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Google I/O is also expected to bring a 1080p 5-inch Nexus device from LG

Last year at Google Inc.'s (GOOG) I/O developer conference it unveiled Android 4.1 Jelly Bean which brought Project Butter (smoother animations), improved predictive keyboards, offline voice search/questions, and Google Beam (tap to share).  Many expected that Google I/O 2013 -- which will be held May 15-17 at the Moscone Center in San Francisco, Calif -- would bring another tasty treat in the form of Android 5.0 (which most expect to be named "Key Lime Pie").

But if Google is prepping Android 5.0, it's doing so under an almost Apple, Inc. (AAPL) level of secrecy.  

Leaked server logs supposedly traced to Google employees show updates of a Nexus 4 smartphone and Nexus 7 tablet to Android 4.3, with a build string that starts with 'J', indicating that it's still Jelly Bean.  The official Chromium bug tracker also has recent comments that list JWRxxx or JWQxxx as build numbers, strengthening the possibility that this leak is the real deal.

Android 4.3
[Image Source: Android Police]

First spotted by Redditor DanRant, Qualcomm Inc. (QCOM) WLAN drivers and a post by a Chrome developer reference a mysterious "Jelly Bean MR2" (MR2 possibly meaning milestone release 2).  Again, these clues point to a Jelly Bean released, not a leap to 5.0.

Last, but not least, there was a rumor floating around that Google was pushing back Android 5.0, to give OEMs more time to update to Jelly Bean.  Currently only 25 percent of Android devices (roughly) are running Jelly Bean.  Critics of Android complain that carriers have been overly slow in updating handsets to the latest release of Android.

Rumor has it that Google I/O 2013 will see the launch of the Nexus 5 with a Snapdragon 600 chipset and a 5-inch 1080p display.  The handset is thought to be made by LG Electronics Inc. (KSC:066570), and would basically be a slightly more petite sister phone to the Optimus G Pro.

Optimus G Pro
The Optimus G Pro (pictured) is expected to shrink to 5-inches, but keep its premium spec, forming the Nexus 5. [Image Source: LG]

Google may be pushing its branded handset contracts towards LG, currently the second-place Android phonemaker, to try to break the hegemony of Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KSC:005930) who Google is reportedly worried about becoming too powerful.

The Nexus 4 (also by LG) is also expected to be refreshed with a new body design, 32 GB of NAND flash storage, and LTE.  The Nexus 4 is expected to sell for $349 USD, while the 16 GB old Nexus 4 is expected to drop to $299 USD unlocked.  Pricing on the Nexus 5 has not yet leaked.

Sources: DanRant, Android Police, Gadgetronica



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they just need to take their time
By lsantiago77 on 4/29/13, Rating: 0
RE: they just need to take their time
By jkostans on 4/29/2013 12:18:23 PM , Rating: 5
Nexus 4 running 4.2.2, no stability problems here.


RE: they just need to take their time
By tdktank59 on 4/29/2013 12:39:18 PM , Rating: 1
had the G1 and G2 had no issues what so ever. Now with the Motorola Razr M (was already in production when google bought Motorola, so unfortunately not a google phone) But I have had issues with it, mostly the bloat ware, and how they have to mount the SDcard in a special way...

Im relatively confident that its an issue with carriers and phone makers fucking around with the phones.

Stock on the G1 was amazing, rooted and rom'd with cyanogenmod and got another year out of it since I could overclock it and still get better battery life than brand new lol (after 1.5 years)

The G2 was pretty sweet, not a huge fan of the hinge system quality wise. again was good but rooted and rom'd even better. Was getting almost 2 days of battery life.

Now with the razr m... its slower than the G2 even tho its got dual core and more ram.
I do like the new features of 4.x but im waiting on a rom to fix the performance issues im noticing.


By Belard on 4/29/2013 5:47:27 PM , Rating: 2
The bloat comes from Verizon. I have its sister phone from AT&T (Atrix HD) which is slightly bigger. For the most part, both have the same Motorola apps which are fine.

Go into your settings, and disable and delete anything you don't need or want. The Verizon crap (like at&t) cannot be uninstalled, but can be disabled.


RE: they just need to take their time
By sigmatau on 4/29/2013 10:54:11 PM , Rating: 2
Exact opposite for me. Had a GS2 that must have had all bugs combined of all phones. My GS1 work phone's cell radio bugs out and goes off line for some reason without any warning until I try to make a call.

My GS2 built in email app would crash several times a week and the phone in general would restart at least 1-3 times a day. It was sluggish for UI processes and would erase my SD card every few weeks for no reason. Maybe it was just the American version.

I so don't won't to buy a GS4 but it seems to be the best thing out right now. Maybe I'll just wait.


By euclidean on 5/1/2013 11:13:17 AM , Rating: 2
In the same boat...I may get the refreshed Nexus 4...but I think I'm going to hold out for the Nexus 5 just on matter of principal (I want the latest and greatest OS...not a year old version with crappy carrier mods...).


By cyberguyz on 4/29/2013 2:27:16 PM , Rating: 2
2x SG3s

One on stock 4.1.1 (i747) the other on a Cyanogen 4.2.2-based custom rom (i9300).

No stability grief with either of them. Both are running rock solid no matter what I do with them.


By UpSpin on 4/29/2013 12:39:51 PM , Rating: 2
I think your issue is more because of the changes your hardware manufacturer did (like Touchwiz etc) and less Googles fault.
The same people think because an app crashes it's Androids fault, yet the programmer of the app was lazy and hasn't coded it properly.


RE: they just need to take their time
By elleehswon on 4/29/2013 2:13:43 PM , Rating: 2
your phone is only as stable as the apps you download.


RE: they just need to take their time
By Tony Swash on 4/30/13, Rating: 0
By retrospooty on 4/30/2013 10:02:46 AM , Rating: 2
Right... Because the iPhone never crashes... NEXT!

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-insta...


version 5, why should they?
By UpSpin on 4/29/2013 12:50:37 PM , Rating: 2
Version 2 was a major step from 1. Version 3 was Honeycomb for tablets. Version 4 was merging 3 and 2 and chaning fundamental core parts.
What should version 5 bring which justifies a major version increment? Nothing I could imagine at the moment:
Merging Chrome OS with Android, but I doubt that this happens yet, they probably wait for 64 bit ARM cores first.
Merging it with a Google Glass UI? Not ready yet, so no.
Changing fundamental parts? People are happy with it at the moment, and a lot of people still are on 2.x
Adding desktop functionality? Possible, but they probably wait for 64-bit first.
Adding split desktop mode like Samsung did? Hopefully, but this doesn't require a totally new underlying framework and thus no major version bump.

Apple will have to release a new major version of iOS with fundamental changes to catch up with Android, Google probably waits to see what they add.
Blackberry and Microsoft haven't introduced anything outstanding which Google could adopt, so they probably just keep on optimizing the current version and don't rush out unfinished projects (like Honeycomb) and cause confusion.




RE: version 5, why should they?
By bug77 on 4/29/2013 3:57:44 PM , Rating: 2
I can think of a couple of features:
- audio notifications for missed messages; I had that on my Moto SLVaeR, but now that I have a smartphone, it's gone
- progressive ringtones (as in: start at 0% volume and make your way up to 100% over 5 seconds)


RE: version 5, why should they?
By euclidean on 5/1/2013 11:17:42 AM , Rating: 2
I don't think those two features would require a major version update...a minor version update for sure if it was added into the core feature set of the OS.


Another possibility...
By DanNeely on 4/29/2013 10:19:48 AM , Rating: 2
Related to your comment about the 5.0 process being Applelike, would be that instead of releasing 5.0 to oems at the same time they publicly announce it resulting in many month delays while the OEMs update their drivers/skins/etc to the new version and push it through carrier testing, that they've instead provided at least some OEMs access to the 5.0 codebase now but are delaying the public release until the oems can get it working and approved on their flagship devises. This would mean Key Lime Pie rolling out on a number of devices shortly after the official launch instead of just most recent Nexuses.




RE: Another possibility...
By theapparition on 4/30/2013 10:57:11 AM , Rating: 2
The more people have their hands on it, the more leaks there will be. Very doubtful anyone outside of Google has access to it.


Jelly Bean deployment is not as bad as Honeycomb
By pixelslave on 4/29/2013 1:30:43 PM , Rating: 2
Jelly Bean 4.2 may still not be widely available, but Jelly Bean in general has reached a much wider user base than Honeycomb for its entire lifespan.




By Xplorer4x4 on 4/29/2013 2:20:55 PM , Rating: 2
I would certainly hope so. Honeycomb was a tablet only OS at a time when Android tablets were gaining traction, and you are comparing it to a phone/tablet hybrid os at a time when tablets are pretty common place thanks to $200-$300 Android tablets?


By StormyKnight on 4/29/2013 11:22:13 PM , Rating: 2
This is where Google needs to be more like Apple. Bypass the service providers. Updates should only come from Google and shouldn't have to wait for the likes of Verizon, Sprint or AT&T to get their updates.




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