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OpenSearch support in Chrome is weird.

Chrome's internal task manager: each tab in Chrome runs as a seperate process.

Chrome handles self-signed SSL certificates with aplomb.
I find Google's latest to be promising, but incomplete

Now that Google Chrome is available to us, what will we think of it? With that in mind, I set out to give it a spin with my daily browsing activities, just to see how much I like it.

Unfortunately, at this time my opinion of Chrome is rather mixed. On one hand, I like what Google’s team is trying to do: isolating individual tabs into separate processes is a really neat idea, and the inclusion of an internal task manager certainly makes figuring out what screwed up even easier. The same goes with its ballyhooed Javascript enhancements, which Google dubs “V8” and is supposed to precompile Javascript code so that it runs much faster.

One the other hand, there are a show-stopping amount of missing, missed features.

So before I get into my thoughts, I just want to note that this is the first release of a product dubbed “beta”. I still haven’t determined if that moniker is used in its Web 2.0 definition of the word – as in, something that feels like a finished product but has a moving featureset – or the true software development sense of the word, as so far I have yet to experience any stability problems. Many of these complaints could easily vanish within the next couple of months if Google’s engineers think Chrome is as feature-incomplete as I argue it to be.

Please note that this writeup consists of initial impressions, not a full or complete review of the program.

So without further adeu, these are my thoughts on Chrome, both good and bad. They are in no particular order:

  • No search bar. One of the most visible differences with Chrome is its lack of a search bar. At first, I thought that Google dispensed with the feature altogether – though that doesn’t make any sense – but playing with the browser a bit more revealed that your address bar doubles as a search bar.

  • Funky OpenSearch support. Chrome supports OpenSearch, but its implementation is weird. I could not find an easy way to add an OpenSearch provider unless the site itself has a link to do so – whereas in Firefox and IE you can a add provider for most any site supporting it with two clicks. To use DailyTech’s OpenSearch feture, you have to type “dailytech.com”  as a prefix and then your search query; to search Dailytech.com for articles containing the string “RIAA”, one types “dailytech.com RIAA”. I can see this becoming very annoying for websites with long domain names.

  • No extensions! This is very much a dealbreaker for me. I run about a dozen or so extensions on my Firefox install, and a handful of these extensions are irreplaceable due to regular use. I simply cannot comfortably surf the web without my precious del.icio.us buttons, or DownThemAll!, or DownloadHelper, or BugMeNot. When you have 40+ tabs open while working – as I often do – AdBlock is indispensable.

  • Chrome is not afraid to cater to geeks. It’s nice being able to use a piece of software without being slapped in the face for having the gall to possess computer literacy. Windows, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, Internet Explorer, and Firefox, and many others seem to have contempt towards those not afraid of details and a real error message, and this is very frustrating. Chrome takes the correct approach: present users with a basic set of options, and then bury the nuts and bolts behind an “advanced” type button or link. Ideally, it’s the best of both worlds: newbies get their hands held, and power users get their control. The Task Manager and “Stats for nerds”  features are shining examples of how to treat users both novice and adept. That said, however, the “Options” panel is distinctly lacking in stuff to tweak.

  • No plug-in management. One of my favorite features of Firefox 3 is the ability to enable and disable browser plug-ins (Adobe Reader, Quicktime Player, and so on) at my whim. A particularly nice touch is the fact that I can do so without restarting – very helpful for those 40+ tab situations. Want to play an MP3 in your browser? Enable the Quicktime plugin. Want to then download that MP3 from a site that doesn’t give you an easy way to do so? Hit the back button, disable the Quicktime plugin, and click the link again. Chrome does not seem to have a way to manage plug-ins at all, unless you want to pick them off one by one in its Task Manager.

  • Lots of nice, little touches. Highlighting the domain name in black is a nice touch. The Gmail-style status bar is a nice touch. The overall minimalism shines to create an experience that allows the user to focus on browsing, without being surrounded by visual clutter.

  • Middle mouse button does not scroll. Another beloved feature in Firefox, Microsoft Word, Internet Explorer, and nearly every other Windows application I use is the ability to quickly scroll through a document using the middle mouse button. Its absence in Chrome is another dealbreaker for me. Sometimes, the scroll wheel is simply is not fast enough to move through data at the speed I want it to. (This is also a sore point for me in desktop Linux…)

  • An unfortunate choice of names. Chrome, in the context of computer interfaces, is also used to refer to the “visible graphic interface features of an application” such as buttons, widgets, text boxes, and so on. I see this term used a lot when referring to Mozilla’s windowing toolkit, on which applications like Firefox and Thunderbird are built. The Jargon File, a hacker glossary of sorts, refers to chrome as “Showy features added to attract users but contributing little or nothing to the power of a system … Often used as a term of contempt.” I don’t see this being a major problem, but couldn’t Google have chosen something different?

  • Excellent handling of self-signed SSL certificates: living in the dark underbelly of the ongoing war against improperly-signed SSL certificates are the home server geeks, small business network administrators, and anyone else who uses SSL for personal applications. With both Firefox 3 and Internet Explorer 7 requiring users to jump through an unacceptable number of hoops to access a site with improperly-signed (“unpaid”) SSL certificates – regardless of whether it’s your home server, or a suspicious page hosted in Russia – it’s nice to see Google engineers taking the sensible approach. Users are notified of the invalid certificate, and the https text is rendered red and with a slash – but the warning only takes a single click to bypass (unlike Firefox), and the correct button to click is placed intuitively (unlike IE7). Thank you, Google.

Despite my complaints, I like where Chrome is heading. The project’s intentions seem reminiscent of the original vision of Firefox: a minimalist browsing experience. Firefox, of course, wanted users to supplement its purposeful deficiencies with extensions – which it now has, in spades – but I don’t think anybody except Google itself knows how that’s going to work out in Chrome.

With that said, I want to note that I am beginning to look into suitable replacements for Firefox: as the browser’s focus seems to have shifted from the optimized, lightweight browsing experience detailed around the transition to version 1.0, into a populist-yet-customizable alternative browser for the masses that we see in current versions, it feels more and more like Firefox is becoming the browser it originally set out to replace. Could Chrome be the answer to my search? I don’t know yet – but the future certainly looks promising.



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I've already noticed a difference in speed...
By Etsp on 9/2/2008 9:45:53 PM , Rating: 2
To me, Chrome starts loading pages much faster than FF or IE, this could be due to the fact that FF and IE have various plugins installed (Flash, Adobe, Java, quicktime, etc) or possibly my firefox addon NoScript, but I don't feel that that is the case right now.

Granted, I've only had a day to play around with it, but it feels like that first step to loading a webpage is much faster in Chrome. I saw in the limited options panel a setting that might be attributed to this: DNS Pre-Caching(Or something, I don't have chrome installed on this machine yet...) But, I could also be completely off base.

All I really know, is that I love the concept of Chrome as much as I hate adobe locking up Firefox!




By amanojaku on 9/2/2008 10:58:55 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe it's my box, but I don't see any performance impact from my browsers, Firefox or IE (Windows Update only!) Maybe it's just one of those "your mileage may vary" scenarios. The performance boost from Firefox 3 over 2 is simply amazing, so I can't deny that code impacts performance.

As for "Adobe locking up Firefox," what Adobe product are you talking about? Flash has never locked up on me, and I use PDF Download to open PDFs in Acrobat, not Firefox. You can do this without PDF download, but I like the fact that it lets me choose to download or open PDFs, instead of having to pick one or the other. And I've seen PDFs lock up IE, too... Never run a program from within a program, that's my motto.


RE: I've already noticed a difference in speed...
By Etsp on 9/2/2008 11:13:46 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I was referring to PDF's. I should probably try PDF Download to see if that works better for me. I am not saying that the page loads faster overall, but that it just seems, well, snappier, more responsive when you click on a link. But again, that's on a 2.4 ghz P4 without even hyperthreading so... mileage may vary. :)


By idconstruct on 9/4/2008 2:12:10 PM , Rating: 2
.... with regards to the use of the name "Chrome" ... According to the article the word is often used with contempt regarding useless graphical 'frill' such as the grey border on most apps... It's obviously a play on the work used to highlight the fact that they've made pains to eliminate that.

Considering most people don't know the hacker definition... I don't see it as any more or less odd than "Firefox" or "Opera" ... and it's certainly not as dry as "Internet Explorer"


By Flunk on 9/5/2008 12:45:39 AM , Rating: 2
Chrome is also the name of the skinning system Mozilla uses.


By cheetah2k on 9/2/2008 11:56:19 PM , Rating: 2
I reckon Chrome will make a noticeable difference in internet surfing speed on a UMPC or even ultra portable laptops like the Asus EE, Acer and HP's offerings.

I still love Firefox though.


By Master Kenobi (blog) on 9/3/2008 8:04:37 AM , Rating: 1
Frankly, I find Chrome to be no faster or slower than current FF3 or IE8b2 offerings. Granted Chrome launches itself quicker, but then again its a tiny browser. It also seems to plug into many of the IE systems. Like for instance if you want to enter proxy information it launches the IE configuration panel. So, while Google has a "small browser" on a system completely lacking in IE, it wouldn't work. Hence why this release says XP/Vista only. The google browser is hijacking many of the IE subsystems to make it self operate, rather than a complete stand alone browser like Firefox.


By omnicronx on 9/3/2008 11:16:44 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Like for instance if you want to enter proxy information it launches the IE configuration panel.
Thats because these proxy settings are system wide.. they apply to Firefox as well (although firefox does have proxy settings which only apply to itself). I only use firefox, but when using a proxy, I always set it in the Internet Options configuration settings (they are not IE options but system wide internet options from the control panel that comes up) because it works with all applications.


By Screwballl on 9/3/2008 2:36:43 PM , Rating: 2
I have found that on 2 separate systems, it runs and loads faster with a faster machine (Core2Duo) but it runs and loads much slower when compared to FF3 and IE7 on the slower computer (AthlonXP 3000+ Barton). This is 2 systems with an almost identical OS setup (XP Pro) including browser plugins (I use the 3000+ for work and the E6600 for play).
I see the Most Visited and History portion as both a good and bad addition. Those who like their privacy have to remember to clear the browsing history with each step whereas FF3 can be set to forget everything upon close.

Overall I do like the new features but it is definitely a beta product that needs to take some cues from FF3 and 3.1.


By Quiescent on 9/7/2008 9:50:35 AM , Rating: 2
You must have forgotten to read the comic. Use incognito window instead. They said it won't save any data at all from it.


By Quiescent on 9/7/2008 3:58:39 PM , Rating: 2
The adobe acrobat pdf files locking up firefox is not a problem on the browser side of things. It's Adobe Acrobat sucking. Worse thing ever made to man. I would prefer HTML files over an Adobe PDF file. It loads slow, locks up, and does everything messed up whether you load it in Adobe Acrobat or load it in a browser. It doesn't matter.


Tough Customer
By jtesoro on 9/3/2008 1:16:03 AM , Rating: 5
This is going to be something of a challenge as on one hand you want an optimized, lightweight browsing experience, but on the other say that lack of extensions and plug-in management are dealbreakers for you.

I think that one affects the other so having both isn't easy to achieve. Best of luck to developers trying to find this sweet spot. I'll be there downloading when it's done!

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RE: Tough Customer
By TomCorelis (blog) on 9/3/2008 8:21:04 PM , Rating: 4
Naw, the browser should be as lightweight as possible. If a user chooses to weigh it down with extensions, that's their prerogative. Winamp-style modularity!


EULA
By Hare on 9/3/2008 4:14:45 PM , Rating: 2
I already posted this in another Chrome article, but here goes:

Who else has read the EULA?

11.1 ... By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services .

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

...Makes you think.




RE: EULA
By thepalinator on 9/7/2008 9:06:04 PM , Rating: 2
They already updated the EULA.


First impression
By ted61 on 9/2/2008 9:52:27 PM , Rating: 2
From my initial tinkering, I like it. I am not a power user and I don't care about add-ons and RSS feeds. I do like the way it keeps track of my most visited sites in order and it keeps them up to date.

It is nice, simple and clean. No extra junk that I don't want. I may "need" toolbars but I sure don't want them. I currently use no Google products. I don't like the search engine and OpenOffice works fine for me. This may be a Google product that I will use.

I will give it try. Time will tell how much I use it.




There are extensions
By AnnihilatorX on 9/3/2008 4:45:33 AM , Rating: 2
Google Chrome supports its own open source extension which they term Gear. I don't know much about it but the comic they release had info on it.




Huh?
By ttowntom on 9/4/2008 10:21:11 AM , Rating: 2
You're actually calling Chrome an "unfortunate name"? WTH is "Windows" then? Seems like I had heard that term around somewhere before Microsoft started using it.




Scroll
By spoo on 9/4/2008 11:54:39 PM , Rating: 2
Well, actually the scroll (middle mouse button) works only when you scroll down. Unfortunately there is no way to scroll up with ease - unless you use the scroll bar on the right...
Another interesting thing is, there is more space to view the content ... i mean, menu bar and the status bar are absent - or are present in different form. For those who have small screens (or who work on laptops all the time), this is a wonderful feature.




Great For The Eee
By Quiescent on 9/6/2008 9:22:33 PM , Rating: 2
Problems I had with firefox on my Eee:
>I usually scroll using my arrow keys. For some reason it was slow scrolling in firefox.
>Pages loaded slow even when ads were blocked and firefox was configured to run "faster".
>If you ran java, and didn't restart firefox after you were done with whatever was using java, you will see your RAM usage grow, and your CPU load spike a lot.
>Videos loaded slow
>Javascript was a pain, and also responded slowly.
>Pulls a linux crash that normally doesn't happen on Windows - Randomly disappears without Windows screaming bloody murder. This is NOT normal!

Problems I had with Firefox on my desktop and other PCs:
>Everytime it wanted to update and I clicked later, it would continue to use one whole core until I closed Firefox and let it update.
>Everything loaded slow, same problem on my Eee, but less noticable.
>Same issues on plugins like java.

Problems I have with chrome:
> apply.cgi for the linksys firmware does not load. Chrome seems to think it's broken, but it's not.

What do I like about Chrome?
>Websites load faster to the point of me not caring that the ads are loading as well. The only reason I had ads blocked on firefox was to avoid having to load more crap and have a slower load time.
>It's compact, but it's compactness does not compramise functionality.
>It has it's own task manager
>I have more space in the browser that again I don't care if the ads load.
>How it's explained to be better in memory management is true. I've ran this browser for 3 days now and it is still using less RAM than Firefox ever used in 3 days. In fact, I'm using more tabs because it's using less RAM.
>I scroll using the arrow keys, it's response timing is so fast that it's great.
>I can run plugins like java without having a bog down or abundant resource abuse.

So I used Adblock Plus and Downloadstatusbar. Why did I switch to Chrome? Because it is compact, functional, and fast. How it manages my downloads is good. I don't need any of the plugins I've used in firefox, because I don't need them. I have made the switch even with it being new software and new software having vulnerabilities. I recommend chrome.




Chrome
By rosoft2001 on 9/8/2008 10:20:18 PM , Rating: 2
While using Chrome I found that a lot of sites sites don't work, due to missing plugins for the new platform. Sometimes just quitting the site is not an option so I created an easy way to open the page in your "old" browser. Just drag and drop the URL from the Chrome URL bar into the Mirror form and you can continue your Chrome browsing.

Download: http://www.zonator.com/mirror.zip




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