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Let there be (reflected) light! Scientists get a peak at the atmosphere of a giant extra-solar planet

Hot on the heels of a recent DailyTech blog post concerning finding habitable exoplanets, a group of astronomers comprised of professor Svetlana Berdyugina of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, Zurich and Andrei Berdyugin and Vilppu Piirola of the Tuorla Observatory at the University of Turku in Finland observed light reflected from the atmosphere of a planet orbiting a star approximately 60 light years from Earth.

The star and planet under scrutiny are known as HD189733 and HD189733b, respectively. The exoplanet was discovered in 2005 by Doppler spectroscopy. Astronomers were to infer the duration of orbital cycles and the probable size of a planet via Doppler spectroscopy, but hard data like orbital orientation and physical composition are much more difficult. Previous findings likened the planet to a hot Jupiter, orbiting very close to its star.

The astronomers used the 60cm KVA telescope, which resides in La Palma, Spain, by remote control to make their observations. The telescope is operated by Tuorla observatory by agreement with the Royal Swedish Academy of Science to which it belongs, and was modernized by Finnish scientists.

Rather than directly observing the light reflected from the planet's atmosphere, the group used a method similar to polarized glasses. Extraneous light was filtered from other sources and the reflection of HD189733's light from the atmosphere of HD189733b became visible, similar to the way we observe the sun's light reflecting off the surface of the moon.

The light reflected from HD189733b indicates that the atmosphere surrounding the planet is considerably larger than the planet itself, in the area of 30% or more, probably due to the heat of orbiting so closely to its star. Other data gathered seems to allude to the atmosphere being made up of very small particles such as atoms, molecules, tiny grains of dust and possibly water vapor. An atmosphere of this composition would effectively scatter blue light in the same way as Earth's.

The group has published their observations in a paper titled First Detection of Polarized Scattered Light From an Exoplanetary Atmosphere (PDF).



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Huh.
By AntiV6 on 12/28/2007 6:51:37 PM , Rating: 2
Only 60 light years? That is Suprising, seeing as how everything seems too be millions of light years away from us.

I wonder if anything could be sent there in my or my families lifetimes.




RE: Huh.
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 12/28/2007 7:02:02 PM , Rating: 3
Unless someone decides to increase the speed of light, not likely.


RE: Huh.
By mmntech on 12/28/2007 7:11:28 PM , Rating: 5
Anything is possible. Probably not in our lifetimes though.


RE: Huh.
By Hippiekiller on 12/28/2007 7:34:49 PM , Rating: 2
It's almost hard to believe that 670 million miles per hour seems so slow on a cosmic scale.

I wouldn't be surprised if its absolutely impossible for any living creature to create a transportation device that can match the speed of light, let alone exceed it.

What do you guys think?


RE: Huh.
By xxeonn on 12/28/2007 7:53:12 PM , Rating: 2
I would think so. Useing the theory of Warp we would not need to exceed the speed of light but to bend the space time whatever its called.


RE: Huh.
By MadMaster on 12/28/2007 8:01:18 PM , Rating: 3
There is A LOT of speculation and not a lot of evidence.

In other words, it's going to be a long time.


RE: Huh.
By hobbes7869 on 12/29/2007 10:17:18 AM , Rating: 5
Never will we exceed it, as a given beginning mass increased in speed, so to does its actual mass, as well as the energy needed to continually increase, as you approach the speed of light, the mass is approaching infinite mass and the energy required to continually increase the speed is approaching the infinite level. Now, some scientists believe that quantum physics will revel that there are ways around this, such as bending space time, discovery of parallel universes (multiverses) etc. But at this time, none of this has been proven. An interesting book for you to read is Brief History of Time (Stephen Hawking)


RE: Huh.
By Davelo on 12/29/2007 6:58:23 PM , Rating: 1
Luckily not everybody is as closed minded as you. Yes, one day faster than light communication (and travel) will become a reality, if we don't kill ourselves first.

But we are only witnessing the beginning of a great exploration. In the years to come many new planets will be discovered. We will find out one day that Earth is not so unique.


RE: Huh.
By Spoelie on 12/30/2007 9:23:15 AM , Rating: 2
Regretfully a lot of people are as gullible as you. Yes, a device of mass (rocket, ...) will never exceed or even reach the speed of light, as explained. This is fact. Bending of time and space is the only possible way to go faster, but it would not really be going physically faster.


RE: Huh.
By Davelo on 12/30/2007 3:41:29 PM , Rating: 2
You could be correct and I should apologize to the guy I replied to. It may take an unorthodox method to break the light barrier but I think it can be done. Don't be so persuaded by Einstein's theories. They are after all only theories and have never been proved to be fact as you say. Even Einstein was questioning his own theories until he died.


RE: Huh.
By melgross on 12/30/2007 8:55:31 PM , Rating: 2
You THINK it can be done?

Where did you get your advanced degrees in physics from?


RE: Huh.
By euclidean on 12/31/2007 1:03:14 AM , Rating: 2
I think we'll just forget copyright laws and in 10 years steal the technology from the aliens...but that's just my thought...lol

I believe we'll get there some day....in my lifetime? I doubt it but It'd be soo cool if we did...In my kids lifetime? maybe...I think with a better energy source (cold fusion, etc) we'd have a lot better chance.


RE: Huh.
By Davelo on 12/31/2007 6:59:12 PM , Rating: 2
The fact that we are being visited is proof enough. Didn't you hear about what happened earlier this year at O'hare airport?


RE: Huh.
By mindless1 on 12/31/2007 7:21:00 PM , Rating: 2
Let's worry about a theory of going faster than the speed of light a while after we manage to go even remotely close to the speed of light, m'kay?


RE: Huh.
By JKflipflop98 on 12/30/2007 9:12:39 PM , Rating: 1
Narrow minded men also said the same thing about sailing around the world and going to the moon.


RE: Huh.
By Rockjock51 on 12/28/2007 9:38:08 PM , Rating: 2
Doubt we'll even get close to the speed of light in our lifetimes. Definitely not close enough for it to matter that you can't exceed it.


RE: Huh.
By masher2 (blog) on 12/28/2007 11:34:16 PM , Rating: 4
Depends on how you define it. A large particle accelerator already pushes particles to 99.99999% of the speed of light.

If you're talking about interstellar travel, we've had the technology to accelerate a spaceship to about 5% of the speed of light for decades-- all it takes is a large cargo of H-bombs and a massive "pusher" plate...just keep throwing a steady stream of bombs out the back.

Using nanotechnology to build an ultralight payload, we could potentially get to 25% of the speed of light or higher by using a solar sail-- nothing but an ultra-thin sheet of silverized polymer. Unfurl it close to the sun, and light pressure alone will quickly accelerate it. We could potentially build something like this in as little as 15-20 years.


RE: Huh.
By NullSubroutine on 12/29/2007 1:24:39 AM , Rating: 1
I believe they can get particles (perhaps its something else) beyond the speed of light in accelerators. I would get some links but I am at work.


RE: Huh.
By Goty on 12/29/2007 2:45:14 AM , Rating: 2
Nope, sorry. To travel at the speed of light you need to be massless, so no particles.