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School district remotely activated webcams of school laptops in student's homes

The use of technology in classrooms around the country is a great thing. Students often find learning much easier and more enjoyable when computers are integrated into the classroom curriculum. Sometimes that same technology can also have serious consequences for students and school districts.

The FBI has officially announced that it is probing a case in which a Pennsylvania school district allegedly activated webcams of school provided laptops that were in use in student's homes without prior consent or warning. The FBI is investigating to determine if the school broke federal wiretap or computer intrusion laws according to an official close to the case.

The FBI became involved in the case when a student and his family filed suit against the Lower Merion school district after the student was allegedly told by school vice principal Lindy Matsko that he was "engaged in improper behavior in his home" with Matsko citing evidence of a photo "embedded" in the student's laptop.

They’re trying to allege that when Blake was holding two Mike & Ikes in his hand, which he apparently loves and eats religiously, that those were pills, and somehow he’s involved in selling drugs,” said the family's attorney, Mark Haltzman.

The district issued Apple laptops to all 2,300 students at two high schools within the district. School officials maintain that the remote activation of webcams is a security feature and is only used to find lost or stolen laptops. According to the district, webcams have been activated remotely 42 times over the last 14 months – 28 laptops have been recovered using the system.

The students reportedly signed documents at school to receive the laptops stating that the webcams could be remotely activated, but the families of the students were not notified. Since the suit was filed, the district reports that it has discontinued the practice of activating webcams.

District spokesman Doug Young, "It's clear what was in place [to notify parents] was insufficient, and that's unacceptable."

Ari Schwartz, vice president at the Center for Democracy and Technology, wondered, "What about the (potential) abuse of power from higher ups, trying to find out more information about the head of the PTA? If you don't think about the privacy and security consequences of using this kind of technology, you run into problems."

Witold Walczak, legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania hit the nail on the head when he said, "This is an age where kids explore their sexuality, so there's a lot of that going on in the [kid's] room. This is fodder for child porn."



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Did I read that right...student consent?
By rtrski on 2/22/2010 11:01:51 AM , Rating: 5
The 'students' signed something consenting to the fact that the cameras might be remotely activated??

Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but how can minors supply legal consent?




RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By Motoman on 2/22/2010 11:03:48 AM , Rating: 5
They can't. And at any rate, if the school turned on a webcam and caught a 13-year-old girl naked in her bedroom, guess what? You just created and distributed child porn, and I hope they take the entire school district down because of it.

The very notion that ANYBODY in the school district thought this was OK is absolutely mind-boggling. Every single administrator in that district should at least lose their jobs - and some of them should go to jail.


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By callmeroy on 2/22/10, Rating: -1
RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By Motoman on 2/22/2010 11:29:51 AM , Rating: 5
I don't care if a cheeseburger pops out of the damn USB port when the camera's on. The fact of the matter is they're turning on a camera on a computer that is very likely to be in the bedroom of a minor where that minor may be doing something totally innocent, like getting dressed, and then *boom* - kiddie porn.


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By tastyratz on 2/22/2010 12:33:36 PM , Rating: 5
Motoman you just made my day. Sadly a cheeseburger will not pop out of the usb slot but the day that it does will be a joyous one for me yet.

+1 good sir for comedic value and truth.


By Motoman on 2/22/2010 1:31:24 PM , Rating: 3
I live to serve. Or is that "sever?" Whatever.

...you want fries with that?


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By snikt on 2/22/2010 2:07:37 PM , Rating: 2
I want my Cheeseburger-enabled USB port nao!


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By Samus on 2/22/2010 9:02:33 PM , Rating: 2
So this is where all that amateur content on pornhub comes from.


By eman007 on 2/22/2010 10:51:48 PM , Rating: 4
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RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By smackababy on 2/22/2010 10:59:08 AM , Rating: 1
The lawsuit I believe concerned an 18 year old using the laptops.


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By Motoman on 2/22/2010 11:11:09 AM , Rating: 5
It's a high school...so while there may be some 18 year olds, the vast majority are going to be under 18.

...either way, the people responsible for this should be severely punished.


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By ChristopherO on 2/22/2010 11:40:14 AM , Rating: 2
What surprised me is that the AP version of this story listed the high school kids as putting tape on the camera to enforce their privacy...

What happened to the class geeks? Had someone given me a laptop, I would have looked for software they can use to control it and subsequently removed it. Are these "loaners" and thus they're prevented from doing that? If they're not loaners, no one can force you what software you need installed, especially if it can remotely control your PC.

I hope that kid that was caught eating candy gets a paid-for trip to an ivy league school out of this (provided he gets accepted), and maybe the school district gets the privilege of paying off the family's mortgage too. Oh, and everyone loses their jobs, in addition to whomever being brought up on charges. I don't care if it pleas down to community-service, but they need to suffer the indignity of being in court.

And as someone else said -- kids can't sign a consent form. Any adult should have known that. It's an absolutely and totally meaningless document unless the child was 18, and thus not a child. (so maybe 10-20% of the senior class falls into that category?)


By Hieyeck on 2/24/2010 8:45:57 AM , Rating: 2
Um...

I think this says it all: http://www.xkcd.com/538/


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By MozeeToby on 2/22/2010 11:54:50 AM , Rating: 2
Actually the lawsuit is moving towards class action status, so it would involve all 2300 students at the school. I sincerely hope heads roll as a result of this one, shame that the school district and therefore the taxpayers will be the ones to pay for this incredibly stupid decision.


By rcc on 2/22/2010 2:06:02 PM , Rating: 3
Ah yes, class action, where the lawyers make out like bandits (fitting, eh) and everyone else gets $10.


By GaryJohnson on 2/22/2010 12:25:55 PM , Rating: 2
It was a 16-year old.


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By Reclaimer77 on 2/22/2010 11:34:48 AM , Rating: 2
What does any of this have to do with teaching kids ? That's what I want to know.

Everyone's head should roll who had anything to do with the decision to spy on students when they were at home !


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By Targon on 2/22/2010 11:41:20 AM , Rating: 2
In theory, the idea is that the camera can be turned on to help recover a STOLEN laptop. The problem here is that the camera was being turned on without the "theft" portion.


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By Mitch101 on 2/22/2010 12:53:02 PM , Rating: 2
One of our guys in Denver heard the school suspected someone of dealing drugs and activated the camera hoping to catch them in the act. They didn't and the family is suing for the emotional trauma of the kid being suspect. Not sure of the truth to the story but Im sure lots of speculations are flying.


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By AWeav09 on 2/22/2010 1:27:59 PM , Rating: 5
Even if this was the reason behind the school's activating the camera, how exactly is it the school's responsibility to catch the neighborhood drug dealer? Punishing a student for having drugs on school grounds is one thing, spying on a student in his home in the hope of catching him dealing drugs is entirely different and certainly unacceptable.


By Mitch101 on 2/22/2010 1:43:35 PM , Rating: 2
Just pointing out one of the stories I heard when I first heard of this before reading the article about it.

Whatever the motiv of the school they stepped way way way over the line but I didn't think I needed to specify that.

Its a federal issue now and anything remotely poor in judgment from this school and staff should come out now as Im sure everything is under a magnifying glass. When the Feds get done it should be one the safest schools for kids. I wish the feds would look into my kids school and right into each and every PTA member.


RE: Did I read that right...student consent?
By wiz220 on 2/22/2010 3:08:01 PM , Rating: 2
No, the district should have just reported this to the police and turned it OVER to them, THEN assited them IF asked, and that's IF they had real information regarding drug dealing.

What I wanna know is, when the hell did schools become another branch of the police?? Why the hell are we seeing all of these schools acting like parents and thinking they have the right to punish kids for things done outside of school (this is by no means the first time a case regarding schools overstepping their boundaries has come up recently)? School administrators seem to be getting full of themselves and hopefully this case will put a stop to it, or atleast get them to think twice. Our tax dollars pay schools to teach, not to be private investigator wannabes.


By JediJeb on 2/22/2010 4:00:47 PM , Rating: 2
I agree that schools should not do this, and really should not have to do it. The problem is there are a lot of parents these days the don't take enough responsibility in their parenting to keep the schools from needing to do more than simply teach. Mix that with some of the administrators these days that think they should be teaching everything from math to morals (some would rather not teach the math) and our schools have become something most of us who graduated over twenty years ago would not even recognize.

What they did was wrong on so many levels. A question I have though is how many parents saw their children bring home a new laptop and never inquired if there were rules or agreements that went along with it? The ability for this to happen should not have been as big of a suprise as it was, unless the school took efforts to keep it quiet. If my child brought home a laptop I would have been asking under what conditions its use was allowed, and if the school had full rights to it I would have warned my child not to be putting things on it they did not want to be public, just as you would not put private files on your work computer.

The blame lies with the school admin, but it is also the partents responsibility to be keeping an eye on that admin. How many parents today even know who their school board member is? Or question them about what they believe about how a school should be run? The only way to prevent this in the future is for the entire population to be active in the governing process as we should be instead of just handing the responsibility off to whoever stands up and says they will take it.


By rippleyaliens on 2/23/2010 1:43:27 AM , Rating: 2
What puzzles me.. Even with a Web CAM, that is not a 100% reliable way to figure out, where the laptop is.
90% of the time, the OS is re-loaded, on stolen laptops, ROFL..


Was the thing stolen or not???
By BitByRabidAlgae on 2/22/2010 11:37:59 AM , Rating: 3
I've seen mentioned several times by the school officials that "These cameras are only used to recover lost/stolen laptops". Well, if they turned this camera on, then the thing must have been reported lost/stolen. However, I've never seen a statement from the school that "We were investigating a stolen laptop..."

This begs the questions, if they weren't looking for a stolen laptop, why was the camera activated? Or, if they were looking for a stolen box, why not say so? Also, why not accuse the kid of falsely reporting a stolen laptop?

Either this kid was targeted specifically for some reason, or they're randomly turning these things on just to make sure little Johnny isn't up to no good.




RE: Was the thing stolen or not???
By GaryJohnson on 2/22/2010 12:54:03 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This begs the questions, if they weren't looking for a stolen laptop, why was the camera activated?

Maybe it wasn't. At this point (and I think the outraged individuals here are forgetting this) it's still just an allegation.


By NorthernYankee on 2/22/2010 1:37:01 PM , Rating: 3
I live in the general area of this district and have been following this on the local news.

The school district has admitted that they did in fact turn on this camera and witness the alleged drug consumption(Mike and Ike's). The student was called into the principals office about the incident.

They have said time and time again that the camera is only activated when searching for a stolen or missing laptop, but they have not come out and said if this laptop was in fact reported missing or stolen.

There is a lot of information that has not come out yet and over the next days/weeks I think we will find out the true story.

But no matter what there should be some Administrators that should at least lose their Jobs. I have previously worked as a SysAdmin in a local school district and there is no way this slipped under the radar. People in the school district knew what they were doing was wrong but they went ahead anyways and now the tax payers will be the ones to pay for this.


RE: Was the thing stolen or not???
By ChristopherO on 2/22/2010 2:36:32 PM , Rating: 2
Well, that's the thing... There are things like LoJack for laptops. Surprise, it can tell you where stolen equipment is located without violating civil liberties. What a bunch of idiots... I'm sure they could have even gotten a sweetheart deal on LoJack given they needed 2000 copies.

I mean, seriously... Why would any school district need remote-control camera software on a student's laptop? That's just pointless. The only educationally meaningful thing would be GoToMeeting for a class, or perhaps something like Skype if students were conferencing on a project... But none of those programs grant access to local resources unless you allow it.


RE: Was the thing stolen or not???
By wiz220 on 2/22/2010 3:13:44 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed, my company uses laptop recovery software and we have actually used it successfully too. The only time I could see the camera activation being ok is if it's AT the school and they were making sure the kid was paying attention and not messing around in class. I just saw a news piece about schools with computers in the classrooms, they have cameras, and the kids know that at any time an administrator can log in to see what they're doing on the machine.

Once you leave school grounds though, it's unexcusable to be spying on kids, or anyone for that matter.


By ChristopherO on 2/22/2010 5:41:58 PM , Rating: 2
Well, I thought these were student laptops, that maybe had some required software on them for classes. But provided by the school. If these were school property, then I have a whole other set of issues letting a 15 year old take home $2000 in tax-payer property (Do they need to turn them in once they graduate? If they keep them, what's to stop the school from spying when they go to college?). Using a camera, or remote control, in a computer lab, with hard-wired workstations, that's one thing. But as soon as the thing is portable, even for company property, there is a sense of propriety with the device.

I worked at a firm where we hid VNC on everyone's computer (but they knew it was there), except the laptops, purely because we didn't have any right to go into the device when it was at their home. There's no way we could have stopped junior level employees from potentially violating that trust if the software were there.

Still, this whole thing reeks of stupidity.


Make an example of Lower Merion BOE!
By chunkymonster on 2/22/2010 11:58:12 AM , Rating: 2
This is an outright violation of privacy, trust, and extremely intrusive into the daily lives of each one of those 2300 students given a laptop. The fact that the school or BOE did not send a notification letter to the homes of each student who received a laptop implies that they knew it was a gross intrusion and would be interpreted as BOE sponsored and approved surveillance. The 14 instance where activating the webcam resulted in recovering the laptop are in no way justification for implementing the technology. There are certainly more less intrusive ways to ensure the laptops are returned. How about simply charging the parents and/or student for the cost of the laptop plus administrative fees, as well as withholding the students diploma if the laptop is not returned.

The Lower Merion BOE and entire School Staff involved with implementing the webcam surveillance should be censured, fired, made to issue apologies, and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They need to be made an example of.

And to anyone who defends the Lower Merion BOE for use of the webcam, keep drinking th Kool-Aid. Big brother will be watching to make sure you drink enough.

This is another example of why I am a card carrying member of both the ACLU and the NRA.




By SlyNine on 2/23/2010 1:49:46 AM , Rating: 2
Lojack works wonders and can be hardware implemented and even the software version is installed on the boot partition and will get around clean installs of windows. Unfortunately a firewall can block it.


RE: Make an example of Lower Merion BOE!
By CZroe on 2/23/2010 7:58:20 AM , Rating: 2
Wow. I mostly agree with you until you got to this part...
"There are certainly more less intrusive ways to ensure the laptops are returned. How about simply charging the parents and/or student for the cost of the laptop plus administrative fees, as well as withholding the students diploma if the laptop is not returned."
And, no, it's not the lack of a question mark that disturbs me. Did you even consider for a moment that we aren't talking about the student "stealing" his or her own notebook computer? They *report* it stolen. Laptops get stolen all the time and you are giving them a liabilty, not a welcome tool, if you hold the student accountable. Just like they can't legally give consent, they shouldn't be held accountable for property that is likely to get stolen. I was raised on welfare. They only way I got a computer was when my mother was in an accident and they took three years to give us the money for another car (the church finally bought us one after two years without transportation). We used it on a 16MB 133Mhz "IBM P150" (Cyrix) Acer Aspire w/ a 1.1GB HDD. Could you imagine such a family being robbed or burglarized and *then* able to cough up over $2K? Think again.


By chunkymonster on 2/23/2010 11:37:14 AM , Rating: 2
I believe you missed my point, which was that there are less intrusive ways for the Lower Merion BOE to ensure the laptops are kept safe and returned to the school. Just as the suggestion of withholding the students diploma was one idea for ensuring the laptop was returned so was the suggestions of making the students/parents liable for the cost. Also, as the previous poster noted, the school could have implemented a LoJack type solution.

If the student and/or family was burglarized, the laptop stolen, and the incident was reported to the School Administration as well as the local police, then I would expect the School to not hold the student or parents responsible for the laptop.

I also was raised on welfare and I did not own a computer until I was old enough to get a job and buy one for myself. And even then, I could not afford to buy a pre-built Gateway or Dell, I taught myself how to build my own and bought the computer one part at a time. Being raised on welfare is no excuse for not being responsible and accountable.


Nineteen Eighty-Four
By danobrega on 2/22/2010 12:39:36 PM , Rating: 4
Big brother is watching you.




Not really on topic...
By HalJordan on 2/22/2010 11:42:33 AM , Rating: 2
2300 Macs issued to the students? "Affluent" almost doesn't' cut it. I got a scientific calculator assigned to me, which probably retailed for around $15. On topic: I can't believe a gaggle of educators couldn't figure out that such a feature was going to cause more problems than it solved.




mess up
By toto on 2/22/2010 2:59:02 PM , Rating: 2
This is quite messed up for the school district to do this...It's also messed up because I can now see companies doing this..be wary of big brother!




Video on the net
By knutjb on 2/22/2010 7:55:01 PM , Rating: 2
What if, maybe it already has happened, someone gained access to their monitoring system and recording their classmates doing whatever and posting it on the net?

The school didn't think it through, what if an administrator recorded and watched Johny or Julie (would want to be sexist) pulling one off in front of said computer would become an active participant in child p0rn.




What about..
By Smilin on 2/23/2010 7:31:42 AM , Rating: 2
Everyone here has done a good job of pointing out the core topics:

1. A kid can't provide legal consent.
2. Nobody in their right mind could have thought this was a good idea.
3. Wiretapping, kiddie porn etc etc..

This is what I want to know:
How often and for how long were these things activated? You can't tell me that "Oh I just flipped one camera on one laptop on for a fraction of one second and just so happened to catcha picture of a kid with candy that looked like pills."

No. I don't buy that. These things must have been flipped on often, repeatedly, and for long durations just to reach a point where it was statistically possible to catch something interesting on camera.

I don't buy the "oops" part of this at all. There was some intention to this and there is no way you could have mistaken such activities for being legal. I suspect some people are going to end up in jail.




By Yangorang on 2/23/2010 9:45:53 AM , Rating: 2
I have to wonder how they can even find any lost laptops using the webcam, especially considering how they can't tell the difference between Mike and Ike and drugs.

Wouldn't GPS tags or something prove to be much more effective for this purpose anyway rather than remote activating webcams...




UPr0n
By BailoutBenny on 2/23/2010 8:44:31 PM , Rating: 2
Lower Merion is an extremely wealthy district. Do you have any idea how many MILFs and cougars there are? The entire area is nothing but rich lonely wives and their hot ass daughters. I work right up the street from there and it's amazing being passed by 7 series beamers, porsche carreras, benzes, aston martins, ferraris, etc. every day because these are literally the every day driving cars for these folks. No wonder the admins were trying to catch a peek! Trophy wives and daughters galore.




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