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Facebook concept design  (Source: cdn.pocket-lint.com)
Facebook will build it with HTC and use its own operating system

Facebook is set to team up with HTC and join the smartphone arena with its own device as soon as mid 2013.

The new smartphone will be made in joint with HTC and will offer Facebook's own version of a mobile operating system. Some have speculated that Facebook may use a version of the Android mobile operating system, since it can be modified, but that part is unclear for now.

To help with the mobile venture, Facebook has hired former Apple employees Greg Novick, who developed the touchscreen user interface; Scott Goodson, who helped create the stock market application; Tim Omernick, who worked on the device's software, and Chris Tremblay, who also worked on the software.

The Facebook smartphone is likely the answer to one of the social giant's major issues: mobile advertising. Last year, Facebook had $3.15 billion in total advertising sales, but none of this came from ads on mobile devices.

Also, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg recently said that shifting to mobile was Facebook's greatest challenge because the way people use it is much different than on a desktop computer.

By releasing a smartphone, Facebook would be able to monetize mobile in a much larger way. Also, by designing its own operating system for the mobile device, the shift to a mobile Facebook experience should closely mirror the desktop version.

The Facebook smartphone is due out in mid 2013.

In addition to creating its own smartphone, Facebook also said it plans on improving the existing Facebook iOS app. Many users have complained about it being slow or not working properly, but Facebook is on the case.

Source: Bloomberg



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Bzzzt incorrect
By shabby on 7/26/2012 6:54:00 PM , Rating: 5
RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By aurareturn on 7/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By NellyFromMA on 7/27/2012 10:27:13 AM , Rating: 2
What about the fact that NO ONE wants a facebook phone?


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By dark matter on 7/29/2012 4:45:52 PM , Rating: 2
Just because I don't want a facebook phone, doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't.


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By aurareturn on 7/26/2012 7:23:04 PM , Rating: 2
I think Mark Zuckerberg is wrong if he doesn't think having his own phone and OS is worth it.

They can't grow at the paste they want if they have to rely on iOS and Android.


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By p05esto on 7/26/12, Rating: 0
RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By aurareturn on 7/26/2012 9:05:35 PM , Rating: 2
Oh wait, I forgot that people are geeks here and like to hang out in tech forums all day rather than use Facebook.

What's with the hate for FB?


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By NellyFromMA on 7/27/2012 10:31:17 AM , Rating: 2
I'm pretty sure the point isn't people 'don't use fb' in fact, that is highly untrue. It's volume of usage is above in Google.com itself. It is the single most used web site.

The issue is that while facebook is a good enough brand for a social network, I don't know ONE person who wants a phoen produced by or emblazened with the logo of FB. It makes no sense, especially when MS is a customer prime for integration. I'm assuming costs forced them to rather invest in their own OS rather than form some type of exclusive feature arrangement with MS, but let me tell you...

No one wanted a facebook phone with it was offered by MS in the past and no one will want it now. There is not a single smart phone that cannot get on FB in one manner or another and frankly there isn't any room for a new contender in the OS arena.

It's questionable in a multitude of ways and is seemingly a decision that can only be born of shareholder greed and stupidity.

Just my two cents.


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By dark matter on 7/29/2012 4:47:25 PM , Rating: 2
There are almost 7 billion people on the planet.

Facebook has 1 billion users.

Remind me again of the number of friends you have.

And then about the number you have discussed the topic of a facebook phone with.


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By bupkus on 8/1/2012 9:34:42 PM , Rating: 2
Where are people going to when they log on?

Right now my gf just got home and where is she right away right next to me now?... FB. Google is only a portal when she wants to go somewhere new. FB can list whatever ads it likes or more likely what that particular viewer likes to buy. This happens before she even realizes there is something she wants. Google is outside the loop and that is not where Google wants to be.

But, as long as FB is using Google to serve up the appropriate ad for the right person it's quite the symbiotic relationship. Why indeed should FB create their own OS unless they decided to build their own competing search engine?


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/26/2012 10:07:38 PM , Rating: 2
Only about 500 million people... actually more like 800 million now...


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By tayb on 7/26/2012 11:00:13 PM , Rating: 2
Who uses facebook? Approximately 1 in every 10 people on the planet.


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By Lord 666 on 7/27/2012 8:37:06 AM , Rating: 2
Or bored women who just talk about how they hate Mondays, how much wine they drink through the week, and how they look forward to Fridays.

FB has become so female centric, they should just change the color from blue to pink.


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By dark matter on 7/29/2012 4:48:50 PM , Rating: 2
Lonely much?


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By Digimonkey on 7/27/2012 8:40:01 AM , Rating: 2
I agree, Facebook is old and irrelevant. IRC is where it's at.


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By NellyFromMA on 7/27/2012 10:33:50 AM , Rating: 2
Nicely done.


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By fredgiblet on 7/27/2012 6:11:51 PM , Rating: 2
Bah, IRC is already getting to be old hat, BBSs are where it at. Get on my level.


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By dark matter on 7/29/2012 4:49:33 PM , Rating: 2
Morse code and the telegraph is where it's at.

And even that is too fancy for me!


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By bsd228 on 7/27/2012 2:35:12 PM , Rating: 2
> They can't grow at the paste they want if they have to rely on iOS and Android.

People (most of them) aren't going to select a phone just to use facebook. I see no reason to expect it to sell any better than MS7 phones.

They need to fix their clients for iOS/Android if they want to move ahead.


RE: Bzzzt incorrect
By FormulaRedline on 7/27/2012 8:26:29 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah...what's the deal here. What is the source for this DT article? The WSJ reported the same thing this morning, that Zuckerberg was saying it didn't make sense for them to build a phone.

I have to say I tend to trust the WSJ more than DT, but who knows...


Phone
By p05esto on 7/26/2012 8:57:24 PM , Rating: 2
Die Facebook already. A phone? You've got to be kidding. Zuck needs to cash out now, Facebook is over, yesterdays news. Take your money and RUN buddy, don't let your ego get in the way.




RE: Phone
By inperfectdarkness on 7/27/2012 1:45:57 AM , Rating: 2
As if privacy settings on their website weren't labyrinthine enough...

...Now you have the opportunity to buy a phone of theirs which will most likely track every movement you make.

Seriously, if I wanted big-brother, I'd move to the UK.


RE: Phone
By NellyFromMA on 7/27/2012 10:36:08 AM , Rating: 2
Facebook as a company makes billions... a million a day in ad revenue alone. How the hell is that over? People WANT a social network, even if YOU and your buddies (maybe) don't. This is exhibitted by the fact FB use continues to rise, not decline.

I wonder how you assess a successful bussiness? If it's something that you want? Or if its continuing to be profitable?

I prefer the latter, but hey, that's just me.


RE: Phone
By theapparition on 7/27/2012 11:59:59 AM , Rating: 2
While I agree in principal, profitability in a volatile market doesn't ensure continued success. It takes vision and ability to execute future trends.

Kodak was highly profitable right up until digital cameras became mainstream, then it was like driving a truck off a cliff.

I don't know regarding Facebook. I'm seeing more and more people getting tired of it. At one time, Myspace was the hottest social network on the planet and see how quickly that died when something better came along.


Privacy?
By iamkyle on 7/26/2012 11:38:07 PM , Rating: 3
With Facebook's long history of "protecting your information" why would anyone want this product? Watch the EULA of the handset will have traps in it that will make you agree to Facebook monitoring your phone calls, texts, and whatever else you do on the handset.

No thanks.




RE: Privacy?
By NellyFromMA on 7/27/2012 10:37:27 AM , Rating: 2
Idk, sounds like Google to me. No one on DT is complaining about that.


RE: Privacy?
By dark matter on 7/29/2012 4:52:20 PM , Rating: 2
No different than Google, Microsoft or Apple or your network carrier/ISP when the CIA/FBI/Government taps into the backdoor provided for them.

If you think you have any privacy, you're utterly deluded.


Facebook phone
By degobah77 on 7/27/2012 9:02:37 AM , Rating: 2
There are more than enough phones out there as is. How many different !#$%ing phones do we need on this planet?




RE: Facebook phone
By dark matter on 7/29/2012 4:53:54 PM , Rating: 2
Nice to see a comrade amongst us. I thought we were extinct.


Morons
By Motoman on 7/27/2012 11:54:24 AM , Rating: 2
FB needs a phone like Wonder bread needs a toaster.

It makes no f%cking difference what device you use to access FB.

FB is an APP. Period. By definition, that's what it is, what it has been, and what it always will be.

There is zero sense in making a bespoke FB device - unless FB honestly thinks they're going to neuter the FB app for other phones to try to push people to use their own device...which would end horribly for them.

This is nothing more than the thrashing about of a company trying to figure out some way to create growth when there is no natural room left for them to grow. IPO came about 5 years too late.




RE: Morons
By ritualm on 7/27/2012 8:42:42 PM , Rating: 2
If Facebook does release a phone in its namesake, Big Brother will be all over it in a heart beat. The rumored project has Chris Hansen written all over it.


Question
By ProZach on 7/27/2012 12:16:35 AM , Rating: 1
What is Facebook?




RE: Question
By Omega215D on 7/27/2012 5:14:13 AM , Rating: 2
Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Facebook is. You have to see it for yourself.

Take the blue pill this post ends and you can wake in your bed living the way you've always lived.

Take the red pill and I'll give you a link that shows you how far the internet hole goes.


Need more developers
By Dug on 7/27/2012 5:04:43 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know if anyone here has used the Facebook app on iPhone or Android, but it sucks!

If they can't even write an app that just pulls up basic info without crashing, then they really need to step up their game to compete.




I don't have a Facebook account
By ShaolinSoccer on 7/26/12, Rating: -1
By GulWestfale on 7/26/2012 9:09:18 PM , Rating: 2
i do have an account; it helps me keep in touch with overseas friends&family... but i wouldn't buy their phone.

i don't see what they could offer in the mobile space that others can't. with android, i can choose from many different phones; and they all have a facebook app. same with windows mobile. FB will have just ONE model, like apple, but unlike apple, they aven't got a huge catalog of apps and the world's best marketing (not to mention the world's most loyal fans).

i also believe that FB will use this device to kick their data gathering into a higher gear, and i'm not really into having my whole private and personal life sitting on one of zuckerberg's servers.


RE: I don't have a Facebook account
By NellyFromMA on 7/27/2012 10:38:17 AM , Rating: 1
Cool, I guess they should just quit while their ahead since you won't be using their software. They are doomed without you!


RE: I don't have a Facebook account
By ShaolinSoccer on 7/27/2012 10:54:04 PM , Rating: 2
Butthurt much?


By dark matter on 7/29/2012 4:55:17 PM , Rating: 2
Cool story bro.


By dark matter on 7/29/2012 4:54:42 PM , Rating: 1
Probably because it forms part of your restraining order.


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