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Honda Aircraft is delaying the first delivery until mid-2013 because of engine damage caused by ice during ground testing

Honda has announced yet another delay in the delivery of its HondaJet aircraft due to engine troubles that will push the release to mid-2013.

Not only is Honda a well-known Japanese automaker, but it has also extended its engineering abilities to jets with a venture called Honda Aircraft. Honda Aircraft launched in 2006 in Greensboro, North Carolina, and was set to make HondaJets that featured twin HF118 jet engines, a maximum speed of 420 knots, an all-glass cockpit, an operational ceiling of 41,000 feet and a range of 1,100 nautical miles. Honda has said that it wants to make HondaJet the "Honda Civic of the sky."


While Honda was able to send a HondaJet on its first flight back in December, and has even managed to sell over 100 HondaJets, delays over the last few years have prevented the company from completing its first delivery.

In 2009, Honda Aircraft announced that it would have to push its first delivery from 2010 to late 2011 due to problems in receiving parts.

Now, Honda Aircraft is delaying the first delivery until mid-2013 because of engine damage caused by ice during ground testing. According to Michimasa Fujino, president of Honda Aircraft, ice was taken into the engine causing minor damage and a loss of thrust, and a redesign is required before the first delivery can take place.

"I regret that we have to convey this message today," said Fujino after announcing the delay at a news conference.


Honda Aircraft and General Electric, who partnered with Honda to create the engine, will now work on redesigning the HF120 engine, which will not be certified until the second half of 2012. Fujino said the delay will not impact sales on a large scale because the business-jet market "is a little slow right now" and isn't expected to recover until 2013.

The HondaJet, which will seat two crew members and six passengers, will sell for $4.5 million a piece. Honda is spending over $120 million on the Greensboro site, which is expected to expand with a $20 million HondaJet maintenance, repair and overhaul facility, and is spending $1 billion on research and development of the HondaJet.

Source: Bloomberg



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By Iketh on 10/12/2011 9:42:40 AM , Rating: 2
I can't imagine how uncomfortable this little thing must be in turbulence @ 420 knots...




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By Dorkyman on 10/12/2011 11:55:25 AM , Rating: 2
The thing probably has a high wing loading, so it would be fine in turbulence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_loading


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By inperfectdarkness on 10/12/2011 12:05:18 PM , Rating: 2
no better or worse than any other small business jet. cessna citation x, for instance.


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By bah12 on 10/12/2011 12:54:26 PM , Rating: 2
Having flown commercial and private many times, most of the private flights are much smoother than commercial. In my experience the turbulence gets worse during approach and departure, and those are much better on private jets since you are flying into smaller airports, so you aren't fighting the tail wash off a 747 that just landed as they herd you in as fast as they can.

That being said, I'd avoid it simply because it is awfully small for 6 people isn't the point of a private jet to not feel cramped.


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By ekv on 10/12/2011 2:16:13 PM , Rating: 2
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to not feel cramped.
Sure, spend a couple extra dollars and get a G5. Haha. Seriously though, most micro-jets aren't that much roomier.

I thought the "point" was to go point-to-point in a little more direct fashion, on your time as well.


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By bah12 on 10/12/2011 3:04:08 PM , Rating: 2
Well there are multiple points of course, I should have said isn't that one of the reasons :)

Time saving being paramount of course. Simply eliminating the airport mess, shaves 4-6 hours off a day trip, as you don't have to be there 2 hours early and mess with all that crap.


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By bah12 on 10/12/2011 3:08:06 PM , Rating: 2
Oh to your G5 comment I was thinking more along the lines of a Lear. Bigger planes and the used market is so low right now you could pick one up for cheaper than the cost of this one new. Not that there is NO value to buying new, but a jet is not like a car they essentially have a full bumper to bumper overhaul every 12 years, required by law. So used is the way to go, and also one reason they hold their value well.


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By ekv on 10/13/2011 4:34:27 AM , Rating: 2
Love the Lear 25 ... but it is LOUD! 8)
'45 is quite nice, but truly a PITA to land.

Micro's are a bit pricey, true, but so was the Model A way back when. The market has huge growth potential, though the regulatory environment being the way it is does not help. Two things: 1) If chartering could get more towards something like taking a taxi; and/or 2) filing flight plans, checking notams, etc. gets rather more simplified. [I loved the Imsai 8080, but toggling in a program just doesn't compare too well to my Win7/2600k].


Sound insulation
By rameshms on 10/12/2011 11:12:00 AM , Rating: 2
I hope Honda uses good sound insulation on their "civic" aircrafts ;-)
If they made the aircraft cabin like their car cabin, no one would want to travel in it..




RE: Sound insulation
By tng on 10/12/2011 1:25:53 PM , Rating: 2
This plane is supposed to be one of the most quiet plane out there. You will notice how the engines are mounted to the wings and not the fuselage, that is part of it.


Shame...
By MrBlastman on 10/12/2011 12:43:03 PM , Rating: 2
This jet looks pretty sexy. I bet it'll be fun to pilot when it eventually comes out.




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