Sources: This American Life [blog], [transcript], [podcast]
quote: And she listens to this, and she says, but you are not a businessman. And I say, that's true, I am not a businessman.
quote: And she says, and you aren't going to buy their products. I say, that's true, I'm not going to buy their products.
quote: And she says, you will lie to them.
quote: And I say, yes Cathy, I'm going to lie to lots of people.
quote: Further, who's to say that Cathy isn't on the Foxconn take these days?
quote: Hell, for all we know is that Rob Schmitz was hired by Apple to pull at the loose ends of Daisy's story until it unraveled.
quote: This one lie should not detract from the massive body of evidence that Apple has been useless at controlling Foxconn's terrible treatment of workers.
quote: However, when China correspondent for the public radio program Marketplace, Rob Schmitz, who lives in Shanghai, he immediately became suspicious. Elements of the report didn't stack up. It was the little details that clued in Mr. Schmitz and sent of his sense of danger. For example Mr. Daisey claimed in his monologue that security guards at the plant carried guns -- something Mr. Schmitz new was illegal in China. In China only the police and army can carry guns in public, under threat of stiff penalties.
quote: The guns did not have guards.
quote: So he "Lied", big fucking deal, Apple does all the damn time. Example: "he New iPad" Quad Core GPU, NOT CPU for those dumb Apple fucks that are already bragging. Higher Res display when your eye or braid does not give a shit.
quote: So people hate Apple. They hate Christians.
quote: They hate people who are good at what they do, because they just aren't good at anything.
quote: All of the outrage whipped up around the issue of the conditions of workers in Apple's Chinese supply chain has, it turns out, been based on deliberate lies designed to further someone's career. Shame on him.
quote: the heaps of corroborated reports from investigative journalists from around the world.
quote: So... using slave labor to build our toys is totally copacetic, cuz like, that's just like the human condition man, and we can't do anything to change that man, so let's just profit off of it as much as we can man, and not give two shits about the slaves who do all the work man.Survival of the fittest man, or at least, those lucky enough to be born in a developed country man.You're adorable.
quote: Working conditions at Chinese manufacturing plants where Apple Inc's iPads and iPhones are made are far better than those at garment factories or other facilities elsewhere in the country, according to the head of a non-profit agency investigating the plants.The Fair Labor Association (FLA) is beginning a study of the working conditions of Apple's top eight suppliers in China, following reports of worker suicides, a plant explosion and slave-like conditions at one of those suppliers, Foxconn Technology Group.Auret van Heerden, president of the FLA offered no immediate conclusions on the working conditions, but he noted that boredom and alienation could have contributed to the stress that led some workers to take their own lives.In addition to Foxconn, FLA investigators will later visit facilities of Quanta Computer Inc, Pegatron Corp, Wintek Corp and other suppliers, who are notoriously tight-lipped about their operations.After his first visits to Foxconn, van Heerden said, "The facilities are first-class; the physical conditions are way, way above average of the norm."He spent the past several days visiting Foxconn plants to prepare for the study."I was very surprised when I walked onto the floor at Foxconn, how tranquil it is compared with a garment factory," he said. "So the problems are not the intensity and burnout and pressure-cooker environment you have in a garment factory. . It's more a function of monotony, of boredom, of alienation perhaps."
quote: You appear to be an advocate for the factory profiteers,
quote: only a few of them are committing suicide
quote: The crocodile tears are shed by those excited by a chance to knock Apple but who were, and remain, silent on the worse conditions in the supply chains of other companies or products that they happen to like.
quote: The suicide rate in the Foxconn work force is lower than the national average suicide rate for China.
quote: Apples to oranges. Show me a comparison of the suicide rate between the workers in a United States factory and the workers in one in China and we'll talk. (Preferably show me the ones where the folks feel compelled to do the Dutch while on the clock.)