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A Chinese man accused of serving as an agent of China will likely spend the rest of his life behind bars after being found guilty

Dongfan "Greg" Chung, 73, was found guilty of economic espionage earlier this week, as he reportedly was an agent for the People's Republic of China while working as an engineer at Rockwell International and Boeing.

During the 10-day trial in Santa Ana, California, without a jury, U.S. District Judge Cormac Carney said Chung served as a Chinese agent for more than 30 years.

"The trust Boeing placed in Mr. Chung to safeguard its proprietary and trade secret information obviously meant very little to Mr. Chung," Judge Carney said in a 31-page written verdict.  "He cast it aside to serve the PRC, which he proudly proclaimed to be his 'motherland.' The court must now hold Mr. Chung accountable for his crimes."

Chung is the first person to be convicted under Economic Espionage Act of 1996, and is believed to have taken Boeing trade secrets -- although it remains unknown how much information he stole, he reportedly took information related to the Delta IV rocket and NASA's space shuttle program.

The FBI and NASA began investigating Chung in 2006 -- he was arrested by the FBI in February 2008.  He had a high-level security clearance from 1973 until 2002, so the federal government will never be sure how much information he had access to.  Members from the Chinese aviation industry first approached Chung in 1979, and from 1985 to 2003, he gave lectures and updates related to current space technology.

Chung, who is a Chinese-born naturalized U.S. citizen, was previously out on bail, but now has been locked up until sentencing on Nov. 9.  He faces a maximum of 90 years for his crimes, and is expected to spend the rest of his life in federal prison.

Chung worked under the radar for a number of years, and was only noticed when Chi Mak, another Chinese agent, was convicted of offering defense articles to China.  Mak and his co-conspirators were given minimum 24-year sentences.

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By Samus on 7/17/2009 7:24:14 AM , Rating: 5
That's a bummer. 25 years of free top-secret technology? maybe we should send somebody over there to do the same thing for us...

RE: Wow
By superPC on 7/17/09, Rating: -1
RE: Wow
By FaaR on 7/17/2009 9:35:22 AM , Rating: 4
Perhaps more a case of principles then, ie, you spy for a foreign power you go to jail for a quarter century minimum. Doesn't matter that much wether the material you had access to was all that critical or not, it's the act itself that warrants a strong punishment.


RE: Wow
By MrBlastman on 7/17/2009 11:59:28 AM , Rating: 5
What a waste of taxpayer money. In China, they would execute you for espionage. We should do the same for this guy.

Why waste any more money on this treasonous traitor?

RE: Wow
By MHz Tweaker on 7/17/2009 12:55:28 PM , Rating: 4
I agree. Execution. He betrayed this county. If he did not agree with the laws then this P.O.S. should not have taken the citizenship oath. Furthermore it should be a public execution and all his and his family's property should be sold. Also his entire family should be expelled.

This may seem harsh but there have to be consequences for this type of crime. He enjoyed everything this country had to offer and the whole while was betraying every man, woman and child that lives here.

I now step off my soapbox.

RE: Wow
By FaaR on 7/17/2009 1:32:39 PM , Rating: 5
I thought the U.S. stood for freedom and justice, not punishing those who haven't committed any crimes.

Confiscating a family's property and expelling them for something they never had part in is not part of western traditions or values. Rather, it's what we would expect of dictatorships like China for example.

Nor would doing so deter any other would-be spies in the future either I might add.

RE: Wow
By Kougar on 7/18/2009 4:14:21 AM , Rating: 2
If this went on for 30 something years then his wife certainly did have a part in it. In the very least she said nothing, in the most she helped facilitate the crimes.

A few articles I read specifically mention that several different letters received from his handlers specificly requested Chung use his wife to pass on certain information back to the PRC instead of Chung himself, for security reasons. The only thing I've not seen mentioned was whether Chung did so.

RE: Wow
By FaaR on 7/18/2009 8:10:48 AM , Rating: 4
I'm talking about principles here, you understand? Not specific cases.

In the west, we generally pride ourselves with living under the rule of law, not knee-jerk gut responses like executing alledged spies and expelling their entire families and confiscating all their stuff.

If the wife's guilty in this particular case then she should be prosecuted as well, due process should be followed as usual of course. That's the way things work over here.

RE: Wow
By Scabies on 7/18/2009 8:06:42 PM , Rating: 2
...was found guilty of economic espionage earlier this week...

...alledged spies...

one of us missed something in the article...

RE: Wow
By DEVGRU on 7/20/2009 11:08:23 AM , Rating: 2
Thats OK.

I take solace in the fact that the FBI, the NSA, and the CIA will now be monitoring every fart, whisper, email, text, letter, package, purchase, and cell phone conversation 24 hours a day, 7 days a week of this guys' family, friends, and other 'naturalized citizens' from China for the rest of their lives in this country.

Nothing they ever do will be in private. His family may or may not be accomplices; but they will certainly pay for his crimes.

I'll take that justice. Part and parcel for any asshole that decides to spy on this country. I'm sure he could give a shit about his family though, as long as Mother China benefits.

RE: Wow
By ClownPuncher on 7/17/2009 2:51:52 PM , Rating: 2
I'm fine with the execution for treason thing, but whats up with violating the Constitution and Bill of Rights to persecute the family members?

RE: Wow
By jconan on 7/19/2009 2:49:37 PM , Rating: 2
then why are the jails so crowded with gangs and those people are released back on the streets when the government has no money?

RE: Wow
By ajoyner on 7/17/2009 9:17:32 PM , Rating: 3
So if somebody in your family commits a crime like this, I guess you would have no problem accepting the same judgment you put on his family.

RE: Wow
By Mojo the Monkey on 7/20/2009 12:53:14 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, he isnt being "executed"... but what do you think the reality is for people convicted of espionage while they serve their time in federal prison? Have yourself a read about Leavenworth and what happens to certain types of offenders.

RE: Wow
By amagriva on 7/20/2009 5:02:13 PM , Rating: 2
Shot him in the head and make the family pay for the bullett! Like chinese do...
This man is 73...Do you know the meaning of compassion?
After all he has mainly damaged Boeing stockholders
I think that certainty of the sentence enforces the law more than the harshness of the punishment

RE: Wow
By Tryek25 on 7/17/2009 9:48:54 AM , Rating: 4
Aerodynamic technology might be technology from three decades ago but you also have to remember that new alloys and procedures are created for new technologies. If the information on how to make some of these materials leaked out, then other countries would start catching up to our current technology level, eliminating the gap in "power" between countries. This is something the US government is trying very hard to avoid.

RE: Wow
By superPC on 7/17/2009 2:49:57 PM , Rating: 2
but he worked in a public company. any advancement those company made must have been patented or written in a scientific journal somewhere (in both case accessible to the public). unless they're working on some black technology than that's a different matter all together (it doesn't say that in the article).

RE: Wow
By ClownPuncher on 7/17/2009 3:36:40 PM , Rating: 2
The problem is US patents don't mean anything in China.

RE: Wow
By SpaceJumper on 7/17/2009 5:08:57 PM , Rating: 2
I am not sure about patent. The copyright law for music is 16 months in China, I wish we have that here. Copyright should not be forever, even patent expires after 25 years max.

RE: Wow
By invidious on 7/20/2009 10:04:15 AM , Rating: 1
He stole intelectual property and national secrets and gave them to one of our top competators in the world. Obviously the secrets were worthwhile or China wouldn't have wanted to steal them.

He should be thrown in jail for life and fined for the money he made exploiting our country's trust.

RE: Wow
By TSS on 7/17/2009 11:08:00 AM , Rating: 4
do tell, what chinese technological advancement that the US doesn't have yet would you like to steal?

maybe the loongson 3 CPU, the 65nm quadcore running at 1.0-1.2Ghz that'll debute somewhere in 2010?

or the technology they plan on getting to the moon in 2024?

yknow.. the plan will only work when your own nation isn't the technological superior one.

RE: Wow
By pxavierperez on 7/18/2009 1:12:32 AM , Rating: 2

RE: Wow
By sxr7171 on 7/18/2009 9:16:01 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah seriously. The first thing I thought. "What technology?"

RE: Wow
By knutjb on 7/17/2009 1:10:55 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe we should charge the Chinese for it by voiding a trillion dollars or so of the T-Bills they hold.

RE: Wow
By JediJeb on 7/17/2009 1:20:52 PM , Rating: 2
Sounds like a good idea to me.

RE: Wow
By ayat101 on 7/19/2009 12:59:29 PM , Rating: 2
Will not work for the simple reason that the USA needs to borrow MORE money from China, all those economic rescue packagages have to be funded somehow.

The USA can not do anything short-term, and both it and China know this.

RE: Wow
By ayat101 on 7/19/2009 1:06:20 PM , Rating: 2
P.S. If you *REALLY* want to piss off China, invite the Dalai Lama for an official visit to the USA. Give it a high profile in the media. Start talking up on the interntional arena the rights of Tibetans to freedom and self-determination.

Do the same for Uighurs.

Do the same for Mongols in Chinese Inner Mongolia.

The USA can not win with China on the economic front without comitting suicide in the process. However, the above is about the most sensitive part of Chinese political anatomy you can kick in response.

RE: Wow
By TO on 7/17/2009 4:19:02 PM , Rating: 2
I say we just default on our loans and call it even!

By SpaceJumper on 7/17/2009 7:13:48 AM , Rating: 1
Do anybody know how many US economic espionages are currently working in another countries?

RE: Curiousity....
By SeeManRun on 7/17/2009 9:27:41 AM , Rating: 5
Do anybody know how many US economic espionages are currently working in another countries?

48 the last time I checked their espionage web page.

RE: Curiousity....
By Hogger1 on 7/17/2009 12:20:53 PM , Rating: 3
It's 47 now. Bob Johnson just announced his retirement last week. It's in the "What's New" section of the site. You just have to scroll down a bit to see it.

RE: Curiousity....
By amagriva on 7/20/2009 5:21:19 PM , Rating: 2
I remember a 1995 bid for Saudi airlines planes worth six billions won by Boeing with a little help from Echelon
(tapping Airbus executives phone calls)
You don't need espionages...But the home of the braves slam granpa in jail till death

Don't drop the soap
By hydrata on 7/17/2009 3:42:46 PM , Rating: 5
Dongfan is an unfortunate name for a prisoner

RE: Don't drop the soap
By 91TTZ on 7/17/2009 5:18:35 PM , Rating: 2

RE: Don't drop the soap
By ajoyner on 7/17/2009 9:20:06 PM , Rating: 2

Long March 5
By nafhan on 7/17/2009 9:06:38 AM , Rating: 3
Just want to point out that the currently in development Long March 5 rocket is very similar in capability to the Delta IV.
I wonder how much Boeing tech went into it?

By consumerwhore on 7/17/2009 2:07:45 PM , Rating: 2
He had a high-level security clearance from 1973 until 2002, so the federal government will never be sure how much information he had access to.

Really? How about: "information tagged 'high-level security clearance required'"?

Uncle Sam>thx

This is dumb...
By SuckRaven on 7/18/2009 7:09:58 AM , Rating: 2
He had a high-level security clearance from 1973 until 2002, so the federal government will never be sure how much information he had access to.

I thought the whole point of "high-level" security clearance was that the federal government knows exactly what it is that they are protecting with that "high-level" security.

China schmina
By Icehearted on 7/20/2009 11:48:11 AM , Rating: 1
They've done all kinds of crap to us, even militarily, and they've exported poisonous items for child use to America before, and what did America do about it? America complimented China on what an economic giant and important business and trade partner they are!

China abuses us, and we regularly accept it like the broke down bitches we are. Nothing changes.

It wasn't greed....
By SunAngel on 7/17/09, Rating: 0
"We don't know how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk." -- Apple CEO Steve Jobs

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