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Dolphins produce sound using tissue vibrations comparable to how human vocal folds work

A team of researchers from the Department of Biological Sciences at Aarhus University has discovered that dolphins "talk" very similarly to the way humans do instead of whistling, like many previously thought.

For years, it was assumed that dolphins communicate through whistles because that's what it sounded like. While dolphins do have the ability to whistle for fun, like humans do, they do not primarily communicate that way.

"When we or animals are whistling, the tune is defined by the resonance frequency of some air cavity," said Peter Madsen, study leader from the Department of Biological Sciences at Aarhus University. "The problem is that when dolphins dive, their air cavities are compressed due to the increasing ambient pressure, which means they would produce a higher and higher pitch the deeper they dive if they actually whistle."

Madsen and his team have found that dolphins produce sound using tissue vibrations comparable to how human vocal folds work.

The team was able to come to these conclusions by digitizing and analyzing recordings of a 12-year-old male bottlenose dolphin from 1977. By doing this, they found that a dolphin breathes in a "heliox" mixture that consists of 80 percent helium and 20 percent oxygen. This combination would make humans sound like Donald Duck, according to the researchers, because it has a sound speed that is 1.74 times higher than normal air.

So if a person whistles after sucking in helium, the pitch will be 1.74 times higher than if that person had breathed in regular air.

"We found that the dolphin does not change pitch when it is producing sound in heliox, which means that its pitch is not defined by the size of its nasal air cavities, and hence that it is not whistling," said Madsen. "Rather, it makes sound by making connective tissue in the nose vibrate at the frequency it wishes to produce by adjusting the muscular tension and air flow over the tissue. That is the same way that we humans make sound with our vocal cords to speak."

The team believes that this finding applies to all toothed whales because they have the same nasal anatomy.

As far as what the dolphins are actually "saying" to one another, it's known that they share identity-related information in order to stay together when traveling. But according to acoustics engineer John Stuart and Speak Dolphin organization member Jack Kassewitz, dolphins have a complex system of social interactions that include sounds like chirps and clicks.

Stuart and Kassewitz developed an instrument called the CymaScope, which pictorially reveals structures within sounds. The CymaScope can be used to understand the dolphin language better in the future.

"There is strong evidence that dolphins are able to 'see' with sound, much like humans use ultrasound to see an unborn child in the mother's womb," said Kassewitz. "The CymaScope provides our first glimpse into what the dolphins might be 'seeing' with their sounds. I believe that people around the world would love the opportunity to speak with a dolphin. And I feel certain that dolphins would love the chance to speak with us -- if for no other reason than self-preservation."


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Where does the helium come from?
By 3DoubleD on 9/7/2011 2:45:06 PM , Rating: 2
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By doing this, they found that a dolphin breathes in a "heliox" mixture that consists of 80 percent helium and 20 percent oxygen.


Where do dolphins naturally collect helium? Helium may be the second most abundant element in the universe... but the ocean (according to wikipedia) only contains:

quote:
In seawater, the concentration is only 4 parts per trillion.


So dolphins must have insane helium filters somewhere in their bodies... or they are running a secret balloon animal racket... only time will tell




RE: Where does the helium come from?
By virtualdll on 9/7/2011 2:53:36 PM , Rating: 5
hmmm.. If only dolphins were mammals that breathe the natural atmosphere surrounding our planet. but alas.. it will have to get it's helium by filling it's lungs with water.


By 3DoubleD on 9/7/2011 3:43:34 PM , Rating: 2
... ya, all that helium in the air at sea-level, what was I thinking! Duh!

As other posters have pointed out, it is likely that the helium mixture was used in the experiment. Makes more sense!


RE: Where does the helium come from?
By jdietz on 9/7/2011 3:13:43 PM , Rating: 5
This summary information is written poorly. Scientists used a heliox mixture as an experiment to determine whether the dolphin sound changes under such conditions. The fact that the sound does not change (their experimental result) means something about the sound-producing organs of dolphins, but I'm not enough of an expert to say exactly what.


RE: Where does the helium come from?
By lyeoh on 9/7/2011 3:27:33 PM , Rating: 2
The thing is, breathing in a helium mix DOES change the pitch of human speech.

So I don't see how one could use this to conclude that dolphins talk like humans.

If one is trying to say that dolphins do communicate with each other, we don't need this helium mix experiment for that either.


By geddarkstorm on 9/7/2011 5:33:20 PM , Rating: 5
I -think- what they showed, and I'm not sure at all on this, is that the frequency of the tissue vibrations were not changed, not the air vibrations (which will be 1.7x faster no matter what, as you pointed out). If the dolphins were only whistling, that is using the air cavity rather than a tissue vibration to make noise, then the vibration in the tissues from the whistle would match the pitch of the whistle. E.g. the tissue's vibration would have increased along with the increased air vibrations.

But, if the tissue vibration stayed unchanged, that means the tissue is not vibrating in response to the air, but its the cause of the vibration of the air. That would be similar to humans. Of course, many other animals do the same thing as us, just look at cats.

So, no matter what, this isn't world changing, it would just explain some of the mechanisms by which dolphins communicate. Again, this is only a guess on what they were measuring and did.


RE: Where does the helium come from?
By seagull7 on 9/7/2011 3:15:16 PM , Rating: 2
I read that several times. The only thing that makes sense is that the researchers were making the dolphins breath helium mixture in a test to see if it changed the pitch of their sounds. I think the author of the article screwed up.


RE: Where does the helium come from?
By futrtrubl on 9/7/2011 3:29:49 PM , Rating: 1
Then the author either screwed up even more in her summary or the researchers are idiots. If the dolphins make sounds the same way we do (and I think that likely since most mammals do) then helium would have the same effect on pitch as it does in us. IE increases the pitch (Donald Duck voice after breathing from a helium balloon).
That it would have the same effect if the dolphins were whistling and that no effect was observed makes me think they screwed up big time or dolphins use some exotic method of producing sound.


RE: Where does the helium come from?
By PigLickJF on 9/7/2011 4:15:47 PM , Rating: 2
Since when does Donald Duck speak with an increased pitch relative to humans? Has the author heard Donald Duck recently? Chip & Dale, sure, the Chipmunks, sure, even Micky or Minnie mouse would be fine examples, but Donald Duck? What the hell?


By sleepeeg3 on 9/7/2011 11:09:52 PM , Rating: 2
Methinks she meant Mickey.


RE: Where does the helium come from?
By GreenEnvt on 9/7/2011 3:15:38 PM , Rating: 2
I understood it as, the researchers supplied the dolphin with that helium mixture, and observed the results they listed.


By morob05 on 9/13/2011 9:06:52 AM , Rating: 2
I believe you understood it the right way, but how you came to understand it that way from reading this article is a little puzzling.

quote:
By doing this, they found that a dolphin breathes in a "heliox" mixture that consists of 80 percent helium and 20 percent oxygen.


It kind of sounds as if scientists have discovered that dolphins breathe in a heliox mixture, in general. However, it is the writer of this article that has either gotten it all wrong, or simply needs a course in conveying information.

I found a collection of articles describing the research, on Aarhus University homepage:

http://science.au.dk/nyheder-og-arrangementer/nyhe...

It's in danish but some of the links to the articles are in english. There are also two audio recordings also, one of the bottlenose sound in normal air, and one through the 4:1 heliox mixture. So the scientists did infact force the dolphin to breathe in a heliox mixture, it is not something that it does on it's own through some supermagical filtering process.


By marraco on 9/9/2011 1:30:54 PM , Rating: 2
Dolphins collect helium on human experiments with dolphins.


By aguilpa1 on 9/12/2011 3:49:14 PM , Rating: 2
Helium comes from clowns at the circus.

The question is, what are dolphins doing hanging out with all those clowns??


By peternelson on 9/8/2011 1:00:03 AM , Rating: 4
As I understand it, the dolphin "click" sounds are mainly for echolocation, and the "chirps" are for talking (communication).

Some of these sounds can travel a good distance underwater. There are problems with things moving causing doppler shift ie frequency instability. For example the participants of the conversation can be moving (dolphin swimming, ship or ROV travelling). Also the water medium can be moving in currents or pools of different salinity/density. Reflections from the sea floor or other objects may also be a problem.

I've seen these dolphin "chirps" recorded and played back as a sonogram (graph of frequencies over time). The dolphin sounds of "upchirp" and "downchirp" can still be interpreted even when the frequency at the listener has drifted in absolute frequency. In the project below, transducer "modems" copy the dolphin solution to send up and down chirps representing their binary data, sufficient for a compressed video feed from a camera on a minisub. It decodes by looking at the direction of the ramp rather than a specific precise frequency.

Ideally the system is configured for power to be above the noise floor but not so loud as to drown out animal communication.

This technique is also effective for transmitting data through the metal hull of a submarine without punching a hole through it for wires. It can also pass data through an interior bulkhead between compartments in a vessel.

Pretty neat technology inspired by Dolphin talk!

Project in the Marine department of Newcastle University:

"Development of acoustically controlled underwater vehicle
From October 2009 to September 2012
Project Leader(s): Mr Jeff Neasham
Sponsors: Tritech International

This project is developing a high data rate, full duplex acoustic communication system and control schemes to enable small ROVs to operate without an umbilical cable. This requires advances in underwater acoustic signal processing, modulation and coding, Doppler compensation, video compression and vehicle control algorithms. A prototype tetherless vehicle has been constructed to act as a testbed for all of the above technologies."

The research has developed a bidirectional data link that can be used for ROV telemetry and video, or communication between divers swimming underwater and with the surface boat (maybe like an SMS pad). It is also possible to use more than one device (ie control 2 ROVs at the same time).

It seemed to me that the dolphins were using the acoustic "spectrum" in a more efficient way than these modems. ie some chirps were non-linear slope or short and long sweeps, so it is possible a refinement of the invention could deliver higher bandwidth at a given modulation rate.

Next we just need to understand what those dolphins are saying! I think they respond to recorded samples played back.




Contradiction?
By CZroe on 9/8/2011 9:49:12 AM , Rating: 2
I could not help but notice that the article seems to contradict itself. It says that they communicate like humans because their voice boxes do not behave like humans when the density of the gasses changes. They are like humans because they are unlike humans?




Gag me now
By Reclaimer77 on 9/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: Gag me now
By 3DoubleD on 9/7/2011 4:01:16 PM , Rating: 1
I'm not sure how it is naive or extreme. If we learned dolphins were capable of conversing with us, I would expect they would be treated much better, if not because of the mere fact that something so cute and cuddly can also talk. Better treatment would clearly be in the best interest of dolphins... I'm sure at least 9 out of 10 dolphins would agree - although they might quibble about leadership, taxes, government spending, and health care before confirming this totally obvious fact.

So I'd agree that it isn't a stretch to say that dolphins would "love the chance to speak to us", even if they don't realize it yet.

Now if you meant the idea of a dolphin understanding international fishing and environmental policies and arguing on behalf of their species... then I agree, it's a bit naive and extreme.

... oh wait, I see, you were taking a shot at preserving the environment. Good one.


RE: Gag me now
By Reclaimer77 on 9/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: Gag me now
By delphinus100 on 9/7/2011 10:21:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
They are animals slightly more intelligent than other animals.


So, what makes you certain of that assertion?

It's also presumptuous to assume that it may not be something significantly closer to our own 'intelligence,' even if expressed differently.


RE: Gag me now
By Skywalker123 on 9/8/2011 12:31:51 AM , Rating: 2
They want to eat, breed and that's pretty much it. Sounds pretty much like most humans. How the F*ck do you know what dolphins want you moron?


RE: Gag me now
By Redback on 9/8/2011 5:27:16 AM , Rating: 3
Whilst their language structure is yet to be understood, there is no evidence to suggest it's not as complex as human language.

Maybe you'd like to do some research on dolphin intelligence before burdening us with your ignorant opinions.

Start with a simple search on "Cetacean cerebral cortex complexity" and take it from there. You might learn something.

In reality, dolphins have several sound production organs, an auditory emission and reception range more than double that of humans, and their brains have twice the number of auditory processing neurons.

Test results indicate they can deal with twenty times as much auditory information as humans. Only a small portion of that is required for echo-location.

Furthermore, Broca's and Wernicke's areas are not only present in Dolphin brains, they are very well developed, indicating complex linguistic processing ability.

Consequently, I doubt their language is anything like ours, - I suspect it's vastly more sophisticated and when it comes to communication, we are simply their "grunting" landlubberly mammalian relatives.


RE: Gag me now
By delphinus100 on 9/8/2011 8:15:27 PM , Rating: 2
Searching "dolphins"+"syntax" would be enlightening as well...


RE: Gag me now
By mindless1 on 9/12/2011 12:36:08 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, yes there is evidence that suggests it's not a complex.

1) Their language is limited in scope to either what is instinctually passed on, or learned from the small subset of the species that each member meets.

2) Their language is based only upon the world they can observe, without written records, without communication across distances that human communication travels. Humans "invent" new concepts and words all the time while the dolphin environment is fairly static.

Yes dolphins are relatively intelligent but that in no way suggests any particular complexity of their language. Could theirs being the 2nd most complex after humans? Perhaps, but to arbitrarily assign their language complexity as equal, "as complex" would be a silly notion. Seldom if ever are two different things magically equal, the notion of "0" or equal on a scale is a human invention in itself.

Show me all the things that dolphins invent.


RE: Gag me now
By yxalitis on 9/8/2011 10:45:06 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, the only sensible post in a sea of misinformation, guess-work, and bizarre interpretations, and it's marked down??

why??

oh, yeah, Dailytech, I forgot...


RE: Gag me now
By delphinus100 on 9/9/2011 11:17:57 PM , Rating: 2
So, how much dolphin research have you familiarized yourself with?

The flip side of anthropomorphism is the denial that other animals might indeed have any characteristics (particularly cognitive ones) that are similar to our own.

Blinders work both ways.

Yes, it requires proof. The data to date are at least strongly suggestive that this is so at least for tursiops truncatus and orcinus orca. But you have to look for it. It won't come to you.

Start here...

http://delphinus100.angelfire.com/link3.htm#Dolphi...

...or not. Your call.


RE: Gag me now
By captainBOB on 9/7/2011 4:22:57 PM , Rating: 2
Not really, I'm sure that if we discovered that Dolphin's are just as sapient as humans are then i'm pretty sure that the save the dolphin movement would suddenly not be so extremist, since its not just a "dumb animal" but an actual sapient species with knowledge to share potentially.

Obligatory "I for one welcome our dolphin overlords"


RE: Gag me now
By geddarkstorm on 9/7/2011 5:14:39 PM , Rating: 1
Save the dolphin's from what? Most are doing just fine on their own, thank you. The ocean is huge, they don't need us chasing after them trying to "save" them.

There are a few river species (or at least one) in China that is having a bad time however, and does need intervention. Not much room to swim away and avoid people when in a river.


RE: Gag me now
By Reclaimer77 on 9/7/11, Rating: 0
RE: Gag me now
By ClownPuncher on 9/7/2011 7:11:01 PM , Rating: 2
You don't want to learn about dolphin culture? I'm pretty sure they all know the location of Atlantis.


RE: Gag me now
By delphinus100 on 9/7/2011 10:24:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
...they don't need us chasing after them trying to "save" them.


They do, when the threat comes from us.


RE: Gag me now
By Reclaimer77 on 9/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: Gag me now
By peternelson on 9/8/2011 1:11:08 AM , Rating: 2
Humans are dumping large quantities of plastic waste (eg bottles) which accumulate in some parts of the ocean where the currents take them.

Dolphins probably have an opinion on the recent BP oil spill disaster too.

Not to mention the untreated sewage, toxic chemicals, and in the case of Japan, radioactive leakage from power stations.


RE: Gag me now
By AssBall on 9/8/2011 4:00:17 AM , Rating: 1
Did you watch the little mermaid too many times as a kid or what? Do the phytoplankton have a strong opinion about man's effect on the oceans too? Why not?

You only have faith that dolphins have an opinion. You want to believe it because it makes you feel better.


RE: Gag me now
By peternelson on 9/8/2011 6:42:28 AM , Rating: 2
Sometimes we project human-like traits onto animals, so-called anthropomorphism.

But if you have a dog or cat, even if they don't communicate exactly the way we do, some animals can have opinions.

Cats and dogs can have favorite foods that they prefer. "8 out of 10 cats preferred it". Dogs can become excited. A clever border collie dog in USA has a vocabulary of over 1000 words. Guide dogs for the blind with training can understand traffic dangers.

Dolphins have been observed to at times work cooperatively in group fishing for food, and at times are documented to have also helped humans. Sometimes they can be "playful". To balance this some have been agressive, but so have supposedly intelligent humans.

I don't think dolphins understand why humans build oil rigs or how they work. However, if they find their environment is one day uncharacteristically filled with oily sludge I don't think they are happy about it.

Even if you don't believe that, I also prefixed with "probably".


RE: Gag me now
By Reclaimer77 on 9/8/2011 9:37:28 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Did you watch the little mermaid too many times as a kid or what? Do the phytoplankton have a strong opinion about man's effect on the oceans too? Why not? You only have faith that dolphins have an opinion. You want to believe it because it makes you feel better.


Someone with common sense! Thank you. Reading these bleeding heart morons with their idiotic ramblings and their need to project humanity onto nature was making me nuts.

A person dies, meah, whatever they don't care. But oh god, dolphins die and they get indignant as hell and claim we need them to "communicate" with us. Pah!


RE: Gag me now
By Skywalker123 on 9/10/2011 11:20:59 PM , Rating: 1
You were nuts before you ever came to Dailytech. The only people's death we don't care about is people like you.


RE: Gag me now
By Redback on 9/8/2011 6:14:42 PM , Rating: 2
You really are an ignoramus aren't you?

In one Japanese town alone they slaughter around 2,000 dolphins annually and in Japanese waters up to 20,000 dolphins are killed each year.

An annual "ritual" killing of dolphins and small whales takes place in the Faroe Islands in Europe, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of small cetaceans.

Indiscriminate fishing and netting practices also result in thousands (if not tens of thousands) of dolphin fatalities each year.

Your ignorance is an embarrassment to humanity.


RE: Gag me now
By Reclaimer77 on 9/8/2011 9:32:52 PM , Rating: 2
You don't get me at all. So let me get this right, we need Dolphins to "communicate" with us and tell us that we shouldn't be doing these things? I mean do you get how stupid that sounds?

Go hug a tree, dumbass.


RE: Gag me now
By Redback on 9/8/2011 11:53:26 PM , Rating: 2
Actually cock-head, my responses were to your display of total ignorance.

1. Your assumption that our language (being hierarchical) must be superior to that of dolphins when in fact that's not necessarily the case and future research may prove just the opposite.

2. Your misguided belief that dolphins are only slightly more intelligent than some other animals. Actual research indicates they are significantly more intelligent in specific aspects of their behaviour and in their ability to communicate, perhaps even better than humans.

2. Your assertion that dolphins aren't being "slaughtered" by humans, when just a little research would correct that misconception.

Your straw-man argument is irrelevant and not even something to which I alluded.

I guess we can add illiteracy to your growing list of incompetencies.

Tell me, can you walk upright?


RE: Gag me now
By Reclaimer77 on 9/9/2011 8:48:21 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
1. Your assumption that our language (being hierarchical) must be superior to that of dolphins when in fact that's not necessarily the case and future research may prove just the opposite.


Talk about assumptions! I never said it was "superior". I suggested it might not be possible for the two languages to have a common ground, a contextual understanding. Do you get that?

quote:
2. Your misguided belief that dolphins are only slightly more intelligent than some other animals.


It's called being dismissive. And this doesn't matter. Being more intelligent does not mean they communicate in terms or a context that we can understand or translate. How many times do I need to say this?

You sound like another idiot who's watched too many Disney movies. And for all your slamming me on facts, you come off as a hypocrite because there are NO facts disproving my statement. We have NO proof that man and dolphin can communicate on equal terms. Do you dispute this?


RE: Gag me now
By Redback on 9/10/2011 11:08:39 PM , Rating: 2
Go back and re-read my posts.

Then read them again.

And again.

When you finally comprehend the points I was making (assuming our Sun has enough hydrogen to last that long) then perhaps we can have a debate.

In the meantime try opening what (whimsically) passes for your mind.

I provided enough facts to disprove two of your statements and cast significant doubt over the veracity of the other.

At no stage did I say the respective species' languages would be similar. Just the opposite. I actually said "I doubt their language is anything like ours".

I simply posted to correct your dismissive, arrogant, opinionated and ignorant misrepresentation of the facts.

If you can't understand that, you may quite possibly be one of the least intelligent organisms on the planet.

Still, having read some of your other posts I'd imagine you hear that quite frequently...


RE: Gag me now
By Reclaimer77 on 9/11/2011 9:44:22 AM , Rating: 2
I understood all your points just fine, that doesn't mean however that I have to agree with them.

The fact that you suggested dolphins could be more intelligent than man tells me all I need to know. You're a hopelessly biased activist who will never listen to reason.

And attacking others intelligence and reasoning to win a debate via ad hominem attacks isn't exactly showing me that you're taking the higher ground here. If you really wanted a discussion I think you would have used a different approach. Again, very hypocritical for someone who calls others dismissive, ignorant and opinionated.

quote:
If you can't understand that, you may quite possibly be one of the least intelligent organisms on the planet.


You're the one who seeks to undo millions of years of evolution to be intellectual equals with a lesser species.


RE: Gag me now
By Skywalker123 on 9/11/2011 1:57:01 AM , Rating: 2
We get you, you're a retard, who thinks that only humans deserve any space on the planet.


RE: Gag me now
By delphinus100 on 9/8/2011 8:22:21 PM , Rating: 1
Search "dolphins"+"tuna" There's a reason some tuna cans are explicitly labeled as 'dolphin safe.'

Try "dolphins"+"Iki island" as well...

Then tell me again. This isn't about 'demonizing humanity,' it's about facts regarding dolphins. You appear to have few at your command.


RE: Gag me now
By sleepeeg3 on 9/7/2011 11:08:55 PM , Rating: 2
It was "insect overlords" episode 1F13. Dolphin episode was BABF21. Brockman was mooshed by a beach ball in the dolphin episode.


RE: Gag me now
By AssBall on 9/7/2011 5:13:18 PM , Rating: 2
Its not like this is all new. Didn't anyone watch Johnny Mnemonic? Jeez.


RE: Gag me now
By ClownPuncher on 9/7/2011 5:19:40 PM , Rating: 2
Not really. You're just easily inflamed by pointless comments.


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