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Three-strikes-you’re-off-the-net plans voted down due to concerns over civil liberties

Plans to throw persistent file-sharers off the net were derailed last week, with European politicians choosing to vote against a move that many feared would conflict with civil liberties and human rights.

The so-called “shunning ritual,” an end result of a three-strikes punishment system favored by the content industry, a handful of ISPs, and President Nicolas Sarkozy of France, would see pirates caught three times thrown off the net permanently.

The plan originated in France after a series of discussions between the French government and the country’s music and internet industries. It is believed to have spread beyond France’s borders by evangelists for the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI), which represents the music industry in 73 different countries.

“As people spend more time talking and understanding the problems, I think they have generally decided there is no easy solution and this is one of the most attractive,” said IFPI executive John Kennedy.

ISPs aren’t keen to play cyber-cops, however, and the three strikes plan has met a fair amount of resistance, both from internet providers and consumer groups.

While the a French version of the plan is set to hit the country’s parliament this May, similar support in the UK stalled as internet providers expressed their reluctance.

“The complexity of what’s being discussed is being vastly underestimated by most of the parties,” said Joe McNamee of the European Internet Services Providers Association. “There is a right to a fair trial in the European convention on human rights. So what’s permissible?”

Kennedy claims internet providers are filibustering: “Let's talk,” he says. “Let's seem to be talking. If we can set up a committee, cancel at the last minute. Anything but really engage.”

The European parliament vote isn’t legally binding on its member countries, however, and individual nations are free to implement rules however they see fit. The New York Times called the vote “symbolic,” noting that the opposition more or less reflects the overall sentiment of the EU’s members. This could shift when France assumes the EU presidency later this year, with many expecting Sarkozy to heavily promote the plan.



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impossible to enforce?
By Gul Westfale on 4/15/2008 9:03:20 AM , Rating: 5
i'm glad they decided not to pursue this, but even if they had i wonder how they would have tried to enforce it. a lot of public places (restaurants, cafes, train stations, etc) offer free wireless access, so they would actually be forced to monitor each and every offender 24/7; which is not only a gross violation of privacy and personal freedoms but also a logistical nightmare. imagine what that would cost in tax money... *shudder*




RE: impossible to enforce?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 4/15/2008 9:06:02 AM , Rating: 2
Yea, I'm not sure how they would enforce this either.


RE: impossible to enforce?
By amanojaku on 4/15/2008 9:32:17 AM , Rating: 5
Every French Internet connection will be sold with a protocol analyzer and burly man in a beret. If you violate the terms of service you get beaten with a stale baguette.


RE: impossible to enforce?
By BladeVenom on 4/15/2008 11:38:32 AM , Rating: 4
That won't work; there aren't enough burly men in France.


RE: impossible to enforce?
By geddarkstorm on 4/15/2008 11:58:11 AM , Rating: 4
What about all their burly women?


RE: impossible to enforce?
By afkrotch on 4/15/2008 2:30:51 PM , Rating: 2
LOL


RE: impossible to enforce?
By TITAN1080 on 4/15/2008 3:48:43 PM , Rating: 2
You must be thinking of England, or Arkansas perhaps... I had alot of fun watching French women jogging, most of them are strikingly good-looking, also they don't wear alot of 'underwear' in France ;)


RE: impossible to enforce?
By KCjoker on 4/15/2008 5:50:28 PM , Rating: 2
Yea but they have hairy armpits.lol


RE: impossible to enforce?
By lompocus on 4/15/2008 11:13:04 PM , Rating: 1
let's not forget their feminine mustaches (extra large mustaches)!


RE: impossible to enforce?
By ObiDon on 4/15/2008 4:16:09 PM , Rating: 2
and if they run out of both, they could probably import more from germany!


RE: impossible to enforce?
By nofranchise on 4/16/2008 4:19:23 AM , Rating: 1
Yeah - because Europe is known for it's ugly women, compared with the majority of US girls who are all trim, fit and beautiful! :P

Gotta love those Mega Meals!

Btw. been a couple of years since I last went to the States, so the amount of good looking girls might have gone up (I hope).
But I've been to France/Germany/Sweden etc. recently, and they do not lack great specimens of the female gender.

On a serious note: I need to get laid.
On another serious note: Thank the lord this was voted down.

Oh and burly women should be found in Britain if you are in Europe:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gQ7YJcXVUAc


RE: impossible to enforce?
By majorpain on 4/15/2008 12:21:34 PM , Rating: 2
ahahahahh!
that one was good :D


RE: impossible to enforce?
By malatory on 4/15/2008 4:27:27 PM , Rating: 3
But they would drop the baguette if you scream "Boo" at them.

used one frech rifle, never shot, dropped once.

\o/


RE: impossible to enforce?
By bhieb on 4/15/2008 12:15:38 PM , Rating: 1
Money is no object afterall if they need more I'm sure they can sue MS for their unfair business practices by bundling solitare to corner the market.


RE: impossible to enforce?
By jvillaro on 4/15/2008 2:03:14 PM , Rating: 2
LOL, sad but true


Sensationalism
By pmonti80 on 4/15/2008 9:10:06 AM , Rating: 3
You should seriously reconsider the title of this post. Even though the information is correct and well written, the title is bordering sensationalism. The stile is totally different between the headline and the news.




RE: Sensationalism
By Gul Westfale on 4/15/2008 9:14:35 AM , Rating: 2
do we get some moron screaming "sensationalism" for every damn post now?? how is this sensationalist? he summarizes the content of the article... and it's "style", not "stile".


RE: Sensationalism
By pmonti80 on 4/15/2008 9:19:33 AM , Rating: 3
Sorry about style, English is my 3rd language so I hope you can forgive me.
And if you read my post, you will find that everything but the headline is OK by me. I find it well written and informative, but the headline is misleading.


RE: Sensationalism
By Gul Westfale on 4/15/2008 1:50:46 PM , Rating: 2
sorry for calling you a moron... i was just pissed that people keep posting this exact same "OMG SENSATIONALISM" for every news item... usually it's jason mick's entries, and he has been known to um, exaggerate a bit; but this here isn't like the national enquirer or CNN (who tell you that hillary is OMG a woman and obama is OMG black, but if you want to find out anything about their political views then CNN is not the right site for you).


RE: Sensationalism
By MoonRocket on 4/15/2008 10:49:02 AM , Rating: 2
I agree, its the typical Daily Tech craptastic sensationalism.

"Pirates" would not be thrown off the internet. You are only a Pirate if you are convicted in a court of law not if you are accused by a content provider as we have seen in the US with RIAA bringing frequent false legal actions.


Actually...
By PICBoy on 4/15/2008 12:23:26 PM , Rating: 2
I would like to see how can they make this possible WITHOUT violations of rights.




RE: Actually...
By afkrotch on 4/15/2008 2:33:25 PM , Rating: 2
Take away rights, then you can't violate them.


RE: Actually...
By Strunf on 4/17/2008 5:45:51 PM , Rating: 2
We call that the "Patriotic act"...


um
By legoman666 on 4/15/2008 9:27:58 AM , Rating: 1
Arghhhhhhhhhh




RE: um
By V3ctorPT on 4/15/2008 3:39:11 PM , Rating: 2
Got to love the "Old Continent"... aaarrgghhh indeed...


Idea!
By theeq on 4/15/2008 7:41:34 PM , Rating: 2
I was just at Barnes and Nobel the other day and I found several CDs that were not at all top shelf popularity or by any means new. 20USD.
Maybe instead of targeting piracy, the music industry should focus on rethinking its sales plan. I would buy CDs whenever I could for the sound quality (hours and searching and downloading for 96kbs is bunk) but there's no way I could ever afford to (I work in a theatre: lots of sound practice and a low paycheck).




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