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Motorola Droid X  (Source: Motorola)
The Droid X may be hard to find in some areas

The smartphone wars are hot right now with Android devices starting to take over the market and the Apple iPhone continuing to burn up the sales charts. While the iPhone remains shackled to AT&T for now, Android devices are available on all major carriers and many of the smaller regional carriers as well.

One of the latest Android devices to land on the market is the Motorola Droid X that launched officially today. The Droid X has been previewed and had its share of hands on treatments already so most buyers know exactly what the phone can do.

The Droid X is selling for $199.99 after a $100 mail-in rebate and a new two-year customer agreement. The Android device operates on the 3G network Verizon owns and has a gigantic screen that will make some iPhone users jealous. The big display measures a generous 4.3-inches. Other features of the handset include an 8-megapixel camera and the ability to record HD video.

On-board memory for the Droid X is 8GB with a 16GB microSDHC card shipping with the handset. Along with the launch of the Droid X is a new 32GB microSDHC card that is a Verizon Wireless exclusive from SanDisk. Buyers of the Droid X who also get the 32GB microSDHC card at the same time will get $50 off the price of the memory card and bring the total storage capacity of the Droid X to 40GB. With the discount, the 32GB memory card will cost $99.

Verizon is also allowing all current customers who have contracts ending by December 31, 2010 to upgrade to the Droid X with no penalties.



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I was about to buy this
By macemoneta on 7/15/2010 9:47:01 AM , Rating: 3
I was about to buy this when I saw an article this morning on the self-destruct if you try to use a different ROM image:

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/14/droid-x-act...

The ability to modify the functionality is one of the primary attractions of smartphones (for me). Intentionally bricking my property after I purchase it seems criminal to me. In any case, I'll be avoiding this particular device.




RE: I was about to buy this
By Chadder007 on 7/15/2010 9:48:55 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, for such an open platform that this was supposed to be....to lock it down like that.


RE: I was about to buy this
By SkullOne on 7/15/2010 9:57:53 AM , Rating: 5
This isn't new news but it still sucks. Milestone and Droid X both use the same bootloader. Motorola released a statement yesterday that said if you want to mod your phones then go elsewhere.

I'll stick with HTC once it's time for me to upgrade my Droid. Motorola can suck it. My hardware. I'll do whatever the hell I want with it.


RE: I was about to buy this
By acase on 7/15/2010 10:08:45 AM , Rating: 5
You just made millions of iPhone owners scratch their head in confusion.


RE: I was about to buy this
By sprockkets on 7/15/2010 10:25:46 PM , Rating: 2
While it perhaps can be overcome (i guess not if the droid hasn't by now), apple users can at least jail break.

And no, that whole bricking article by jason mick was false.


RE: I was about to buy this
By icanhascpu on 7/18/2010 4:37:13 PM , Rating: 1
What exactly do you want to do with it? Overclock it?


RE: I was about to buy this
By Quadrillity on 7/15/2010 10:20:24 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
Motorola released a statement yesterday that said if you want to mod your phones then go elsewhere.

After more than 10 years of releasing absolute crap phones, I knew we couldn't trust them to change their ways.

Who in the f*** thought it was a great idea to purposefully cripple a phone in a market that is KNOWN for the ability of free and open development?!

I truly am sorry for Motorola stock holders...


RE: I was about to buy this
By jojo29 on 7/15/2010 12:40:32 PM , Rating: 2
Research folks, please do research

Alldroid.org
Androidforums.com

These are your best bets for rooting your phone, give them less than a month to have it cracked...

http://alldroid.org/default.aspx?g=posts&t=453

Heres my recommended and currently in use ROMS for my Original Droid:

Pete's BuglessBeast V0.4
P3Droid 1200ghz Kernel
Fabolous's DroidXTheme w/Launcher Pro

These are the people's ROMs i will be waiting for before jumping on the Droid2 or X ( I want the Droid2, love me the physical keyboard )


RE: I was about to buy this
By ihateu3 on 7/15/2010 12:49:46 PM , Rating: 2
Thats pretty high hopes, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it can't be done, but e-fuses are very difficult to get around. Thats the same exact thing Microsoft did to the 360 to stop homebrew, and so far its been successful enough to where the hackers even state not to expect an exploit. Thats why to this day, you cannot homebrew a 360 that has the update that blew the e-fuses.


RE: I was about to buy this
By Drag0nFire on 7/15/2010 4:23:46 PM , Rating: 2
I think the e-fuse self-destruct rumor has been mostly debunked at this point... Other Android devices contain the same e-fuse and haven't blown up yet.

http://stevenbird.info/2010/07/15/droidx-today-is-...

That said, Motorola has taken a very negative step in locking the bootloader, and I will not be purchasing a Droid X for this reason. I really can't understand why the manufacturers seem to be working against consumers these days. Why should the manufacturer stop me from using my device the way I want?


RE: I was about to buy this
By wiz220 on 7/15/2010 5:21:01 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not defending the practice, BUT, I imagine their argument would be along the lines of not wanting to deal with people trying to claim warranty service on a phone that has been hacked. Now, if there was some way for a user to acknowledge that they were voiding their warranty and then allow them to continue, that might be a better option for everyone.


RE: I was about to buy this
By Aloonatic on 7/16/2010 6:09:41 AM , Rating: 2
Re: Hacking/modding in general.

There probably a lot of people who would try, if it was not discouraged, and then they might well break their phone or mess it up some-how, who don;t want to pay to get it fixed either.

Also, I might have hacked my Wii, but got bored of it after a while and can't be bothered to research fixing it/getting it hacked properly or reverting it back to whatever. So now I might have a Wii sat in my living room that I can't really do much with, and is not earning Nintendo any money. That would be all my fault of course, but I'm sure that I would not be the only person who might have a go at these things and then looses interest, with the lost revenue that that might bring. In saying that, there's not much point in getting my Wii working again, had it had the problems described above :) i might want to play Mario Galaxy 2 I suppose.

People are funny creatures, and they do not all act as you might expect, or be willing to do what you might be willing to. Companies need to take that into account when deciding on policies and it's just easier to say no modding allowed frankly.

Now if they made hacking/modding easier then I might not have the trouble as described above, if I had hacked my Wii that is (not that I have, I'm a good boy)but I think we all know why people want to hack and mod deceives. It's to by-pass income streams and get things for free, or to do things that devices shouldn't or are not licensed too. Losing the manufacturer or their affiliates money, and possibly opening them up to legal issues further down the line if their devices are used to do things which they shouldn't be.


I want a full keyboard, dammit
By dgingeri on 7/15/2010 11:04:23 AM , Rating: 2
Is there an Android phone out there that will be able to run Android 2.2, is fairly fast, and has the sliding keyboard? I thought this would be it, but looking at it today it seems I was wrong. I guess it is the Droid 2 that will have the keyboard, but then it won't have Android 2.2.

I'm getting very frustrated.




RE: I want a full keyboard, dammit
By Omega215D on 7/15/2010 11:18:42 AM , Rating: 2
You could try the LG Ally but I'm not sure about Android 2.2. Maybe it'll be available in a future update.


RE: I want a full keyboard, dammit
By dgingeri on 7/15/2010 11:35:16 AM , Rating: 2
it's a little slow on the processor, but it runs Android 2.1, which means it will be able to run 2.2 with relative ease. 2.2 is faster, so the processor speed won't be too much of a hit when that comes out. It's also a relatively unmodified version of 2.1 on the phone, so it should be a quick and easy upgrade to 2.2. It also happens to be cheap enough I can get it right now.

Thanks for the tip.


By SpinCircle on 7/15/2010 11:29:58 AM , Rating: 2
Seriously, if you don't mind running a custom ROM, you can have 2.2 on the Droid. My droid has been running 2.2 since it leaked, and now has a 2.2 ROM that was built from the Google released source code. It is also quite fast. I'm running a low voltage kernel with the max cpu clock speed set at 1ghz... and some kernels go up to 1.2.


RE: I want a full keyboard, dammit
By jojo29 on 7/15/2010 12:43:10 PM , Rating: 2
My Droid is running Android 2.2 VERY nicely and VERY spiffy and is VERY responsive :)Root rules!


RE: I want a full keyboard, dammit
By theapparition on 7/16/2010 10:35:59 AM , Rating: 3
Stop your whining.

Not a single phone released is running an official pushed copy of Android 2.2 yet.

Droid X will get 2.2 in a few months, Droid 2 (sliding keyboard) will get it as well. There's a Galaxy S class of phone that has a sliding keyboard and is getting 2.2. Just wait a few months, and most phones will be released running 2.2.


RE: I want a full keyboard, dammit
By 53mi on 7/16/2010 4:23:06 PM , Rating: 2
That is incorrect.

My Nexus One received the official android 2.2 OTA update exactly 2 weeks ago.

As far as I know, all Nexus One users should have 2.2 by now.


By theapparition on 7/19/2010 1:54:29 PM , Rating: 2
OK, so I'm off on my info by a few weeks, but for the most part am correct.


RE: I want a full keyboard, dammit
By InvertMe on 7/21/2010 3:52:25 PM , Rating: 2
Have you tried SWIPE? After using that I NEVER want to use a regular keyboard again. To me it's far superior and faster than whacking keys.


I'm surprised...
By chagrinnin on 7/15/2010 12:19:21 PM , Rating: 4
...nobody is pushing the latest feature.

"Droid,...hold it any way you like."




Well.
By Pitbull0669 on 7/15/2010 9:37:48 AM , Rating: 3
If This is a hard launch for verizon,Apple might even have a harder time than it is now.I might piss some people off me saying this.But then again.... I dont realy care.I HOPE APPLE FALLS ON ITS SMUG FACE!




Do they still sell the Droid?
By Ted Landry on 7/18/10, Rating: 0
RE: Do they still sell the Droid?
By InvertMe on 7/19/2010 3:38:31 PM , Rating: 2
Is this a joke?


Yeah But...
By batman4u on 7/15/10, Rating: -1
RE: Yeah But...
By Red Storm on 7/15/2010 12:54:51 PM , Rating: 2
If/when OnLive adds support for Android, then yes, it will play Crysis. ;)


RE: Yeah But...
By Acanthus on 7/15/2010 1:54:53 PM , Rating: 2
At low settings with mushy controls.

Read the reviews by users on this site :(


RE: Yeah But...
By bill4 on 7/15/2010 9:57:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
At low settings with mushy controls.


So, Onlive plays Crysis the same as a $5000 PC then ;)


RE: Yeah But...
By RealTheXev on 7/15/2010 9:58:53 PM , Rating: 2
I doubt OnLive will ever come out on Android. It won't even let you play over wireless (must be wired) on a PC (and prob Mac too).


RE: Yeah But...
By adiposity on 7/15/2010 2:24:43 PM , Rating: 2
go back to Toms


Geeks R-Us
By greg30127 on 7/15/10, Rating: -1
RE: Geeks R-Us
By Shig on 7/15/2010 10:48:48 AM , Rating: 4
Prepare to get flamed into infinity sir.


RE: Geeks R-Us
By Quadrillity on 7/15/2010 10:57:14 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Prepare to get flamed into infinity sir.


quote:
Prepare to get flamed into infinity, and beyond sir


In lieu of the new Toy Story movie: There, fixed that for you.


RE: Geeks R-Us
By ihateu3 on 7/15/2010 12:10:26 PM , Rating: 2
If you think that way, than why are you even on dailytechs website? This site catered towards people that care about all the little details of new tech gadgets. People who love and crave technology, not people who are still troubled with text messaging on their pre-paid cell phones.

And the people that live in their mom's basement are WOW addicts, the people that are dismantling and hacking the hardware are usually intelligent enough to sustain a job that pays very well, and do their hacking on the side for hobby.

And yes, it does matter when you cannot do as you please with your own personal property, especially when it runs on an open source OS!


RE: Geeks R-Us
By cmdrdredd on 7/17/2010 12:46:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If you think that way, than why are you even on dailytechs website? This site catered towards people that care about all the little details of new tech gadgets.


Oh really? Is that why we have oil updates? Political updates? even a mention of wackadoo environmentalists wanting to build a floating city out of garbage? That's real technology is it?


RE: Geeks R-Us
By icanhascpu on 7/18/2010 4:40:16 PM , Rating: 1
Uhh, youre on the wrong site if you care about " little details of new tech gadgets". If you want that I recommend anandtech.com. This site is just a general heads up of whats happening, and with a huge bias at that.


RE: Geeks R-Us
By IcePickFreak on 7/15/2010 12:17:46 PM , Rating: 2
Right, because unless you live in Mom's basement you can't have hobbies.

I'm by no means an electronics guy so I wouldn't do something like that. Instead I spend my days dismantling cars, basically the same thing in your "argument". Some of us don't mind spending money to have an interest/hobby where we try different things and learn different things simply for our own curiosity and interests.

It's OK though Greg, even shallow people can have hobbies. Have you thought about buying a Prius and hyper-miling so you can troll forums about your awesome mileage? It's a first step.


RE: Geeks R-Us
By ihateu3 on 7/15/2010 12:42:19 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe Greg would be ok with a car that bricked its ECU when he uses fluids in his car that are not from the manufacturer of the vehicle.

I do electronics and I have a hobby in cars. If cars where built like that Motorola phone, theres no way we could piggy back to the ECU, chip them, or even use an aftermarket stand alone ECU, which pretty much means no tuning of any kind on your new parts you just installed. Greg's ok with that, but not me!


RE: Geeks R-Us
By Mojo the Monkey on 7/15/2010 12:51:24 PM , Rating: 2
I spend $70 at lunch on a Tuesday. Get your ass off of the daily tech commenting page and go build your resume.


RE: Geeks R-Us
By cmdrdredd on 7/17/2010 12:47:47 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I spend $70 at lunch on a Tuesday.


Oh you're so much better than everyone. Fuck you!


RE: Geeks R-Us
By tng on 7/16/2010 9:44:21 AM , Rating: 1
I agree here. If I had my choice I would like to get a phone that had no camera even. Many of the places I go will not let you in the front door if you have a camera, any camera, so the phone stays in the car.

While I would like to get this phone, the contract and the monthly charges suck. I haven't checked, but is there any carrier out there that will let you buy the phone without charging a minimum $40+ monthly data fee, even if you don't use it?


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