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The ESA recently met to discuss money and space projects

European nations recently met together to discuss space exploration and the International Space Station (ISS) at a time when the global economy continues to suffer.  Due to the economic crisis, countries are buckling down, which made the recent meeting even more important for future space endeavors.

All eighteen members of the European Space Agency (ESA) met in The Hague to discuss a budget of 10.3 billion euros for future space missions.  Officials agreed upon the 10 billion euro budget, which will cover up to thirty space missions, including climate satellites, missions aboard the ISS, and a Martian rover.

A topic that temporarily became heated was that of ExoMars, a Red Planet rover mission that would have it drill a feet below the surface to take soil samples.  Led by Italy and funded by other ESA nations, the cost of the project has doubled yet again, with the ESA placing a 1 billion euro cap on the project.

ExoMars is scheduled to launch in 2016.

The nations meet together every three years, and this meeting has a stronger focus on funding future space endeavors.  The ESA hopes to be able to better catch up to China, India and Japan, as each nation continues to see new levels of success with their space programs.

Each nation will contribute a different amount towards the overall 10 billion euro budget for missions.  Members from the Canada Space Agency (CSA) announced they will contribute about 10 million euros ($15.8 million USD) towards space missions it can contribute technology towards.

The ESA member meeting coincides with the continued slump of the global economic crisis, with the ESA trying to create additional high-tech jobs while also becoming more accountable with its funding.



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Their solution will be the same as always
By FITCamaro on 12/1/2008 9:01:16 AM , Rating: 1
Make the US do all the work and cover all the costs. Just like with the UN.




By Strunf on 12/1/2008 1:10:12 PM , Rating: 2
Last time I check ESA was able to make and send satellites and what not to space...


RE: Their solution will be the same as always
By ikkeman on 12/1/2008 4:21:10 PM , Rating: 2
short sighted, dimwitted, untrue - spoken like a true american.


RE: Their solution will be the same as always
By Ringold on 12/1/2008 5:18:30 PM , Rating: 2
Not entirely untrue. It was the Space Shuttle that built the ISS, the Space Shuttle alone as far as I know is the best way to bring waste off the ISS short of tossing it out to space. Without Russia or you guys developing a modified craft, only America can currently put new modules up there. And without America, Europe would have to snuggle up to Moscow for a ride up there.

A better way to of said it all would've been to say that the ESA is a second-rate "also ran" and impotent -- just like the UN.

To be fair, since the ESA doesn't have a manned program, I suppose they don't even pretend to be a major player in the traditional sense.


By ikkeman2 on 12/2/2008 2:22:07 AM , Rating: 2
agreed - though it's not like we get to use the shuttle for free. in fact, Eur snuggled up to Rus several times because they're just thet much cheaper - and if your cargo isn't critical or to expensive to insure...

and the ISS was designed based on the capacity of the shuttle - so to say nothing else could've done the job is like saying nobody else but bud can brew a bud beer...
MIR was launched without using a shuttle. Connect a few of those and you've got a iss.
then again, it does have the biggest payload af all launchers. (shuttle that is)


By Strunf on 12/2/2008 7:54:43 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe the guys at the ESA are just smart enough to have noticed that it comes way much cheaper to pay the US when they need the Space Shuttle rather than building one...

And BTW last time I checked the Ariane is doing good, and the market for this kind of vehicle is much greater than the one for the space shuttles. The Russians don't have anything really better than the Ariane.


By RoberTx on 12/6/2008 3:53:31 AM , Rating: 2
Any Europeans walked on the moon yet?


RE: Their solution will be the same as always
By Bubbacub on 12/1/2008 6:34:15 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry to have to correct your rant but the nations that make up the EU contribute more to the UN than the USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_nations#Fundin...


By RoberTx on 12/6/2008 3:57:08 AM , Rating: 2
Your source is Wikipedia? ...that's rich....I bet you are a liberal arts major. Would like fries with that burger sir?


By RoberTx on 12/6/2008 3:59:08 AM , Rating: 2
Excuse my grammar faux. Your source is Wikipedia? ...that's rich....I bet you are a liberal arts major. Would you like fries with that burger sir?


IF ESA gets low on money ..
By Clauzii on 12/1/2008 12:45:59 AM , Rating: 2
.. I'll sugest they screw the Mars missions first. The current very succesfull Endaviour mission (STS-126) shows that ISS can be a cool place to be for all sorts of scientists.

Going to Mars is OK, but looking at how it's done with the ISS I think this could be done better by having ALL spaceagencies collaborate together.

PS: Perfect landing guys.




RE: IF ESA gets low on money ..
By grath on 12/1/2008 1:13:29 AM , Rating: 3
Collaboration is good for the big human spaceflight efforts like the ISS, going back to the Moon, or to Mars, but unmanned probes or landers like the ESA rover are well suited for the relatively small design teams and support operations they require, and given how valuable rovers have proven to be should not be cut to buy more rides to the ISS from Russia.


RE: IF ESA gets low on money ..
By Ringold on 12/1/2008 5:26:38 PM , Rating: 2
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Collaboration is good for the big human spaceflight efforts like the ISS, going back to the Moon, or to Mars,


History seems to suggest not. Nobody cares about collaborative efforts; do two football teams work together to collectively win a game? No, (American) football is trench warfare. We made a far harder push when we wrapped NASA up in nationalism and it was a matter of national pride. Now who's pushing hard and will probably beat all of us nice collaborative hippy folk to the Moon? The Chinese, who also wrap their program in intense nationalism.

It's been said here again and again, competition is a good thing. Just like in capitalism, competition is the greatest motivator known to man.


Exchange rate typo?
By ThisSpaceForRent on 12/1/2008 2:59:23 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Members from the Canada Space Agency (CSA) announced they will contribute about 10 million euros ($15.8 million USD) towards space missions it can contribute technology towards.


The current exchange rate is listed as 1.2881 USD to 1 Euro. So 10 million Euros should only be $12,881,000. Please correct me if I'm wrong here.




ISS and the EU
By FPP on 12/3/2008 5:50:00 PM , Rating: 2
I have to ask what the big deal is, in that all of this will wait. There is NO pressing need to spend the money for any of this, in Dollars OR euros. Honestly, ISS has cost more and produced less than any scientific pursuit. It is only prudent to take care of the citizenry first.




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