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"This is something we’ve never done before and we’re excited to share it with you." -- EA

It looks as though Electronic Arts is looking to shake the gaming industry up a bit with the introduction of EA Access. The new service, which will be $4.99/month or $29.99/year, will allow Xbox One gamers unlimited access to some of EA’s top-rated games.
 
Some of the games that will be available to play include FIFA 14, Madden NFL 25, Peggle 2, and Battlefield 4 (with more titles to be announced at a later date). In addition, EA Access will give subscribers early access to upcoming games courtesy of “Play First.” Subscribers will be able to play games like Madden NFL 15 and Dragon Age: Inquisition -- unfortunately, just the trial versions -- up to five days before they’re available to the general public.

 
“This is something we’ve never done before,” said EA in its press release. “We’re excited to share it with you.”
 
EA Access was made possible via a partnership with Microsoft, and it’s unknown if similar functionality will be extended to PlayStation 4 users in the future.
 
Microsoft’s Xbox One has gained significant traction following its effective price cut to $399 (due to making a SKU available sans Kinect camera) and EA Access could persuade even more gamers to join “Team Microsoft.”

Source: Electronic Arts





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Netflix...?
By wordsworm on 7/29/2014 2:05:39 PM , Rating: 2
This is kind of like Netflix for games. It almost makes me want an Xbox.




RE: Netflix...?
By stm1185 on 7/29/2014 2:07:53 PM , Rating: 3
So you are telling me that I can pay $30 to play DA:I + Every other EA game coming out in the next year if I own an Xbox One?

That definitely makes getting an Xbox One tempting.


RE: Netflix...?
By Reclaimer77 on 7/29/2014 2:09:47 PM , Rating: 2
Is this on top of the Xbox Live fee though?


RE: Netflix...?
By inighthawki on 7/29/2014 2:28:18 PM , Rating: 2
This quote from EA's source makes me believe so:
"You can join EA Access for just $4.99 per month, or you can purchase an annual membership for $29.99 per year on Xbox LIVE®. "

So basically, you're saving money if either:
1) You already have xbox live and you buy 1 EA title per year
2) You don't own live, but you buy 2+ EA titles per year

Otherwise the cost of live ($50 a year) + this service will cost you $20 more than a single title. But hey, still a pretty good deal all things considered. Especially since a live subscription now gets you some pretty good games for free every month. The last batch had Dishonored in it, I think.


RE: Netflix...?
By invidious on 7/29/2014 2:52:39 PM , Rating: 3
When you buy a game you can continue to play it for years and years. And you can resell it. In this system you will need to maintain your XBL and EA Access subscriptions for all of those years and years. And as soon as you cancel your subscription your xbox is essentially a paperweight.

This is not going to give you access to every xbox game, at best it will be every EA game, which is very optomistic.

Not sure how you can look at this and think it was designed to save you money.


RE: Netflix...?
By cruisin3style on 7/29/2014 3:21:26 PM , Rating: 2
it all depends

if you don't buy your games for $60 but wait for a good deal (sometimes right near release date you can get just released titles for ~$40-$45 or for $60 with $10-$20 store credit or similar deal), then play through the game, then sell it on craigs list or ebay within 15-30 days of release date, then it is possible to play through a brand new game and have an overall cost to you of between $20 and -$20 (you make money) depending on how that game holds its value. I have successfully done this and came out even or made money several times with brand new games.

However on the other side of the spectrum, someone that buys games for $60.00 at or near release date and then keeps them a long time and plays them over and over, those games will have little to no value by the time you trade them in. For instance buying the new Call of Duty every year, and keeping it until the next one comes out 1 year later, that previous COD might only be worth $20-$30. I have several older games that are only worth $1 or less if I traded to gamestop.

So I don't know about saving money, but this doesn't sound like a bad idea if there are multiple titles that you would play. In your "buy a game and continue to play it for years and years" scenario, that game will be worth next to nothing after all that time.


RE: Netflix...?
By Reclaimer77 on 7/29/2014 3:32:12 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Not sure how you can look at this and think it was designed to save you money.


While this isn't quite the console equivalent of Steam for PC, it's at least a step in the right direction I guess. There's a lot of details we don't yet know though. Like just how far down the DRM hole this goes....

So like, is EA still the spawn of Satan and worst company in the universe? Or was that just a fad a few years ago? I haven't been keeping up, still addicted to Planetside 2 and a few other titles.


RE: Netflix...?
By stm1185 on 7/29/2014 7:03:09 PM , Rating: 2
Down the DRM hole lol. Of course it will have heavy DRM, its a subscription service. You won't own the games.

Realistically I am probably going to keep being a sucker and buy every BF title coming out, which is looking like 1 year, if not close to that. + Every Bioware title. Then on top that maybe something different, like Mirror's Edge. And I wouldn't mind having Madden. 2 Titles a year minimum. Which makes $30 year, even with Xbox Live cost, a deal.

The bigger thing though is does make buying an Xbox One a lot more palatable. It now has a true advantage in 3rd party gaming over my PC, where before it only disadvantages. So if MS can create compelling enough exclusive titles, then buying an Xbox One will end up on my to do list.


RE: Netflix...?
By stm1185 on 7/29/2014 7:04:47 PM , Rating: 2
Oh and for the whole EA spawn of Satan thing. With PC gaming I am seeing Steam roaring ahead into that role and EA actually starting to look good.

Origin now gives refunds, after letting you play a game for up to a day. Steam now refuses to refund for Early Access games that don't even see release.

EA appears to be moving toward a more customer friendly business model, while Steam is moving away.


RE: Netflix...?
By ProfFarnsworth on 7/29/2014 8:23:20 PM , Rating: 1
You either are a marketer or a shill for EA, stm1185.

Origin has been proven that it uses your computer in malicious ways.

Like: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/eas-origin-servi...

It's people like you who allow for EA to get away with things like this. It's also people like you who allow EA to knickel and dime every last dollar, destroy developers and force shitty mechanics to games. Look at Bioware and Dice.


RE: Netflix...?
By stm1185 on 7/30/2014 1:12:44 AM , Rating: 1
And you are just another paranoid nutjob Farnsworth.

Origin gives consumers refunds, Steam says FUCK YOU, even when the game doesn't even get a release.

That's fact.


RE: Netflix...?
By ProfFarnsworth on 7/30/2014 1:54:52 AM , Rating: 3
You're trolling right or are you that naive?

Refunds are the only reason to use origin? They will do any desperate thing they can to just bring in customers. Oh you wanna know why origin was even created in the first place? It was because the suits at EA wanted more profits from Valve. Valve had already set a percentage across the board for every publisher. EA didn't think it was enough and left steam. Now they make origin, which has been full of bugs and malicious malware. Not to mention the horrible service and butchering of every major franchise they touch.

You do realize that the name came from a company they shut down right? Or how about all the companies listed below that they had shut down? Not to mention it was repeated said by reps at EA that all future games will have microtransactions for all future games?

Before you choose to shill harder or market harder for a terrible company, remember this: EA won worst company in America 2 times in a row and cried about it. Check all my info I posted and you'd be surprised at how bad this company is.

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1399/84/13...


RE: Netflix...?
By Reclaimer77 on 7/30/2014 12:01:17 PM , Rating: 2
I've never bought a Steam game and wanted a refund though, so meh, whatever.

They sell games for like 80% off! What more could you want?

I'm not saying Origin is crap or you shouldn't use it. But making the argument that it's "better" than Steam simply because of refunds is kinda trollish and fanboi sounding. No offense.

By that argument I could pick any number of features Steam has that Origin doesn't, and make the case that Origin sucks and shouldn't be used.


RE: Netflix...?
By stm1185 on 7/30/2014 3:12:14 PM , Rating: 1
Oh please Farnsworth is a total wackjob troll spouting the same conspiracy shit. OMG THEY ARE SCANNING OUR PCS! WAAAHHHHH OMG EA didnt want to pay Valve to sell their games to customers when they could sell them directly! WAHHHHHHH

And Reclaimer,

That Origin will actually give you your money back if you dont like what you bought, makes it a lot more consumer friendly then services like Steam which won't even refund for an early access game that doesnt get released.

Also, Origin has sales too! So does GMG, and GOG, and Amazon. Steam is not the only place doing sales. Steam is just the place where the consumer has no rights.

Which apparently doesnt matter because its Vavle. Yet if MS or Sony or EA do the exact same things, DRM! Connection Required! Everyone makes a stink.


RE: Netflix...?
By Reclaimer77 on 7/30/2014 3:35:58 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Also, Origin has sales too!


Yeah as long as you want to buy EA games and ONLY EA games...I mean hello??

quote:
Steam is just the place where the consumer has no rights.


Look again, I'm not engaging in this whole EA vs. Steam thing. But statements like this make you seem really trollish and childish.


RE: Netflix...?
By ProfFarnsworth on 7/30/2014 3:45:51 PM , Rating: 2
Actually no. Origin doesn't do sales like steam or GoG. Refunds is your only argument.... That's a pretty weak point.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/head_ea_orig...

Before you make more strawman arguments on the internet, back up what you claim. Steam has offline mode and also doesnt require an internet connection unlike... Origin.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/119213-13-origin...

And since they added it, you actually have to make an exception to your antivirus network sniffer to allow origin to run.

http://heine.familiedeelstra.com/always-offline-or...

Tell me again how this isn't shady.

Also by the way.... (Even though I hate Kotaku)
http://kotaku.com/sources-crytek-usas-leadership-q...

Looks like another developer under EA is biting the dust. Especially one that was so prominent.


RE: Netflix...?
By Wolfpup on 7/30/2014 9:50:05 AM , Rating: 2
Huh, I'd never read that...that's disturbing. Wish they'd just ban stuff like that...


RE: Netflix...?
By ianweck on 7/29/2014 4:59:45 PM , Rating: 2
You could make the same argument about Netflix and buying movies. cancel Netflix and you lose your access to the content. What's the difference?


RE: Netflix...?
By Nekrik on 7/29/2014 2:32:19 PM , Rating: 2
I sure hope it is. One thing I noticed between the Xbox Live and the PSN is that there's far less whiney little sh1ts on Xbox Live, I think the paywall helps filter some of the 5 year olds and idiots who like to make noise for their own amusement.


RE: Netflix...?
By sigmatau on 7/29/2014 4:40:00 PM , Rating: 2
Xbox live is well worth the money. One thing that cannot be said about MS is that their gaming networking is not best in quality.


RE: Netflix...?
By ProfFarnsworth on 7/29/2014 8:33:33 PM , Rating: 1
Paying to play online. That is such a typical console attitude.

I'll be enjoying no subscription to play games online on the PC.


RE: Netflix...?
By Makaveli on 7/29/2014 2:47:36 PM , Rating: 2
of course it is.


RE: Netflix...?
By Alexvrb on 7/29/2014 10:20:36 PM , Rating: 2
If you play games online then yes, you need an XBL Gold account. If you're only playing their offline-capable games, I'd be willing to bet you can use the free XBL Silver account and only pay the EA fee. You could do that in the past with other subscription services. They also removed the XBL Gold requirement for streaming services such as Netflix.

Personally I think Gold is worth it just for Games with Gold, at least on the 360. Eventually the XB1 offerings will catch up.


RE: Netflix...?
By Kefner on 7/29/2014 5:23:17 PM , Rating: 2
Article I read (not on here) stated with this service, you would get 10% off all new EA games purchased though the Xbox One Store, so sounds like the service is for past titles, and "newer" titles would be added to this service as they age, but you could buy them new, and get 10% off. So I wouldn't bet on getting new titles through this service (just the discount).


RE: Netflix...?
By hpglow on 7/30/2014 12:45:28 AM , Rating: 2
Time to read the whole thing. You get to play trial versions of current games and full versions of older titles.


RE: Netflix...?
By Arsynic on 7/29/2014 2:27:19 PM , Rating: 2
No. It's nothing like that. You get early access to the games and that's it. It's the full game, but you need to pay for the full version once it comes out. It's basically like an unlimited demo that you get to play until the game comes out.

This will only be for select titles and not for games that you can beat in a single sitting.


RE: Netflix...?
By inighthawki on 7/29/2014 2:30:08 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
EA Access membership unlocks The Vault, a collection of EA’s biggest games on Xbox One ready for you to download and play. During the beta, gamers will have unlimited access to four great EA games: FIFA 14, Madden NFL 25, Peggle 2 and Battlefield 4™, with more titles being added soon. That’s over $100 worth of games for $4.99 a month. You can play these EA favorites as much as you want with the click of a button.

They are referring to the beta of the program, not the games. Otherwise how would those games be listed on the list of available games? BF4 has been out for months...


RE: Netflix...?
By kattanna on 7/30/2014 12:33:11 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
This is kind of like Netflix for games. It almost makes me want an Xbox


there already is a "netflix" for games

http://www.gamefly.com

been around for years


Now that
By FITCamaro on 7/29/2014 2:32:59 PM , Rating: 3
Is funny.

You mean I'll pay $30/year to play all of last years games and demos of upcoming games?!?! Where do I sign up!?!




RE: Now that
By inighthawki on 7/29/2014 2:37:41 PM , Rating: 2
Those are the most recent versions of each product. This year's Madden game is not out until August, so how could they possibly provide it in the bundle?

This is a great value for the people who buy games like Madden or FIFA year after year. Instead of laying down $60 per title, they pay $30 a year and get all the latest versions as they come out.


RE: Now that
By FITCamaro on 7/30/2014 7:36:29 AM , Rating: 2
Madden 25 though is last years game.


RE: Now that
By GulWestfale on 7/29/2014 2:38:30 PM , Rating: 2
this is EA. if you weren't getting raped, it just wouldn't be the same.


RE: Now that
By sigmatau on 7/29/2014 8:32:47 PM , Rating: 2
Oh no!!! $30/year is so terrible. Must go pick fruit for like a whole day to make this kind of money.


Origin?
By herrdoktor330 on 7/29/2014 3:29:59 PM , Rating: 2
Wow. And they're not talking about offering this service for Origin on PC?

That's sad. It would actually add some value to their PC side of things. I wouldn't be surprised if Valve picked up this idea for Steam on participating titles.




RE: Origin?
By inighthawki on 7/29/2014 3:48:23 PM , Rating: 2
Perhaps. But it might also cut into revenue sources from their summer/seasonal sales if people have subscriptions for access to a bunch of games. Time will tell :)


RE: Origin?
By Nexos on 7/30/2014 10:40:10 AM , Rating: 2
EA? On PC? The same EA that shut down all these services just in the past year or so:

http://www.ea.com/1/service-updates

Yeah, I seriously doubt they care about the PC side of things.


I wonder...
By EasyC on 7/29/2014 4:04:45 PM , Rating: 1
I wonder if this is a subsidized backdoor deal by MS to help save its failing system? EA isn't the type to offer this kind of service out of the goodness of their hearts.

Or it could just be a way to slowly kill the used game market while controlling the DRM of their software...

Either way, I'm convinced this isn't as consumer friendly as it seems....




RE: I wonder...
By drlumen on 7/29/2014 4:14:04 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly. Like a crack dealer, EA has a hook hidden somewhere - and it won't be cheap.


RE: I wonder...
By inighthawki on 7/29/2014 4:39:35 PM , Rating: 2
I assume the hook is like every subscription service - if you stop at any point, you lose everything.


What about the Playstation 4?
By ShaolinSoccer on 7/29/2014 6:12:35 PM , Rating: 2
M$ must be paying EA a good bit to keep this XBONE exclusive.




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