Source: Tesla Motors Club
quote: Once you can lease a Tesla for that price, every single sedan from the Toyota Camry and above is irrelevant.
quote: As you well know, the Model E released in 2017 or 2018 will be about $35,000.
quote: I see it happening. In 4 years they went from a $100,000+ Roadster to a $70,000 Model S. [...] So in 4 years with battery tech improving and less R&D costs due to previous work on their other Tesla cars, making a sub $40,000 electric car with a 200 mile range should be possible.
quote: LMAO that's cute you believe that.
quote: We'll have to see. I'm pretty skeptical he can hit that price point so soon, unless he plans on taking even more losses every sale to get there.
quote: My only point is that when that $500 lease point for the Tesla approaches, the Camry and other sedans are still going to be top sellers. Hardly "irrelevant".
quote: Camry for $350/mo, plus $200/mo in fuel costs, or a third-gen Tesla
quote: Not with the Camry's fuel economy and not with your average commute are you going to be paying $200 a month in fuel.
quote: Jesus Christ.. it depends on how much you drive, and your fuel costs.
quote: If you want to make comparisons you need to be more through and try to make as much an apples to apples comparison to have legitimacy good sir.
quote: What impossible achievements has he done?
quote: Keep in mind Tesla's successive "impossible" achievements, world's first and second worthwhile electric car, supercharger network, Consumer Reports 99%, etc.
quote: Everything he's done is entirely possible with today's battery tech
quote: ($100k price point for the vehicle and not giving zero f%^ks about making money from this)
quote: And wasn't the Model X supposed to be the cheap car?
quote: And now they're building the world's largest battery factory. With scale comes cost reduction. Everything hinges on that factory.
quote: it's likely they are aiming for a 2015 release
quote: Yes, just like the Model S and Roadster were vaporware.
quote: the Model X will be the hottest item on the block.
quote: People like AWD for ice and wet slippery conditions.
quote: 2. Unlike with an ICE car, there is almost no efficiency reduction (JB Straubel has said there is actually none, but we'll see).
quote: 5. The cost increase over a RWD model will be tiny (6-10%?), so definitely worth it.
quote: Current Tesla's do not function properly in extreme cold. So the idea of an AWD electric vehicle on current technology for winter weather is a wash. Tons of Model S's in Norway, what!?
quote: Physics wise, that's not possible. Electric motors are efficient, but not 100% efficient. Powering all the wheels takes more energy than just two, can't get around that.
quote: You've also added, wait for it, more weight to the vehicle. More weight, less efficient.
quote: Explain please? How is using twice the number of motors and associated hardware a "tiny" expense?
quote: Elon has mentioned it will be more expensive in the "low single digits" as in, about $5k more than the Model S.
quote: The cost increase over a RWD model will be tiny (6-10%?)