey!
By coburn_c on 9/24/14, Rating: -1
RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/24/2014 4:50:03 PM , Rating: 2
Watching this live > watching soccer.

Any day of the week.


RE: Hey!
By coburn_c on 9/24/14, Rating: 0
RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/24/14, Rating: -1
RE: Hey!
By Vertigo2000 on 9/24/2014 6:03:57 PM , Rating: 3
Geez. Over-react much? How the heck did you take what he said as a personal attack? He related baseball and soccer together. You inferred the rest.

Get back on your meds.


RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/24/14, Rating: -1
RE: Hey!
By flyingpants1 on 9/25/2014 10:31:16 AM , Rating: 1
No, it wasn't. Come on!!!!!!!!


RE: Hey!
By coburn_c on 9/24/2014 9:11:34 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Get back on your meds.


Hilarious.


RE: Hey!
By Bostlabs on 9/26/2014 11:03:11 AM , Rating: 2
Hey now! I'm over 50 and play video games.
I don't watch MLG but that is mainly because I'd rather play than watch.

Careful with the stereotyping.


RE: Hey!
By inighthawki on 9/24/2014 8:25:35 PM , Rating: 3
lol. I think I know a few people that might start a fight with you on that comment :)

But in all seriousness, I probably wouldn't waste my time watching either. Never understood the appeal of watching other people do something fun. Go do it yourself!


RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/24/14, Rating: -1
RE: Hey!
By inighthawki on 9/24/2014 9:46:00 PM , Rating: 3
Firstly, I'm sensing quite a bit of hostility from a pretty harmless opinion I made... not sure why, and definitely not sure why you think I'm "preaching" to you about anything.

Secondly, I wasn't implying that you cannot learn things - but I will argue that practice has far more benefits than watching other people play a game. You might learn new tactics that you otherwise might not know, but if that's all you do, you're a theorist. I know some people who have watched countless hours of other people playing games and they are at best mediocre because they don't actually play enough to put those ideas into practice.

Additionally:
-I was referring specifically to live events. My fault, I didn't clarify.
-There are far and wide much better ways to learn than to watch through an entire game. Highlights, recaps, and specialized videos and guides detailings specifics will offer way more insight into various techniques at lower skill levels. Only once you begin approaching higher professional levels does such a thing even become beneficial, as an average user likely won't even understand half the reasons the player did what they did.


RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/24/14, Rating: -1
RE: Hey!
By inighthawki on 9/25/2014 12:16:11 AM , Rating: 4
I wasn't trying to be condescending at all. Based on your comment, it made it sound like you were implying watching soccer was incredibly boring, to which I presented my opinion: I think it's boring too, I'd rather be playing. But hey, you can be all rude about it if you want. It was a misunderstanding, so pardon me Mr Rage.

I honest to god thought for once we were agreeing on something, but leave it to you to turn it into an argument.


RE: Hey!
By itzmec on 9/25/2014 8:09:17 PM , Rating: 1
exactly. back in the day, when i played a lot of age of empires 2, conquerors expansion, i made big improvements by watching some of the experts play.


RE: Hey!
By inperfectdarkness on 9/25/2014 12:00:30 AM , Rating: 3
And watching Futbol > watching NFL. Your point?

Contrary to popular myth, just because a goal wasn't scored...doesn't mean that the play wasn't exciting. Besides, aren't we sick of all the NFL rule changes that have made virtually every game a shootout...vice the old-school style of 10-6 score games where running backs earned every inch?

I swear to god, the NBA and the NFL are the sporting equivalent of going to a whorehouse--EVERYONE scores.


RE: Hey!
By bah12 on 9/25/2014 12:11:05 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
And watching Futbol > watching NFL.

Your kidding right...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeSZWNtMKxA


RE: Hey!
By bah12 on 9/25/2014 12:17:31 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Hey!
By inighthawki on 9/25/2014 3:31:25 PM , Rating: 2
What's a kidding, and why does he have one?


RE: Hey!
By bah12 on 9/25/2014 4:09:01 PM , Rating: 1
awww spell check didn't catch my illiteracy :( Thanks for the catch grammar police I surrender.


RE: Hey!
By bah12 on 9/25/2014 4:10:40 PM , Rating: 2
LOL DT auto downrated me I assume for using Gpolice. Don't want to allow their posters to point out their abysmal editing.


RE: Hey!
By inighthawki on 9/25/2014 4:47:01 PM , Rating: 2
I'm just messing with you is all :)

But I feel like that's happened to me before for various things. Every now and again one of my posts will start as a 1, and I wouldn't have said anything controversial in it.


RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/25/14, Rating: 0
RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/26/2014 8:38:50 PM , Rating: 2
Wow I just looked it up, nearly 25% of all MLS soccer matches end in a tie. Just...LMAO!

If a full forth of all NFL games ended in a tie, no winner or loser, I can tell you right now I would lose interest in that sport big time.

That's just garbage! You watch your team, root for them for hours, and the game ends 0-0. That's it!!??

Garbage game. Garbage.


RE: Hey!
By inperfectdarkness on 9/27/2014 7:36:01 AM , Rating: 2
There are no ties in elimination games. This is no different in the NFL or NHL than it is in the World Cup.

I'd much rather put up with the falls in futbol than the idiotic rules that are currently in place in the NFL. Plus, let's not forget that 1 World Cup has as many minutes of playtime as 3 NFL playoffs.


RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/28/2014 7:58:47 AM , Rating: 2
Just curious, but what idiotic rules?

Even with the "idiot rules" now, the NFL is a far more violent and physical sport than soccer. It's more competitive too.

Soccer...lmao. A bunch of guys kicking a ball around, the second they touch one of them takes a dive and pretends to be hurt so the guy with the Yellow Card can come out....

That's just thrilling.


RE: Hey!
By FITCamaro on 9/25/2014 8:02:51 AM , Rating: 2
I'll give you that one.

I agree with the original post though. Video games aren't a sport.

But if people want to pay to go watch them, more power to them. I'll just stay home and play video games instead.


RE: Hey!
By slow_excellence on 9/25/2014 10:02:54 AM , Rating: 2
Everybody gets too hung up on the "videogames are not a sport" debate. They may or may not be a sport depending on which semantics you use, but they ARE a competition. When I first started playing LoL 3 years ago I scoffed at the idea of even watching streams. Nobody wants to watch other people play games, right? This is fairly true to me since I rarely watch any streams, but I'd love to go to a gaming "sporting" event sometime. Being with thousands of people who are as passionate as you about something sounds like a pretty damn good time!


RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/26/2014 8:26:00 AM , Rating: 2
I'm kind of surprised that on a tech site/forum the idea of video games being presented in a competitive sports arena setting is getting this much pushback and fierce debate. What's the problem exactly?

Also a bit shocked that ignorant stereotypes of gamers being all on anti-anxiety meds and having carpal tunnel etc etc, are still repeated and supported. Haven't we gotten beyond that nonsense?

Is gaming a "sport" according to the strict dictionary definition? I don't know. And I don't care. Who cares?


RE: Hey!
By slow_excellence on 9/26/2014 12:43:53 PM , Rating: 2
As far as I know, it's become sort of a pissing match between "real" sports fanatics and eSports fanatics. Personally, I see no problem in it being a sport. The main underlying component of any sport is competition, so there is no reason that eSports shouldn't be included.

They also forgot the parent's basement stereotype, which really surprised me. Maybe people are finally realizing that most gamers are capable of financially supporting themselves!


RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/26/2014 1:24:20 PM , Rating: 2
Isn't there room for both? I love football and other sports and played them until my knee went bad. But I also enjoy video gaming and watching competitive eSports.

I just don't see why these two must be so diametrically apposed. What is this, jocks vs geeks? lol...


RE: Hey!
By slow_excellence on 9/26/2014 5:11:08 PM , Rating: 2
People coexisting happily? Cmon man, as if that's ever going to happen. Our very nature is to squabble! Our best bet is to just let it blow over, and maybe reduce salaries for professional athletes :P


RE: Hey!
By Shadowmaster625 on 9/25/2014 9:28:32 AM , Rating: 2
Have you ever seen Samsung White play league of legends? It is insane what that team can do. It's even better when you yourself play the game so you really have a sense of how good they are.


RE: Hey!
By EricMartello on 9/25/2014 9:30:31 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Watching them live? Tell me the appeal of sitting on bleachers next to people who think winning at Starcraft deserves prize money.


You probably said the same thing about UFC.

The money I've earned by streaming World of Warcraft on twitch while also making youtube vids says otherwise. Some people require more intellectual stimulation than watching a bunch of mostly black guys chase a ball around a field/court.


RE: Hey!
By Grimer21 on 9/24/2014 4:43:45 PM , Rating: 3
I feel the term 'eSport' is appropriate. It's not a traditional sport, but it IS a competition that people take seriously. A good compromise in naming convention is to tack on an 'e' and call it a day.


RE: Hey!
By mdogs444 on 9/24/2014 7:10:33 PM , Rating: 2
Its not a traditional sport. Its not a sport in any sense of the word. Chess is a competition...but no one confuses it for a sport.

Lets just call it what it is....a competition. There is no physical exertion involved. Not even "virtual" physical exertion.


RE: Hey!
By xNIBx on 9/24/2014 7:28:33 PM , Rating: 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess

"Chess is a recognized sport of the International Olympic Committee and international chess competition is sanctioned by the World Chess Federation (FIDE), which adopted the now-standard Staunton chess set in 1924 for use in all official games"


RE: Hey!
By bah12 on 9/25/2014 1:08:47 PM , Rating: 2
Actually my all time favorite definition of sport is this, and physical exertion isn't part of it. If you cannot directly impact your opponents ability score it isn't a sport, but rather a contest. In other words there must be a defense for it to be a true sport. Unfortunately I lose my beloved golf, and even worse have to acknowledge soccer. But at least I don't have to consider all the judged contests that make up the olympics as sport.

So by my personal standards chess and some video games are sport, one could easily modify it to include an element of physical exertion.


RE: Hey!
By mdogs444 on 9/25/2014 2:11:00 PM , Rating: 2
I'm just going off the standard definition, not a personal one.

Personally, I don't think any non-athletic, non-physical competition should be considered a sport. For example, Nascar is competition....sure, a little physical, but more mental. Cheerleading is harder than most normal things that we consider sports.

This idea that video games, chess, checkers, etc should be "sports" is laughable in my book, but then again, i don't get to create factual definitions.


RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/24/2014 4:45:56 PM , Rating: 2
Are you kidding? This is a Capitalism success story. Even if you don't "care", you should applaud the entrepreneurial spirit is still alive and well. Bloodied but unbowed.

Although I admit my first reaction was "Oh god, we're turning into South Korea" lol.


RE: Hey!
By dtprodromosr on 9/24/2014 5:11:45 PM , Rating: 1
You don't know what you are talking about!
They are definitely a sport and deserve to get paid more than the majority of tv shows and news broadcastings.
If video games do not deserve to get this attention , neither chess does.
And chess is infinitely simpler than most of the videogames.

Just because you have in your mind the echoes of an older era , "johny stop playing videogames and do your homework", "bought some Nintendo for the kids", this doesn't negate the fact that you are like a neanderthal trapped in the future. In fact the amount of physical and mostly mental well being required to address the requirements of videogames are so huge ,
that are confined to teenagers for the time being who are at a natural physical peak, without requiring much professional training. But this is changing rapidly. And being an esports master will have further applications in the real world, but one thing at a time. We wouldn't want to overload your archaic thinking patterns.


RE: Hey!
By mdogs444 on 9/24/2014 7:07:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You don't know what you are talking about! They are definitely a sport


SPORT
noun: sport; plural noun: sports

1.an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Are you sure its him that doesn't know what he's talking about?


RE: Hey!
By TSS on 9/24/2014 9:38:48 PM , Rating: 2
If games required no physical exertion or skill then having a higher reaction time would be of no value what so ever. If you've ever played any FPS ever you would know the advantage higher reaction speed gives you.

Accuracy is used as well, there's no point being fast if you can't hit anything. Hand eye coordination is extremely important, even more important then established sports such as basketball or volleyball.

If anything, traditional "sports" would need to be redefined as athletics/athletic sports, rather then having some obsecure definition for things such as chess and video games. I don't see why anything requiring half a brain can't be a sport.


RE: Hey!
By mdogs444 on 9/25/2014 6:48:38 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
If games required no physical exertion or skill


Ahh, but that is not the definition of sport. You need to use the word "and" instead of "or". No, there is no physical exertion........unless you're out of breath by merely moving the mouse. If thats the case, you need a treadmill instead of an office chair.

quote:
I don't see why anything requiring half a brain can't be a sport.

Because sports are based on physical exertion, not mental exertion. The definition is clear.


RE: Hey!
By degobah77 on 9/25/2014 9:49:21 AM , Rating: 2
Exertion = physical or mental effort. It doesn't say you have to break a sweat to exert yourself. So if you want to get all technical about it, moving a mouse around does involve exertion, which is clearly defined above. And no, you probably won't be out of breath, but when was the last time a batter at the plate, or a golfer at the tee ran out of breath? Ok then.


RE: Hey!
By mdogs444 on 9/25/2014 12:34:59 PM , Rating: 2
You're grasping at straws ,and unfortunately for you, it doesn't work.

The definition is what it is. I didn't make it, I just copied it word for word. The definition clearly states "physical exertion"....not "physical or mental". So no.

I dont know that golfers "exert" themselves physically. But I'm not the one who classified it as a sport. Baseball though? You really have to ask when the last time a base runner broke a sweat or lost his breath? Are you that obtuse?


RE: Hey!
By degobah77 on 9/25/2014 1:27:40 PM , Rating: 2
ex·er·tion
ig'z?rSH?n/
noun
noun: exertion; plural noun: exertions

1.
physical or mental effort.
"she was panting with the exertion"
synonyms: effort, strain, struggle, toil, endeavor, hard work, labor;
literarytravail
"she was panting with exertion"
2.
the application of a force, influence, or quality.
"the exertion of authority"
synonyms: use, application, exercise, employment, utilization
"the exertion of pressure"

Effort, use, application, endeavor etc, etc. Nowhere in this COPIED AND PASTED definition does it say you have to run around bases and break a sweat to "exert" yourself.

To NOT physically exert yourself is to stay in bed all day. I'm pretty sure getting out of bed to play a video game, physically maneuver a mouse and press buttons on an input device is technically considered an exertion, and a physical one at that. I know I'm tired after sitting at my work computer all day. I'm just sitting here. I have a mouse and a keyboard and that's all. How did I get so tired if I'm not physically exerting myself? Wait, what, you mean it does take a level of physical effort to type and move a mouse around, not to mention focus and stare at a screen for hours on end, that alone is more physically exhausting than some "sports" are. Say it ain't so!

And when did I say base runner? I said batter at the place or golfer at a tee.


RE: Hey!
By mdogs444 on 9/25/2014 1:57:25 PM , Rating: 2
This might be one of those ridiculous things I've ever read.

quote:
To NOT physically exert yourself is to stay in bed all day.


So by your definition, you are experiencing "strain, struggle, toil, endeavor, hard work, labor" just by not being in bed all day?

Where I come from, we don't call that "exertion"....we call that "laziness".


RE: Hey!
By degobah77 on 9/25/2014 2:07:38 PM , Rating: 2
Hey, I know that. I'm just saying that playing video games is at least a step up from staying in bed all day, and I when I say that, I mean doing absolutely nothing other than breathing - I know you can play video games in bed lol. So, technically, getting up out of bed to go to an arena to compete in a video game championship DOES require physical exertion at multiple levels ;-)

Summary - if golf/chess/fishing can be called a sport, than video games can be called an eSport.


RE: Hey!
By mdogs444 on 9/25/2014 2:14:05 PM , Rating: 2
eSport is fine by me. I guess I just grew up in a different age when I didnt want to be inside......like EVER. I was always outside playing baseball, football, basketball, fly fishing, hunting. I didn't even want a nintendo when they first came out in 4th grade. I didnt want a Genesis, Super Nintendo, etc.

I guess I just don't get what the fun is all about doing nothing but staring at a tv screen and sitting on a** all day lol.


RE: Hey!
By mdogs444 on 9/25/2014 2:03:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
And when did I say base runner? I said batter at the place or golfer at a tee

What does a batter do after he hits the ball? Thats right......he runs.

quote:
I know I'm tired after sitting at my work computer all day. I'm just sitting here. I have a mouse and a keyboard and that's all. How did I get so tired if I'm not physically exerting myself?
I work in healthcare for 12 years now, and if you think you're tired from "working so hard with your mouse", then you have another think coming. You're exhausted because your body is used to not burning off any calories and not having the need to generate energy for you to use for physical activity. In other words, you're not tired because physically you are are lazy.


RE: Hey!
By degobah77 on 9/25/2014 2:16:43 PM , Rating: 2
No need to get personal. I know full well why I get tired and it's not because I'm lazy or anything along that stretch of your imagination.


RE: Hey!
By mdogs444 on 9/25/2014 2:57:08 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry - when I said "you"...I meant you, me, and everyone else with a desk job. Not you personally.

I worked 8-9hrs a day on a computer behind a desk too. I know the feeling.

I'm just merely citing the health information that I know of when it comes to working in an office setting and the clinical studies associated with it.


RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/26/2014 8:30:22 AM , Rating: 2
"Physical exertion" is a subjective statement. The parameters aren't defined. Moving a mouse and hitting keys on a keyboard could be viewed as "exertion" if one so chose.

quote:
unless you're out of breath by merely moving the mouse.


I've never seen a golfer out of breath either, and it's considered a sport.

Not giving my opinion either way, just playing devils advocate. But this isn't as black and white as you pretend it is.


RE: Hey!
By tayb on 9/24/2014 8:28:06 PM , Rating: 2
If NASCAR is a sport then video games are a sport.

Hell, in NASCAR the automobile is the real hero. At least in video games the person playing unequivocally controls 100% of the outcome.

Though if we are holding to the strict definition that a sport requires physical exertion bowling, chess, NASCAR, and yes video games should all be classified as competitions.

Hell, if NASCAR is a sport so is horse racing.


RE: Hey!
By SlyNine on 9/25/2014 4:32:43 AM , Rating: 2
I'd love to watch you participate in a nascar race and watch you get lapped over and over again. That's if you didn't crash the field on the first lap or pass out before the race was finished.


RE: Hey!
By tayb on 9/25/2014 9:40:06 AM , Rating: 2
Pass out? My morning commute is more treacherous than the endless ovals in NASCAR.

Here, this is the quick NASCAR tutorial:

Step 1: Go straight
Step 2: Turn left
Step 3: Repeat steps 1 and 2 for a few hours

Done. Call it a competition, I don't care, but it's not a sport.


RE: Hey!
By Motoman on 9/25/2014 12:35:56 PM , Rating: 2
http://www.athleteslivehere.com/blog/2012/10/nasca...

You're a catastrophic moron. You've probably never in your life been physically capable of even completing a NASCAR race...let alone being competitive while doing it.

Here's a Google search for you, with article after article showing how physically demanding NASCAR racing is:

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=how+p...

...since you're clearly incapable of using Google yourself.


RE: Hey!
By flyingpants1 on 9/27/2014 12:07:33 AM , Rating: 2
It's not being a "catastrophic moron" or being "clearly incapable of using Google". It's just common ignorance. Calm down.


RE: Hey!
By flyingpants1 on 9/26/2014 7:35:34 PM , Rating: 2
I'd simplify it to just "Turn left" but yeah.


RE: Hey!
By mdogs444 on 9/25/2014 6:53:30 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Hell, if NASCAR is a sport so is horse racing.


Actually, horse racing is a sport. You couldn't physically pass 25% of the athletic requirements of a jockey.

quote:
in NASCAR the automobile is the real hero

Wrong, in Nascar, the car is the tool. The driver is the "hero". Thats like saying the football is the hero, not the quarterback who uses the football. An inanimate object is nothing more than that.......and inanimate object.

While I'm sure there is some physical exertion in Nascar, I personally do not find it anymore physically exerting than golf. However, at least with golf, your physical ability combined with mental ability is needed. One without the other does not translate into a good golfer.


RE: Hey!
By tayb on 9/25/2014 9:43:34 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Actually, horse racing is a sport. You couldn't physically pass 25% of the athletic requirements of a jockey.


The biggest requirement to be a jockey is simply to be small. I can't pass the "be small" requirement.

quote:
Wrong, in Nascar, the car is the tool. The driver is the "hero". Thats like saying the football is the hero, not the quarterback who uses the football. An inanimate object is nothing more than that.......and inanimate object.


If the car is the tool then the pit crew is the hero. Any schmuck can make left turns.


RE: Hey!
By mdogs444 on 9/25/2014 12:38:39 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The biggest requirement to be a jockey is simply to be small. I can't pass the "be small" requirement.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/15/sport/jockey-fit...

quote:
Any schmuck can make left turns.

Obviously Ted Kennedy couldn't.


RE: Hey!
By Reclaimer77 on 9/26/2014 8:31:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The biggest requirement to be a jockey is simply to be small. I can't pass the "be small" requirement.


0/10 Troll.

I mean come on, you're being WAY too obvious with this lol.


RE: Hey!
By FITCamaro on 9/25/2014 8:06:45 AM , Rating: 2
Anyone can get into a car with a lot of horsepower. Not everyone can drive it effectively. Even though NASCAR largely just goes in a circle (or oval), its not as simple as "mash the gas and keep the wheel turned. There is strategy involved and timing. Plus it is extremely physically exerting. Those cars aren't cool and its not like they're riding on comfortable shocks, have AC, or any other comforts and aids.


RE: Hey!
By tayb on 9/25/2014 9:41:21 AM , Rating: 2
Oh man, the cars aren't air conditioned? Well, why didn't someone tell me that before! These guys have to sit in warm cars? OH the humanity.

With that in mind I definitely agree that it is a sport. Sitting in a car? Without AC? Wow, I'm surprised it's even legal.


RE: Hey!
By flyingpants1 on 9/26/2014 7:38:43 PM , Rating: 2
Read a thing, bro.


RE: Hey!
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