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Facebook could be in trouble if it continues making sweeping changes

Social networking went mainstream thanks to MySpace – most teens and many tech savvy people of all ages began using the site before rivals like Facebook had even hit the web. Today MySpace has been vastly outpaced by Facebook in user numbers.

Facebook's user base is ballooning in the U.S. and around the world with teens to older adults flocking to the service to keep in touch with family, friends and meet new people. Reuters reports that some believe that Facebook is close to achieving "technological lock in" of its dominance. Technological lock in is the idea that as society gets used to using technology, users are less and less likely to switch technologies.

UCLA student Alyssa Ravasio told Reuters, "I think Facebook is the most valuable Internet commodity in existence, more so than Google, because they are positioning themselves to be our online identity via Facebook connect." She continued saying, "It's your real name, it's your real friends, and assuming they manage to navigate the privacy quagmire, they're poised to become your universal login," she said. "I would almost argue that Facebook is the new mobile phone. It's the new thing you need to keep in touch, almost a requirement of modern social life."

One example of a technological lock in that Reuters cites is something that most of us will be familiar with -- the QWERTY keyboard. People have stuck with QWERTY layout since it was invented in the 1870's despite alternative layouts for keyboards that some feel are superior.

According to Comscore, Facebook had 112 million unique visitors in the U.S. in December compared to the 57 million MySpace visitors and 20 million for Twitter. A technological lock in is not guaranteed for Facebook though. UCLA professor of communications studies Tim Groeling said, "It's their [Facebook's] game to lose at this point."

Facebook could lose users if it continues to anger its user base with sudden sweeping changes along the lines of the changes it recently made to its privacy settings. The changes were a way for Facebook to get more traffic in the ramp up to monetize the site.

Ravasio warns, "All these [internet] companies saying they'll figure out how to monetize later seem to be forgetting that 'monetizing' has historically always meant a degradation of user experience quality."



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A great day
By spwrozek on 1/27/2010 11:47:38 AM , Rating: 4
It was a great day when I closed my account (in 2006 prior to highschoolers being added).

It was a good tool and served a purpose during college for those few years(we got access October 2004). But now I feel as though it is a life sucking entity similar to WOW. People spend so much time updating and taking quizzes and posting on walls. I feel like they miss out on what is actually going on in the world. (If it is what you want to do fine doesn't matter to me.)

So everyone can keep their facebook and I will continue to use email and the phone as needed. Most likely while people are updating that they are eating an omelet I will be backpacking, mountain biking, kayaking, skiing, snowboarding, sailing, fishing... etc...




RE: A great day
By SublimeSimplicity on 1/27/2010 12:02:45 PM , Rating: 5
How will you hear about my virtual farm then?


RE: A great day
By Mitch101 on 1/27/2010 12:34:55 PM , Rating: 4
He isnt giving up his Twitter account just Facebook. You can tweet about it. Dont forget to send the daily president complaint and god is good tweet.

I used facebook to connect with a few people I had a hard time finding because and because classmates charges a fee i'm not willing to pay. One more to go and I can close my Facebook page.

As for Twitter which should be mentioned I never looked into doing it and dont care to. I dont need to know what those people are doing the 5 minutes they are away from their facebook page.


RE: A great day
By quiksilvr on 1/27/2010 12:47:16 PM , Rating: 2
The only reason I use Facebook is for chatting reasons. No one uses AIM anymore :(


RE: A great day
By mcnabney on 1/27/2010 1:47:39 PM , Rating: 5
I know. Who would have thought that in 2010 America Online Instant Messenger wouldn't be popular?


RE: A great day
By Alexstarfire on 1/27/2010 2:42:34 PM , Rating: 2
No one uses pretty much any form of IM anymore.... unless you count Facebook chat. Facebook Chat is so damn buggy and slow though. Texting has become the new IMing, IMO.


RE: A great day
By MScrip on 1/27/2010 5:14:39 PM , Rating: 3
It's funny though... in the old days we had ICQ, and then the more mainstream AIM, YIM, MSN, etc. Those were real-time chat clients, plus everyone would check people's "Away Message"... the precursor to the Status Update.

Now, while you can still do real-time chat on Facebook... I think people are more than happy just posting a "What's up?" on someone's Facebook Wall.

I used to hate saying "hello" to someone on AIM because it would usually end up being a long, drawn-out conversation. Sometimes you just wanna say something short, and real-time chat is not the way to do it.

You can post a sentence or two on someone's wall... then they respond when they have time... and it's much more efficient.


RE: A great day
By CENGJINYIWEI on 1/31/10, Rating: 0
RE: A great day
By XINFU4 on 1/27/10, Rating: -1
RE: A great day
By neihrick1 on 1/27/2010 12:13:11 PM , Rating: 2
how are you posting on DT if you're doing all that stuff?

j/k i know what you mean, i got my own life going on, i dont need to know what others are doing everyday. i dont use mine, maybe log in once a month just to approve friends, dont use twitter. it was way better when it was a college only site too.


RE: A great day
By jonmcc33 on 1/27/2010 12:22:34 PM , Rating: 4
I just use it to keep up to date with friends across the country.

I block all of those FarmVille, etc posts.


RE: A great day
By therealnickdanger on 1/27/2010 4:08:28 PM , Rating: 4
Same here. It's been a fantastic tool to keep in touch with friends and family, remember birthdays, new births, see graduation pictures, arrange parties, etc. I don't use a single app (ignored them all), so I never see annoying posts.

It's so easy, a caveman can do it.


RE: A great day
By ajfink on 1/28/2010 5:36:34 AM , Rating: 2
Ditto. I have no "applications" and probably have one of the longest blocked-app lists on Facebook.

It's good to keep in touch with people (since I'm on the other side of the planet from the vast majority of my friends and family at the moment).

Having said that, Facebook is a bloody plague.


RE: A great day
By ksherman on 1/27/2010 12:34:33 PM , Rating: 4
You do realize that you can use Facebook without taking quizzes and updating about your omelet, right? Its a great tool for updating people on what your doing, for free! Nearly half of the traffic to my website comes from when I post it on my Facebook profile.

Just sayin', there is a legitimate use that doesn't turn it into an evil time hog. I only login a few times a week.


RE: A great day
By Steven Morgan on 1/27/2010 2:12:47 PM , Rating: 2
I totally agree. I use it to keep my family and friends updated about the our new twin boys. It's also a great place to share photos and videos with them. It's a lot less work than e-mailing them to everyone. Plus, I don't have to worry about spamming people that only feign interest in my kids for fear of offending me. I know I use the ignore function on FaceBook quite a bit. Finally, it's a great way to communicate with people without actually communicating with them. :)


RE: A great day
By jconan on 1/27/2010 4:29:35 PM , Rating: 2
This is probably one of Facebook's greatest virtues, communicating without spamming and that's why I quit MySpace. Also it's very well organized compared to MySpace. YaHoo IM is also out to grab a chunk of this Facebook market by adding social networking to its collection of many apps. The only thing that irks about Yahoo is that it's not organized and lacks consistency throughout it's user interface in contrast to Google.


RE: A great day
By StinkyWhizzleTeeth on 1/27/2010 12:53:24 PM , Rating: 2
You can keep your e-mail and phone, I'll just wait until I see them in person. :-)


RE: A great day
By callmeroy on 1/27/2010 1:36:10 PM , Rating: 5
Since when can't a person go out and enjoy their hobbies like biking, camping, skiing, etc. etc. AND still spend a whopping whole 15-30 mins on facebook a day to keep in touch with friends?

The "you can't have a normal life and must be a fat, unhealthly , social deviant loser if you go online for any reason other than work/business in your spare time" comparison is really getting quite old and its very very over used these days.


RE: A great day
By deputc26 on 1/27/2010 5:25:31 PM , Rating: 3
Hear hear! if I wasn't unable to walk atm I'd join you.


Technological lock in?
By icanhascpu on 1/27/10, Rating: 0
RE: Technological lock in?
By grath on 1/28/2010 12:39:38 AM , Rating: 5
tech·nol·o·gy
noun
1 a : the practical application of knowledge especially in a particular area
b : a capability given by the practical application of knowledge
2 : a manner of accomplishing a task especially using technical processes, methods, or knowledge
3 : the specialized aspects of a particular field of endeavor

Facebook is a practical application of knowledge
Facebook is a capability of that practical application
Facebook is a manner of accomplishing a task
Facebook is a specialized aspect of the field of endeavor that is social networking

4 out of 4... looks like a technology to me.


RE: Technological lock in?
By icanhascpu on 1/28/2010 2:20:39 AM , Rating: 5
Why don't you go use the knife technology, get your a ss in the kitchen technology and make me a sammich technology?


FB??
By Pedrom666 on 1/27/2010 12:21:02 PM , Rating: 3
Maybe I'm too old and the world is passing me by but, like the old 7-UP commercials . . . "Never Had It, Never Will" I am glad FB can do what it does and I don't see a problem with it, it's just not for me.

Btw - I do like my cell phone though, I find it handy to have.




RE: FB??
By ZachDontScare on 1/27/2010 2:18:25 PM , Rating: 3
Quite honestly, I'm 'old' like you, and find thats where it really becomes useful. Using FB, I was able to re-connect with a lot of old friends - some I havent talked to in 20 years.

I think FB grew so rapidly because it attracted a lot of older members.

Now Twitter... that I've never seen the point of.


RE: FB??
By BruceLeet on 1/31/2010 7:18:34 AM , Rating: 2
I can see use for Twitter in the business department, particularly public relations.

The misuse by a 16 year old kid who's just 'omg broke up with him/her after 15 years </3' etc.

Greatest application for twitter is the businesses who actually use it.

P.S. I have never used twitter, but seeing how my cousins on FB post that childish on their facebook I seriously doubt twitter is that far off.


RE: FB??
By Lazarus Dark on 1/27/2010 9:29:48 PM , Rating: 1
I'm less than thirty and I don't get it. I got on facebook years ago because friends said I had to be there. I've made... one post in almost five years. I really don't like facebook. I hate it actually, I've checked it twice a year at best. I don't like the way it works and I don't care about what is going on in my friends and families daily lives. What would we talk about when I see them in person if I already know everything they've been doing? Not to mention you can't have any real conversation on Facebook. I see more meaningful and interesting conversation in Dailytech comments than I've ever seen on Facebook.

And the article mentions a comment about "real names" and real identity...
Um... actually I used a fake name for Facebook. I really didn't want any of those losers from high school "friending" me. My real freinds... I see in person all the time. Why would I need facebook?


OMG WTG Alyssa!!!1 BFF!11
By IcePickFreak on 1/27/2010 1:35:30 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
UCLA student Alyssa Ravasio told Reuters, "I think Facebook is the most valuable Internet commodity in existence, more so than Google..."


Seriously Alyssa? Yes, it's much more valuable to know Susie screwed Brad in his BMW after the football game within minutes of it happening, than searching for information on anything and everything else.

I've never had an account on any of these sites and can count the amount of times I visited all of them combined on one hand. How will I ever survive?




RE: OMG WTG Alyssa!!!1 BFF!11
By callmeroy on 1/27/2010 1:46:00 PM , Rating: 2
I used to think like you....

And frankly if my Facebook account only rec'd those kinds of updates I'd either close the account or at least remove those people from posting such drivel.

Unlike most people -- with only a couple exceptions --- everyone on my facebook are people I know in real life, and I didn't meet them via any website or technology.

Mostly friends from back in my high school days, neighborhoods I have look since moved away from or they are relatives.

My friends and I keep in touch and communicate on when to meet up for dinner, movies, concerts, whatever...

In that regard -- it is a useful tool.

(ok one disclaimer: I do also keep up with "The Guild" via facebook because i think Felicia Day is simply awesome and I enjoy her work)

I suppose lots of folks use FB for stupid updates about what they ate and who slept with who....that's not what I use it for (not to mention I've always been private about certain things that even if you knew me in RL I wouldn't tell you some things...let alone on a webpage).


RE: OMG WTG Alyssa!!!1 BFF!11
By Octoberblue on 1/27/2010 2:34:53 PM , Rating: 2
You're talking about value in terms of the service it provides to the user. I'm pretty sure she was talking about value in terms of potential future earnings. Especially since she used language like "commodity" and "positioning". A great teacher is more valuable to their students and to society. But a great football player is more valuable to his agent, bank, etc.


Is this really news?
By fezzik1620 on 1/27/2010 11:58:19 AM , Rating: 3
Facebook is big? No way...
This feels like it more belongs in the blog section.




It's already happened
By Spivonious on 1/27/2010 11:36:42 AM , Rating: 2
As soon as I started seeing Twitter, Facebook, and RSS icons next to each other on mainstream websites, I knew that there will never be a real competitor to those two sites.




meh
By The Imir of Groofunkistan on 1/27/2010 12:36:28 PM , Rating: 2
It's an updated version of the chat room. It'll be replaced by something else in about ~10 years just like chat rooms were.




Cost revalues.
By DominionSeraph on 2/1/2010 3:09:52 PM , Rating: 2
If a QWERTY keyboard required you to watch a 20 second ad before it allowed you to type, would it have a 'technological lock' over Dvorak?




A little addicted are we
By Ratinator on 1/27/2010 11:50:55 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
It's the new thing you need to keep in touch, almost a requirement of modern social life.


My social life is perfectly fine without facebook. Actually it is quite fine without a cell phone as well. I got rid of my account shortly after I created it. I am POed though that my information is still being kept even though I asked for my account to be removed. This is just one of the many things I have against them.




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