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The new Beta release of Firefox 3.0 is drawing glowing reviews, is shaping up by some's estimates to be an "IE slayer"

With months left for Mozilla to fulfill its promise of releasing Firefox 3.0 to the public in the first half of 2008, the company just launched its third beta candidate of the browser, leaving only one beta left.  This indicates that Mozilla is well on its way to meeting its intend release timeframe.  And if initial reviews of Firefox 3.0 beta 3 are to believed, Mozilla might be able to release the browser today with little worries if it had too.

While Mozilla obviously will take its time, and stick to perfecting the fourth beta candidate, the third beta looks much more like a finished candidate than its prior brethren.  The first beta focused on speed and leanness, and surprised testers with visibly faster page loads than the current generation Mozilla, Opera, Apple, and Microsoft browsers.  The next beta maintained this new speed while beefing up security with a number of key improvements and some minor user interface modifications.

Now the third beta has delivered substantial user interface changes, which for the most part seem to make browsing a much more comfortable experience.  The new bookmark tool built into the URL bar has been tweaked to be much more intuitive.  A number of graphical changes have also occurred among these is a new "keyhole look" for the backward and forward button, in which a large circular backward button rests snugly beside a smaller curved forward button.  The two separate navigation dropdowns for the buttons, which appeared in all previous versions of mozilla have been fused into a single drop down, offering a full history.

The new beta also adopts default themes equally well from Windows and Linux, helping it to blend seamlessly with your desktop environment.  In Linux the build can take GTK Themes, Tango styles, or GNOME icons, with equivalent ease.  The integration is reported to be so good that the browser literally looks like GNOME application, which will be pleasing to some Linux users.  Mac users can also cheer as OS X themes are finally included.  Further, for Mac users support for native widgets in forms is also implemented, opening up many new possibilities.

The tabbing interface now allows you to drag and drop tabs between windows, a seemingly natural, but until now unsupported, feature.  The status bar also has an added download indicator, which gives you a quick visual update on your downloads.  Further the URL autocompletion algorithm has been significantly improved, allowing smarter searches that help you go back to pages you frequently visit, quicker.

A key new feature is the inclusion of a built in add-on manager.  Add-ins have been part of whats fueled the popularity of Firefox, as they can add extra functionality for everything from ad-blocking to RSS feeds.  Now users can use this built in manager to search, find, and install add-ons without ever going to the add-on page again (previously users had to navigate to a page on Mozilla's website).

While Microsoft plans on revealing key features of its new Internet Explorer 8 browser at its MIX conference in March, the browser is still a long ways away from its "late 2008" release date.  By the looks of Firefox 3.0 beta 3, those months stretching between the final release of Firefox 3.0 and the release of Internet Explorer 8 may be particularly long and painful for Microsoft's IE team, as they are forced to play spectator as Mozilla offers up a greatly improved browser.

Mozilla's third beta is available here for those eager to give it a test drive.


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Add-Ons
By BMFPitt on 2/13/2008 1:30:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
A key new feature is the inclusion of a built in add-on manager.
Anyone know if there will be a feature to "save" your add-ons for moving to a second PC or doing a reformat? Currently you have to re-find everything by hand or manually download XPI files, which is really annoying.

Maybe someone can make an add-on for that.




RE: Add-Ons
By PAPutzback on 2/13/2008 1:35:19 PM , Rating: 1
Seeing as the post comment button in FF isn't working for me. I get this.
Oooops! Something went wrong, we've sent the details to the webmaster.

I can only use links. Yeah real IE Slayer here. Anyways seeing as you mentioned Addons can you let me in on a few "Top" ones.


RE: Add-Ons
By Etsp on 2/13/2008 2:07:57 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think that particular problem is FF related... and I managed to post this comment on FF just fine.


RE: Add-Ons
By phusg on 2/14/2008 10:22:31 AM , Rating: 2
That's an implied logical fallacy there mate, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_anteceden...


RE: Add-Ons
By Etsp on 2/14/2008 12:51:29 PM , Rating: 2
I can see how my comment can be misinterpreted, so let me clarify: That "Oops, something went wrong" error seems to be something that occurs on the server side of things, and as such, is not related to the browser one is using.

As proof that posting a comment on Dailytech works with Firefox, I noted my personal experience. In most cases where a site is broken in Firefox, the broken aspects will NEVER work. It is not a situation where it "Sometimes works" and as such, the example is valid.

Of course, it's also possible you replied to the wrong post...


RE: Add-Ons
By nemrod on 2/13/2008 2:12:54 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not a native english speaker so my version is not english. This is related to javascript.

It should something like
tools / options
then
I don't know the translation but icon is the earth,
activate java
activate javascript


RE: Add-Ons
By Screwballl on 2/13/2008 2:46:49 PM , Rating: 2
Tools
Options
Content

Make sure javascript is checked


RE: Add-Ons
By nemrod on 2/13/2008 2:59:01 PM , Rating: 2
thanks for the clarification


RE: Add-Ons
By nemrod on 2/13/2008 2:46:26 PM , Rating: 2
At this time there is 23 comments, 22 are rate 2 (the initial rate). Why this guy's rating drop to -1?
He don't know that javascript is mandatory for certain functionnality?
He asks for wise opinion on addon.

Where is the difference vs this OP comment:
"Anyone know if there will be a feature to "save" your add-ons for moving to a second PC or doing a reformat? Currently you have to re-find everything by hand or manually download XPI files, which is really annoying.

Maybe someone can make an add-on for that."

He is not enough geek for you?

Strange world where people take time to push "not worth reading" instead to take 5s to help...


RE: Add-Ons
By Screwballl on 2/13/2008 2:49:24 PM , Rating: 2
PAPutzback is the one that is voted down for tying to pawn off user error as some Firefox bug... reminds me of these moronic YouTube comments.


RE: Add-Ons
By nemrod on 2/13/2008 2:54:19 PM , Rating: 3
"tying to pawn off user error as some Firefox bug..."

Why take this version? Most of people I know use computer without be "expert". My feeling, is he just don't know what he must do like 9 persons on 10.


RE: Add-Ons
By nemrod on 2/13/2008 2:56:52 PM , Rating: 2
adding that asking for addon opinion show he is interested by firefox and not trying to troll


RE: Add-Ons
By Jonwww on 2/13/2008 4:11:08 PM , Rating: 3
You might want to try FEBE for backing up extensions. Also check out CLEO & OPIE. They work great. All available from this page:

http://customsoftwareconsult.com/extensions/


RE: Add-Ons
By idconstruct on 2/13/2008 9:07:03 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Yeah real IE Slayer here.


The post would have been fine without that comment. If he's not a 'geek' user he shouldn't make uninformed defamatory assumptions.


RE: Add-Ons
By nemrod on 2/14/2008 2:21:13 AM , Rating: 2
I'm agree he could have not made this comment but again, it looks for me just like a disappointed comment. Again, people without computer knowledge doesn't understand why that doesn't work. Give him a little help and he could progress and understand that he should not have play with those options. (or it is the people which has installed firefox for him which has thought that desabeling javascript is more "secure")
if you just rate, he can't progress.
(I believe help is what we could hope on a subject on open source software?)


RE: Add-Ons
By idconstruct on 2/14/2008 5:39:32 PM , Rating: 2
don't get me wrong, i agree with you for the most part. Raising the level of 'common computer sense' would be great.

to be honest though, the way i learned most was by 'playing' with options and screwing with the system. And now, 7 years and many reformats later, i consider myself among the smartest users for my age, or at least i think i am since besides my best friend i have never seen anyone irl come close to our level.


RE: Add-Ons
By Ashrac on 2/13/2008 5:17:32 PM , Rating: 2
NoScript-Great Security Addon
Foxmarks-Lets you synch bookmarks between machines
Tab Mix Plus-Lots of Tab options (multirow) and session backup
IE Tab-Open full IE tab in Firefox
PDF Download-Lets you open PDF's as HTML, download them, and other options
VideoDownloader-Lets you download embedded Videos
Download Statusbar-Download Manager on Status Bar
Fasterfox-Performance and apperance tweaks for Firefox.

There are a lot of other really good ones, but these are the core of what I always have installed. I use Mozbackup when I need to backup, and sometimes when it backsup extensions they will work afterwards, sometimes not. Better to just reinstall them.


RE: Add-Ons
By KeypoX on 2/13/2008 11:36:15 PM , Rating: 2
hey thanks Ashrac, you listed a few that i havent seen but really would need such as IE tab (sometimes need to watch this special videos with text for school) Fasterfox sounds cool, have the others though :)


RE: Add-Ons
By mikeyD95125 on 2/13/2008 8:01:55 PM , Rating: 5
For adblocking filterset.g and AdBlock Plus kick ass. NEVER see ads.


RE: Add-Ons
By lakrids on 2/14/2008 8:51:46 AM , Rating: 3
filterset.g is outdated and the list itself haven't been updated for months.

The internal subscription mechanism in Adblock plus is far superior and gives you a wider range of choices depending on which regions and language sites you browse in: http://adblockplus.org/en/subscriptions


RE: Add-Ons
By 306maxi on 2/17/2008 11:37:16 AM , Rating: 2
I'll probably get voted down for this but does anyone really care about ads these days? They help keep sites running and they're not usually that intrusive anyway. Yes you get rollover ads, stupid flashing ones and popups but tbh they're fairly rare.


RE: Add-Ons
By lakrids on 2/19/2008 2:56:39 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps rare for you. Browsing habits are different for everyone, everyone have different needs. Believe it or not people have the right to control what is allowed to enter their computer and they have the rights to protect their computer against malware and viruses served through ads these days...


RE: Add-Ons
By Iliketofrolic666 on 2/20/2008 12:18:53 AM , Rating: 2
I have no problem with ads either, most of the annoying ones are blocked by no script anyway.


RE: Add-Ons
By gcthompson on 2/13/2008 1:37:44 PM , Rating: 5
one word : MozBackup


RE: Add-Ons
By pckiller00 on 2/13/2008 2:58:31 PM , Rating: 2
+1 agreed, anytime I redo my machine, I count on MozBackup to backup all of my FF settings,etc.

MozBackup can be obtained here:
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/


RE: Add-Ons
By pauldovi on 2/13/2008 1:41:04 PM , Rating: 2
There is an addon for it, but it isn't very good.

Good idea none the less.


RE: Add-Ons
By UBB on 2/13/2008 1:58:39 PM , Rating: 2
Look up the add-on CLEO. It works great.


RE: Add-Ons
By Clauzii on 2/13/2008 2:00:50 PM , Rating: 2
It could be built in. Just like the automatic Bookmark importer/exporter. That would be a nice feature. Unfortunately I can't speak about what's going to happen in IE8, since I've been using FF since november 2007. it tends to start way slower than IE7, but overall I'm very happy with FF.

In the 2.0.0.11 version I wasn't able to get access to my Netgear RP614v4 after a router reset. That's the only thing IE7 was used for on my machine (twice), but since FF 2.0.0.12, there's no problem with that anymore. Nice :)

But as a user I'll wait for the final version of FF3, before I'll change.


RE: Add-Ons
By drinkmorejava on 2/13/2008 2:03:14 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone know if Mozilla ever plans to add a start page like Opera, or there's at least a good plugin for it?


RE: Add-Ons
By lakrids on 2/14/2008 8:48:23 AM , Rating: 2
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/481...
This one is even superior to Opera's speed dial


RE: Add-Ons
By TomCorelis on 2/13/2008 2:11:32 PM , Rating: 2
There's already a way to do that. Start firefox with the /profilemanager command-line parameter and make a new "profile" to be saved in your Firefox folder. Back up the entire Firefox folder when you reformat -- or even better, install it to a drive that stays persistent -- and then with each new Windows install, start Firefox with the /profilemanager switch and "recreate" a "new" profile to the same profile folder.

I use it to keep a persistent Firefox install between my Vista/XP/Linux tri boot... and since FF is installed to my data drive, the folder is still there between OS drive formats.


RE: Add-Ons
By oab on 2/13/2008 2:26:47 PM , Rating: 3
Or another way is to just copy the "Mozilla" folder inside "Application Data" to a usb key, and then after re-formatting, just copy the file back to application data. It gets add-ons, bookmarks, history, saved passwords, everything.


RE: Add-Ons
By TomCorelis on 2/13/2008 2:36:33 PM , Rating: 2
I hate mucking around Application Data. Plus, copying FF's AppData folder also copies the browser cache, which takes freakin forever.


RE: Add-Ons
By mindless1 on 2/13/2008 3:47:53 PM , Rating: 2
FF 3 beta 3 defaults to 50MB browser cache. Writing that to a modern USB2 flash drive as a zip file (not necessarily even compressed, just a one-file container) shouldn't take more than a few seconds unless there is some other unusual problem.


RE: Add-Ons
By Hypernova on 2/13/2008 4:46:16 PM , Rating: 2
All this talk bout copying profiles and nobody thinks of Portable FF? I use it as my main browser. You can still install Add-on (I got 80+) though plug-in's is trickier.

Keep the whole folder in D: and every time you formate just pin the exe to the start menu and you get everything back.


RE: Add-Ons
By Alexstarfire on 2/14/2008 1:09:51 PM , Rating: 2
I always set mine to the lowest value anyways. I feel there is never a reason to cache anything, cept cookies. Web pages change too much for me to go look at old ones, even if it is only a couple of minutes old.


RE: Add-Ons
By mallums on 2/18/2008 6:44:25 AM , Rating: 2
You obviously have never been constrained to dialup, have you? There are still a lot of people who need that cache.


RE: Add-Ons
By Spoelie on 2/19/2008 7:34:33 AM , Rating: 2
The browser cache is separate from your profile folder, so no actually (when on windows xp anyway)

C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox <- profile folder

C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\ Local Settings \Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox <- temp and cache folder


RE: Add-Ons
By phusg on 2/14/2008 10:16:49 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks for the tip, nice to know it works between Windows and Linux.

Does this also work if you put your profile on a network drive that is simultaneously accessed from more than one PC? Or is that asking for trouble?


RE: Add-Ons
By qt on 2/13/2008 3:50:01 PM , Rating: 2
To move your addons from one PC to another one all you have to do is this.
Under XP: Go to Documents & Settings/username/Application Data/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/somename.default and copy the extensions folder and all subfolders to an external drive.

Under Vista: /Users/username/AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/Firefox/Pro files/somename.default and copy the extension folder and subfolders to an external drive.

After you reformat or go to a second computer, Start Firefox and let it make a new profile. Close Firefox. Follow the appropriate path depending on the operating system and just copy the extensions folder you saved to your external drive to your PC, overwriting the newly created profile extensions folder. Restart Firefox and you will find all your extensions and themes ready to go.

By the way, make sure you have Hide Hidden Files & Folders unchecked and be sure you have Hide OS Files unchecked as well. If you do not, you will not be able to see the AppData or Application Data folders.

Hope this helps you.


RE: Add-Ons
By elmer92413 on 2/13/2008 6:24:17 PM , Rating: 2
BMFPitt, you can already do this. It's called saving your profile. Navigate to your profile while Firefox isn't running save it somewhere (flash drive, cd, whatever you want) then when you go to a new computer just plop the profile on there and you are all set. It's like you never left.


RE: Add-Ons
By rebturtle on 2/13/2008 9:34:42 PM , Rating: 2
http://customsoftwareconsult.com/extensions/febe/f...

quote:
Firefox Environment Backup Extension

FEBE allows you to quickly and easily backup your Firefox extensions. In fact, it goes beyond just backing up -- It will actually rebuild your extensions individually into installable .xpi files. Now you can easily synchronize your office and home browsers.

FEBE backs up and restores your extensions, themes, and (optionally) your bookmarks, preferences, cookies. and much more.


I've been using it for a couple years now, and it works great!


RE: Add-Ons
By Kadoro on 2/14/2008 12:01:10 AM , Rating: 2
FEBE

Never have to find my add-ons again.

It packages them all up into a single add-on that I take with me along with my portable apps firefox.

Get to my new desk.
Use the Portable Apps FireFox to download Firefox.
Install the XPI that FEBE created all my add-ons!!


RE: Add-Ons
By probedb on 2/14/2008 4:14:14 AM , Rating: 2
It's called FEBE!


RE: Add-Ons
By Magnus Dredd on 2/14/2008 2:20:17 PM , Rating: 2
This has been out for a LONG time.

FEBE (Firefox Environment Backup Extension)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/210...

CLEO (Compact Library Extension Organizer)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/294...

I have a single .xpi on my web server that I can download that contains ALL of the extensions I use.


RE: Add-Ons
By 13Gigatons on 2/16/2008 11:46:55 AM , Rating: 2
There have been add-ons that do that for a long time. Try FEBE it's already reach version 5.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/210...


It might be ...
By MistaP on 2/13/2008 1:38:16 PM , Rating: 3
It might be ready ... except for the fact it still has issues displaying simple table layers per the percentages specified in the code.

It might be an IE slayer ... except for the fact that IE ships with 99% of computers sold and the people who aren't fanboys or tech savy, the majority of computer users, will keep using IE.




RE: It might be ...
By diablofreak on 2/13/2008 1:43:39 PM , Rating: 5
firefox, great for home and personal use. but personally i hate the fact that version 2 has so many memory leaks that it is contantly taking at least 512MB. talk about bad programming and a resource hog! (unless extensions are to blame, of course, which i have like, 3?)

and, the general corporate world will never embrace firefox completely. it is non-standard, there are too many ways to make customizations, and it's not backed by a corporate entity (MS). Even if you have install rights, try telling your help desk or your intranet app admins that something doesn't work with firefox, they'll laugh and then walk away.

MS will take a hit on the home use market share, they don't need to worry on the business users side.


RE: It might be ...
By Homerboy on 2/13/2008 1:55:49 PM , Rating: 1
512MB?

I have 4 FF windows (with tabs) open right now. 75MB total.


RE: It might be ...
By Cygni on 2/13/2008 2:03:57 PM , Rating: 3
The memory problems are so much better on Firefox 3. Thats the biggest change ive noticed. Ive been using the daily builds of Firefox 3 for the last 4 months or so, and its been a truly enjoyable experience. Its speedy, its logical, it addresses some of the general problems of Firefox 2... heck, ive dealth with less crashes in general using the Minefield builds of Firefox 3 than i get with the release version of Firefox 2.

I cant wait for the last bugs to be hammered out.

Oh hey, by the way Mozilla, give us the Home button back. ;)


RE: It might be ...
By encryptkeeper on 2/13/2008 5:26:11 PM , Rating: 2
Oh hey, by the way Mozilla, give us the Home button back. ;)

Yeah! I haven't even tried it yet but the review that this article links to has a few pictures. I noticed the home button was strangely absent...

Overall, I love FF except for memory leaks, (which usually cause it to take no more than 180 mb, with 12 or so tabs and been open for 8 days straight) and a few scripts that never seem to run right except on IE. The add-on IE tab works fine for those, but if you don't know they were supposed to be there, how would you know to check? Is that going to be addressed in FF3?


RE: It might be ...
By PetesEscapade on 2/19/2008 9:27:55 PM , Rating: 2
AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

Where is the home button? It's my crutch when my surfing goes all wonky! I've noticed this issue with some Opera themes especially. I won't use a browser without it.


RE: It might be ...
By noxipoo on 2/13/2008 3:29:55 PM , Rating: 2
i can't use ff3 because it isn't compatible with EMC navisphere yet and ff has never worked right for DRACs (Dell RAC) console. 2 big corporate killers right there.


RE: It might be ...
By probedb on 2/14/2008 4:49:50 AM , Rating: 2
Nothing to with Firefox though is it? If they can't make their webapp compatible with a major browser then they should get new jobs.


Firefox gets way too much attention
By Staples on 2/13/2008 1:42:17 PM , Rating: 2
I have been using Opera for years and it is certainly a better browser than Firefox 2. I have not tried 3 yet but what makes Opera great are features that probably will not be copied. My only beef with Opera is that the bookmarks are local and there is no google toolbar addon. I think it is ridiculous that bookmarks are not held on an online server in any modern day browser. For my solution, I am forced to install Google toolbar in IE and Firefox to use its online bookmark storage.




RE: Firefox gets way too much attention
By HotRod427 on 2/13/2008 2:10:46 PM , Rating: 2
Hold onto your pants. (Or just try the dev snapshots) Opera 9.5 , it'll sync more than your bookmarks. http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/my-opera-sync...


By lakrids on 2/14/2008 9:00:39 AM , Rating: 2
How ironic. Opera users are always fast to blame Firefox and IE for copying some features. But we never hear anything from them when Opera copies features like these from Firefox's add-on community.


RE: Firefox gets way too much attention
By TomZ on 2/13/2008 2:16:32 PM , Rating: 2
I used Opera for a while last year and I liked it, however, I found that I constantly ran into web sites that didn't render properly or were missing key functionality. The same sites rendered just fine in IE and FF. And it seemed silly to use two browsers, a main one and a "backup" - makes for lousy workflow.

I'm guessing that's why Opera's market share is so low - they can't get past the chicken-and-egg thing. Their share is so low that most web sites don't focus on Opera compatibility, which in turn hurts Opera's market share.


RE: Firefox gets way too much attention
By TomCorelis on 2/13/2008 2:35:00 PM , Rating: 2
Supposedly, with upcoming versions of Firefox and IE, and current versions of Opera being fully ACID2-compliant, many of those problems should go away.

Though, IE8 -- with its choice of 3 different rendering modes -- may still complicate matters.


By mollick2 on 2/13/2008 10:59:31 PM , Rating: 2
lets hope there is some way to force the browser to render the page in a certaint mode.


RE: Firefox gets way too much attention
By diablofish on 2/13/2008 2:46:07 PM , Rating: 2
I use Opera 9.5 on one computer and FF on another. Opera on my Athlon 3200, 2 GB RAM, XP Pro crashes randomly when I switch between tabs or click to download a file. I'll re-open it and do the same task, and it will be fine. It seems buggy to me.

FF 2.0x on my Athlon X2 4400, 2 GB RAM, XP Pro is solid but eventually (if I leave it open for hours with lots of tabs) uses up over 500 MB of RAM.

I like them both: if only Opera wouldn't crash all the time or FF wouldn't eat up my resources after sustained usage, I'd use one or the other more consistently. Based on the reviews, I'll probably install FF 3 beta tonight and give it a whirl.


By Staples on 2/13/2008 3:02:32 PM , Rating: 2
Just to note, Opera 9.5 is beta. The current release is 9.25. And in my experience, Firefox crashes more often than Opera 9.25. Up until about 6 months ago, you would even notice sites that got fixed with every update of Opera. For those of you who say you used it a year or more ago and had problems with sites not rendering correctly, you may want to give it another try.

There are still a few sites with heavy use of javascript that do not work correctly however they are few and far between (well the new Live mail interface is one of them). Mostly the problem I run into is sites that check which browser you have and will only serve to Safari, Firefox, Netscape and IE. The absolute worst example is that on Sprint's account management, if you log in with Opera on freaking Windows, it will give you the 160x240 cell phone browser page. And you wonder why Sprint is losing money left and right.


Firefox is suffering from feature creep!
By TomCorelis on 2/13/2008 2:14:34 PM , Rating: 1
In my opinion, the Mozilla team needs to think about abstracting all these features to plugins, a la Winamp. Firefox is becoming more and more bloated, which is making it look more and more like the original Mozilla browser... which is EXACTLY what Firefox's original creators intended to avoid!

For example: Firefox has become progressively more inefficient with memory usage. People have accused it of having a ton of memory leaks, though I haven't verified these claims myself.




By ajfink on 2/13/2008 2:39:54 PM , Rating: 2
In my experience, and in all the more technical reviews I've read, FF3 uses much less memory than FF2. Right now, with two windows and several tabs in each (some with streaming media), I'm rocking about 130MB of memory usage. In FF2, it would have been almost twice that.

This Beta is good, and I'm even getting used to the slightly different look.

What's IE, again?


RE: Firefox is suffering from feature creep!
By Zurtex on 2/13/2008 7:15:06 PM , Rating: 3
Have you used Firefox 3 or know anything about it?

Firefox 3 feels considerably less bloated than Firefox 2, the only features that would be appropriate to make as extensions are spell check and AwesomeBar, both of which enhance browsing experience so much it was decided they they should be included in the OS.

You in all likelihood don't have memory leaks like you think you do, you just don't know how much Firefox 2 is legitimately using memory and how much is due to memory fragmentation and the like. Firefox 3 massively solves these memory problems and Beta 4 includes a better memory allocator so it's going to get even better.


By Zurtex on 2/13/2008 7:17:06 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry, slight correction, when I said OS, I meant default install. Was typing up something else at the same time :=/


Is it SO hot?
By kontorotsui on 2/13/2008 2:39:38 PM , Rating: 2
If the new Firefox is so hot as that babe in the picture, I'm going to download it, many times :P




RE: Is it SO hot?
By BucDan on 2/18/2008 1:17:25 PM , Rating: 2
Well I dont know about you guys, but i fell for the article from the babe on the pic. Nice way to advertise, using the fade technique to attract guys to the girl and not the firefox idea...lol... but yea she is hot though, hot blonde w/ nice big...umm yea


I'm surprised...
By frobizzle on 2/13/2008 3:00:50 PM , Rating: 2
...so few people use (or even know of) Mozilla's other browser, SeaMonkey. It feels very much like the old Netscape (pre-AOL raped) browser and does its thing well without a lot of bells and whistles. Maybe it's more nostalgia but I prefer the older-style browser.

Okay, it is nostalgia!




RE: I'm surprised...
By ajfink on 2/13/2008 11:38:41 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, it's a lot of bells and whistles in it's own way. It's kind of the Works to Mozilla's Office Suite, if you catch my analogy.


FF3 B3
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 2/13/2008 1:43:15 PM , Rating: 3
I'm currently using FF3 B3 on my Eee PC and it's great. I especially like the fact that I can browse for new extensions from within the add-on interface.

It just sucks that not all of my extensions are compatible (not that big a deal considering this is beta software). And I can't seem to get Nightly Tester Tools to work with the latest beta so that I can force the install of incompatible extensions.




By phatboye on 2/13/2008 1:47:06 PM , Rating: 3
This thing is sleek. Page rendering is noticeably faster. The URL bar is easier on the eyes. I haven't had much time to really get down and dirty with this browser yet, but so far I'm liking what I see.

I've never really have been excited over web browsers before but I can't wait till Opera 9.5 FF3 and ie8 are all released this year.




hmm
By TomCorelis on 2/13/2008 3:43:43 PM , Rating: 2
Wasnt Firefox 3 supposed to have something similar to AskEraser? Whatever happened to that?




Step Backward
By vanka on 2/13/2008 3:48:06 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The two separate navigation dropdowns for the buttons, which appeared in all previous versions of mozilla have been fused into a single drop down, offering a full history.


This is the one of the biggest pet peeves that I have about IE7, I was so happy that Firefox 2 didn't go that route. I just hope that there's some way to go back to separate Back/Forward drop downs.




Tiling
By Martimus on 2/13/2008 3:58:12 PM , Rating: 2
Does this version support tiling tabs? I often want to do that when transposing something from one page to another.




...got tiles?
By bupkus on 2/13/2008 4:47:56 PM , Rating: 2
Can you tile tabbed windows inside FF3?




moving tabs
By boing on 2/14/2008 5:44:52 AM , Rating: 2
He says you can't currently drag a tab from one window to another but i've just tried it on FF2 and it works just fine.




Err...
By Kyanzes on 2/18/2008 5:34:33 AM , Rating: 2
Where's the blond that initially drawn my attention to this article?




IE Slayer...
By DASQ on 2/19/2008 2:31:30 PM , Rating: 2
IE will never be slain until Microsoft stops bundling it with Windows.

Technically Firefox has been 'IE slaying' for quite a few years now.




Firefox 3 Beta 3 UI
By Iliketofrolic666 on 2/20/2008 12:27:06 AM , Rating: 2
Am I the only one that hates their new "keyhole" design for the forward and back buttons?




By encryptkeeper on 2/13/2008 5:13:51 PM , Rating: 1
By the looks of Firefox 3.0 beta 3, those months stretching between the final release of Firefox 3.0 and the release of Internet Explorer 8 may be particularly long and painful for Microsoft's IE team, as they are forced to play spectator as Mozilla offers up a greatly improved browser.

Well, anyone who frequents the site knows I'm not a big MS fan. Hell, the only thing I use IE for is to download FireFox (and I use the IE Tab addon if it's necessary). But since MS doesn't charge for the use of it's browser, why should they worry about releasing IE 8 after FF 3? They'll just copy FireFox's new features anyway, it's what happened with IE 7. The only thing they'll want to do with IE 8 is kick the team in the ass to get them developing faster. At the rate they're going, Mozilla will have an alpha of FF 4 by the time IE 8 arrives.

BTW, I love reading the Firefox posts, even if it's just to use that one picture.




I Like FF........
By ioKain on 2/13/08, Rating: -1
RE: I Like FF........
By mattclary on 2/13/08, Rating: -1
RE: I Like FF........
By Alias1431 on 2/13/2008 10:38:32 PM , Rating: 2
Firefox will soar to the number one position, when developers finally create an add-on that allows the user to punch people in the face over the internet.


RE: I Like FF........
By ioKain on 2/13/2008 11:26:30 PM , Rating: 2
Whoa, somebody needs to pull the stick from you know where. Lighten up, life's gonna be a long one without a sense of humor champ.


RE: I Like FF........
By shreddR on 2/14/2008 12:10:59 AM , Rating: 2
Who really cares about update after update with new features.
Its a damn browser ffs, get OVER it.


RE: I Like FF........
By freeagle on 2/14/2008 1:36:11 PM , Rating: 2
you got that from bash.org, dont you


FF
By Alphafox78 on 2/13/08, Rating: -1
"A politician stumbles over himself... Then they pick it out. They edit it. He runs the clip, and then he makes a funny face, and the whole audience has a Pavlovian response." -- Joe Scarborough on John Stewart over Jim Cramer














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