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The University of Rochester with help from MIT pulls the wraps off the first true 3D processor

While quantum computers and fiber optic computers are certainly ideal candidates for a silicon PC replacement, they remain in the distant future.  In the meantime, one key unexploited domain, which may give silicon a stay of retirement, is 3D chip technologies.

Today virtually all chips on the market are flat, two dimensional designs.  While this is somewhat efficient from a cooling perspective, it offers definite limitations in terms of computing resources per given space.  A 3D chip could theoretically be much more compact, while being equally efficient.  This would have the added perk that it could reduce defects, as larger dies typically lead to more defects.  It would also limit propagation delays by shortening interconnects and make the chip harder to reverse engineer.

While some chips designs have claimed to be "3D", most of these designs are merely stacked chips with a few communications interconnects and not mass interoperation between stacked layers.  Now the University of Rochester has demoed perhaps the first true 3D processor design.  The chip is optimized in 3 dimensions and runs at a speedy 1.4 GHz.  Its unique design allows it to become the first chip to offer full functionality in three dimensions in tasks involving synchronicity, power distribution, and long-distance signaling.

"I call it a cube now, because it's not just a chip anymore.  This is the way computing is going to have to be done in the future. When the chips are flush against each other, they can do things you could never do with a regular 2-D chip," stated Eby Friedman, Distinguished Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering at Rochester and faculty director of the processor.

Professor Friedman worked with engineering student Vasilis Pavlidis to develop the design.  He says that while Moore's Law of transistors in a given chip area doubling with time may come to halt in a 2 dimensional world, as some are suggesting, extending processors into 3 dimensions will allow it to continue as fast as ever.

The hardest part according to the researchers is getting the levels of the chip to properly interact.  Professor Friedman compares the problem to a scenario where a standard microprocessor is like the U.S. traffic system, and then the 3D processor is like 3 or more U.S. traffic systems stacked atop each other and expected to coordinate traffic between levels.  He says the problem is even tougher as the processors are different, so it’s more like stacking the U.S., China, and India, where traffic laws are different, atop each other.

However, the advantages are the special purpose processors designed for functions like MP3 encoding could be achieved on a particular layer.  Professor Friedman predicts that a 3D processor in a device such as the iPod could be tenth the current processor's size with ten times the speed.

While the chip uses many standard processor design tricks, it also uses new ones to account for different impedances that might occur from chip to chip, different operating speeds, and different power requirements.  It is also was uniquely manufactured at MIT, through a technique in which millions of holes were drilled in the insulation between layers, allowing virtually every transistor to be connected, if desired, with those above or below it.

The future, Professor Friedman says is vertical.  He states, "Are we going to hit a point where we can't scale integrated circuits any smaller? Horizontally, yes.  But we're going to start scaling vertically, and that will never end. At least not in my lifetime. Talk to my grandchildren about that."



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So what can this chip do?
By ChronoReverse on 9/16/2008 1:18:06 PM , Rating: 2
1.4GHz really doesn't tell us anything if we don't know the capabilities of the chip




RE: So what can this chip do?
By quiksilvr on 9/16/2008 1:19:14 PM , Rating: 2
I was thinking the same thing. Is it like 1.4 GHz with respect to Core 2 Duo processors or Pentium 4?


RE: So what can this chip do?
By bobsmith1492 on 9/16/2008 1:22:35 PM , Rating: 2
More like a 486, maybe?


RE: So what can this chip do?
By an0dize on 9/16/2008 1:36:15 PM , Rating: 1
I'm sure it would blow both of them away at that speed if they got it fully functional...


RE: So what can this chip do?
By Digimonkey on 9/16/2008 2:31:02 PM , Rating: 2
In real world performance. Not likely, these demo chips usually come with a minimal instruction set. It still would've been nice to see how many flops it could do.


RE: So what can this chip do?
By Pavelyoung on 9/19/2008 1:28:11 AM , Rating: 3
About as many as a politician. Which means that for for a demo chip its got to be pretty inpressive


By Shining Arcanine on 9/17/2008 7:36:59 PM , Rating: 2
1.4GHz refers to the number of clock cycles. It says little about the performance.


RE: So what can this chip do?
By JasonMick (blog) on 9/16/2008 1:23:15 PM , Rating: 2
It can assimilate you :)

j/k. The press release was very vague, but I'm guessing each layer performs different basic math. The big deal is that theres more interconnects between the chips and no synchronization issues.


RE: So what can this chip do?
By Myg on 9/16/2008 2:54:28 PM , Rating: 2
heh, actually; your not far off there.

As we offset human work with more CPU based stuff, the more computers will ebb themselves into our lives and take over many functions.

"Resistance is futle, we are progress... I mean the borg"


RE: So what can this chip do?
By grath on 9/16/2008 9:11:49 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
...many standard processor design tricks, it also uses new ones to account for different impedances that might occur from chip to chip...


Resistance was futile, so we tried impedance, but they adapted.

[Rim Shot]


RE: So what can this chip do?
By mmntech on 9/16/2008 1:24:41 PM , Rating: 3
It's more of what it is (or its potential) than what it does right now. The process can squeeze more transistors into the same footprint. Therefore, you can take a processor using the same fab techniques as today but double performance by simply stacking transistors on top of each other. Cooling is going to be the big problem with this though.


RE: So what can this chip do?
By Bateluer on 9/16/2008 1:40:07 PM , Rating: 2
Interesting proof of concept design, but I still want my Quantum Computer.


RE: So what can this chip do?
By R0B0Ninja on 9/18/2008 7:54:41 AM , Rating: 2
Can't you just cope with an optical computer for now?


By Mojo the Monkey on 9/24/2008 12:45:32 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, it'll have to wait until I can have my petri dish rat brain multi-core computer up and running.

...they can already control remote cars, why not my outlook schedule?


By Cobra Commander on 9/16/2008 2:28:39 PM , Rating: 5
It's a proof of concept in terms of design and fabrication, as far as I'm concerned.

Its performance is irrelevant.


RE: So what can this chip do?
By BladeVenom on 9/16/08, Rating: -1
RE: So what can this chip do?
By FaceMaster on 9/16/08, Rating: -1
RE: So what can this chip do?
By Flunk on 9/16/2008 5:23:54 PM , Rating: 3
The 1.4Ghz is irrelevant too, this is a proof of concept. It's not like you can just plug any processor into your current computer system and run windows on it. The vast majority of processor designs are completely incompatible with each other.

What it does show us though is that this is fully possible and that in itself is so fabulous it could allow us to have hundreds or thousands of cores easily. Now Intel and the other big chipmakers just need to figure out how to design and fabricate 3D chips and we will be able to buy them at the local computer store. Barring any show stopping problems we could be using 3D chips within 10 years. Maybe less if they use stacked designs first (DRAM and NAND chips are already available stacked).


RE: So what can this chip do?
By slayerized on 9/16/2008 5:40:21 PM , Rating: 3
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Professor Friedman predicts that a 3D processor in a device such as the iPod could be tenth the current processor's size with ten times the speed.


This is a very loose statement with very little insight. I am not sure what he means by 1/10th the size; does he mean Si footprint? I am sure how he assumes there will be miniaturization, with the same amount of functionality, using the same process. I do understand they might be negating some routing overhead to the vertical dimension; yet it doesnt answer the question of size. Speed however will increase because of reduced interconnect latencies; but by 10 times, I am not quite sure.

Also, using a device like an ipod is not necessarily the best example. The functionality in ipod is achieved by board level integration of functionalities, as opposed to chip level integration. All this being said, I think it is cool what they are doing, although I am not sure if they are the first to come up with something like this. IBM has done some 3D-ICs in the past as well.


RE: So what can this chip do?
By fic2 on 9/16/2008 6:24:12 PM , Rating: 2
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IBM has done some 3D-ICs in the past as well.

I think IBMs have just been layers of the same chip with only an interconnect in the vertical direction. This seems to be talking about having transistors in the vertical direction which would be the only "true" 3-D processing cube.