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Facebook is forcing users to make this switch because of the positive results from doing so in Europe

Android and iOS Facebook users will have to start using the separate Messenger app for their FB messages, according to TechCrunch
Facebook said it would stop allowing both iOS and Android users from using the messages tab in its main iPhone and Android apps, instead redirecting users to the standalone Messenger app.
The Messenger app is Facebook's hub for everything related to messages. It allows users to send messages, photos, group messages, videos, stickers and audio clips. 
According to Facebook, it's forcing users to make this switch because of the positive results it saw after pushing European Facebook users to do the same. The company said users send more data on Messenger, and that people on Messenger reply about 20 percent faster.
“In the next few days, we’re continuing to notify more people that if they want to send and receive Facebook messages, they’ll need to download the Messenger app," said Facebook in a statement.

"As we’ve said, our goal is to focus development efforts on making Messenger the best mobile messaging experience possible and avoid the confusion of having separate Facebook mobile messaging experiences."

User opinions could go either way on this, either liking the added features in Messenger or complaining that they don't want two different Facebook apps. 

If you're a mobile web, Windows Phone, iPad, feature phone, Paper, or desktop user, you can get away with not switching to the Messenger app... for now. 

Source: TechCrunch

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By 7ugnut on 7/29/2014 12:20:17 PM , Rating: 5
Not going to do it. The Facebook app is the greediest, creepiest and most obtrusive of any major app on my phone, and I've come close to removing it many times. I rooted my phone specifically so that I could shut FB down and keep it shut down...and had to disable *over 90* phone events (plug in the charger? Facebook starts up.) to do it. Nope. Folks are just going to have to wait until I get back to my 'puter.

RE: Nope
By NellyFromMA on 7/29/2014 12:31:09 PM , Rating: 3
If you're that concerned (and you should be IMO) perhaps you should look into the permissions you likely auto-approved for Google Maps.

I think they are exactly the same.

RE: Nope
By DT_Reader on 7/29/2014 1:03:03 PM , Rating: 5
Yes, but Google Maps is a useful tool that actually helps me accomplish stuff, whereas Facebook is a distraction that burns my data plan and wastes my time.

RE: Nope
By NellyFromMA on 7/29/14, Rating: -1
RE: Nope
By ritualm on 7/29/2014 8:35:25 PM , Rating: 4
Official FB apps are huge battery hogs and require more permissions than they really need, such that one of the best advices to debloat a phone/tablet is "uninstall FB".

RE: Nope
By Dobo on 7/30/2014 7:13:46 PM , Rating: 2
My recommendation : Myspace APP, get the official one otherwise same story. Still in touch with all my friends from 1999.

RE: Nope
By therealnickdanger on 7/31/2014 11:08:24 AM , Rating: 4
Or... do like I did: delete the Facebook app and just create a link to the Facebook mobile website on your phone's home screen. It's only "on" when you want it to be, using the browser of your choice, blocking ads, doesn't scrape or track anything on your phone, and operates faster and more reliably than the app.

I've followed suit with most other apps that I used before and now outside of the standard Google suite of apps on my phone, I barely have any others. Most apps are effectively custom browsers with unlimited access and control over your information. Cut it off.

RE: Nope
By Motoman on 8/2/2014 11:46:10 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly. There isn't really any point to "apps" on a phone or tablet when you have a web browser. Just an effect of people being gullible and stupid.

Which reminds me...if you're a FB user anyway...well, there you go.

RE: Nope
By tayb on 8/4/2014 4:56:02 PM , Rating: 2
There is no greater battery hog than Google Maps. And do I really need to go into Google Maps requiring more permissions than it really needs?

I do agree that Google Maps is far more useful than facebook but as the OP pointed out value and usefulness is perceived by each user separately.

RE: Nope
By techxx on 7/29/14, Rating: -1
RE: Nope
By techxx on 7/29/2014 12:45:32 PM , Rating: 2
I also haven't heard anyone complain about Google+ and Hangouts being two separate apps. Pretty much everyone would agree it makes sense because they did it this way from the beginning.

Another advantage of having Messenger separate is that many users only use Facebook for messaging and don't even need/want the full-blown application to only eat up extra space and resources. Facebook just gave everyone more granular control over what WE want... oh noes!

RE: Nope
By inighthawki on 7/29/2014 2:20:16 PM , Rating: 2
I also haven't heard anyone complain about Google+ and Hangouts being two separate apps.

People actually use those?

RE: Nope
By Manch on 7/29/2014 5:42:36 PM , Rating: 3
No, and that's why he hasn't heard anyone complain! lol

RE: Nope
By Banana Bandit on 7/29/2014 6:21:50 PM , Rating: 2
Haha. That's good :D

RE: Nope
By inighthawki on 7/29/2014 7:46:17 PM , Rating: 2
That was where I was going with it ;)

RE: Nope
By DT_Reader on 7/29/2014 1:04:22 PM , Rating: 2
I have no problem with the split because I don't use Facebook Messenger anyway. I have SMS for that.

RE: Nope
By Flunk on 7/30/2014 10:53:01 AM , Rating: 2
I'm with you. I'm just going to remove the Facebook App entirely instead.

By AlvinCool on 7/29/2014 12:20:21 PM , Rating: 5
You know, do I really need Facebook on my phone?

RE: Delete
By DT_Reader on 7/29/2014 1:06:58 PM , Rating: 2
I find it handy for posting photos I take with my phone. That's pretty much it. Photos I take with my camera I post from my laptop, over the web. I hardly ever use the Facebook app for reading my Facebook news feed - I much prefer the larger screen on my laptop for that. About the only time I really use the Facebook app is when I'm traveling.

RE: Delete
By marvdmartian on 7/30/2014 8:54:52 AM , Rating: 2
Not sure about how easy it would be on your phone, but on my tablet, I'll just open the Facebook website page on my browser, and message away happily there.

Screw them, and their "we'll MAKE YOU do it" attitude.

desktop app
By Murloc on 7/29/2014 12:01:23 PM , Rating: 3
why did they kill the desktop messenger app, then force you to use it on the phone?

On the desktop it was actually useful. The skype implementation is buggy.

RE: desktop app
By Krinosy on 7/30/2014 9:47:16 PM , Rating: 3
Because by forcing you to use the browser on the desktop you get exposed to more ads.

Facehook is elitist
By artifact81 on 7/29/2014 12:14:02 PM , Rating: 3
Wow Facehook, a new low. So I have to install a 11.49mb app that instantly has my phone giving me "low on space" warnings and is running slow. Excuse me if I wanted a cheap smartphone, but this type of elitism has to stop. Whatever happened to compatibility across platforms and networks as a selling point? Granted I use the service, but that is becoming more and more not a choice than I would like to see. I think people should be more aware of the benefits of an open-source mentality where people are allowed more say in how to manage their apps, devices and computers. This is just a power-grab.

RE: Facehook is elitist
By DT_Reader on 7/29/2014 1:09:53 PM , Rating: 2
You can always ditch both apps and access Facebook from your phone's web browser.

OK, that was "apparently spam". Wow. Then how's this: You can always eschew both Facebook apps and access Facebook using a web browser app on your phone instead.

By Nephelai on 7/30/2014 8:58:02 AM , Rating: 2
Not a big FB user but I'd imagine it's more about ppl spending most of their time chatting and not generating add revenue?

App sizes?
By jmunjr on 8/4/2014 3:20:12 PM , Rating: 2
Curious how much the combined size of the two apps will compare to the current messaging functional single Facebook app. A lot of people don't have the storage space to have lots of apps.

By Diane on 8/23/2014 10:42:06 PM , Rating: 2
Where's the security? What more do "They" now have access to once they have access to be able to message your friends through messenger? Scary!

He (spammer/hacker -not my friend) literally typed through my FB messenger

Hesitation ... So the person can reply. Then it continued.... Hesitating after each line.

"here`s a webpage"
"that has an"
"appIe iPad`Air giveaway`"
"i received one"
"last week"
"get one before"
"they run out"

I took a screenshot of his message and posted it on his FB page and said "I think you have been hacked or have a bug. You supposedly sent me this but I don't think it was you." To EVERYONE.... Do NOT click on that link or you will be the next victim.

It took control of his messenger!!!!???? Now when I try opening his Facebook page it says "content not found". Hopefully it was Facebook that quarantined his account and not the spammer/hacker.

No surprise.
By NellyFromMA on 7/29/2014 12:30:08 PM , Rating: 1
Frankly, FB only keeps me logged in so I can keep in touch with certain long-distance family members and friends serving in the military.

If it weren't for either of those things, I'd be off it altogether as their business practices are at least as bad as Google's.

I don't even have the app installed on my phone. I use the awful mobile website because the amount of information they can obtain about me is substantially lesser this way. The app wants permission to practically your entire phone, and I'm sure messenger will follow suit.

If they disable the ability to message on the mobile website as well I'll probably just use that event to "delete" my profile altogether.

Now you're going to have two apps competing for your device permissions to keep track of instead of one.


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