quote: Oooh good comeback, ace. I really felt the burn on that one.
quote: ....production is only necessary in order to fulfil sales, and therefore no additional sales means no additional costs
quote: They could easily build a electric Maserati and sell it for $80,000.
quote: So everyone should be forced to compete with Tesla and offer a high-end high priced EV basically? Even if they aren't a high-end brand, even if they don't WANT to offer expensive vehicles?
quote: The whole reason they're selling them is to meet CAFE fleet standards. In other words, they have to sell these cars in order to sell any cars.
quote: But then instead of losing some money, you're losing ALL. Hello?
quote: Not how the math works. Fiat spent a huge flat dollar amount on R&D for the thing. They "lose 14k per car" based on the number of cars projected to sell at 32k. If they priced it at 46k, they CAN lose more than 14k per car because they might sell far fewer units. If they make a couple and not sell any, they aren't just eating the cost of making those few, they are also swallowing all of the R&D.
quote: Okay, but when you say "don't buy this car", the number of sales is going to go down anyway.
quote: But then instead of losing some money, you're losing ALL. Hello?Please tell me you don't run a business with people under you depending on you...
quote: morons on capitol hill
quote: While a "true conservative" might energize the republican base some, they would also energize the democratic base to vote against them, and most of the real independents that vote will go against them as well.
quote: You stated your own personal conclusions, which simplified a much more complicated situation.
quote: they would also energize the democratic base to vote against them, and most of the real independents that vote will go against them as well.
quote: I just proved to you
quote: One reason I like someone like Christie. He would have the balls to act like a bull in a china shop, breaking up the status quo.
quote: I'm sorry but I just don't buy that he had nothing to do with that "Bridge Gate" thing.After 8 years of Obama's Chicago thug style of governance, we need someone with way more integrity than Christie.
quote: Even in top trim it is severly limited compared to even the basic gas 500, mostly range and refueling time, something Tesla is spending huge sums of money to try and mitigate to eke out another 1% of people that might have the money to buy one.
quote: I would not call 265 to 300 miles a day "severely limited". You obviously may have some issues taking a Tesla on a long road trip....
quote: That thing is f'ugly.
quote: Don't that have to actually sell them to meet their CAFE numbers?
quote: A lot of these other manufacturers are doing the same thing. It is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
quote: It turned out that hybrids were the right place to put your money.
quote: This is just par for the course with Mint and EV's. If someone can't match the Tesla Model S, they automatically suck at making vehicles or are just purposely making "weak ass" EV's to "protect" their ICE IP.
quote: How EV proponents ever think EV's priced into the stratosphere is the way you make this technology mainstream, is beyond me.