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Bob Iger and George Lucas  (Source: The Walt Disney Company)
Disney will make Episodes 7, 8 and 9 as well

"Star Wars" will be making its way back to the big screen now that The Walt Disney Company has acquired Lucasfilm Ltd. for $4.05 billion USD. 
 
Disney said it is buying Lucasfilm Ltd. with cash and stock, and the deal includes Lucasfilm's high-tech production companies (Industrial Light & Magic and Skywalker Sound) and the rights to the "Indiana Jones" franchise.
 
Even though George Lucas, the creator of "Star Wars" and founder of Lucasfilm Ltd., said he was done making new versions of his mega popular epic space opera, he's going to allow Disney to bring "Star Wars" back to life. 
 
Disney is currently working on a new "Star Wars" trilogy, beginning with "Episode 7." The new episode is due out in 2015, and Episodes 8 and 9 will shortly follow. According to Disney, the new trilogy will follow Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia and Han Solo beyond "Return of the Jedi," which was the third film in the original trilogy (but is chronologically the sixth film in the franchise).
 
"For the past 35 years, one of my greatest pleasures has been to see 'Star Wars' passed from one generation to the next," said Lucas. "It's now time for me to pass 'Star Wars' on to a new generation of filmmakers. I've always believed that 'Star Wars' could live beyond me, and I thought it was important to set up the transition during my lifetime."
 
 
Kathleen Kennedy, the current co-chairman of Lucasfilm, will become the president of the unit. She will also be executive producer for the new trilogy. 
 
Kennedy has been working with Lucas and a team of writers to discuss the storyline for "Episode 7." Kennedy said it's essential to have Lucas present as a key advisor during the making of the next trilogy, and she even referred to him as "her Yoda." Lucas has provided his story lines for the new trilogy. 
 
"I always said I wasn't going to do any more and that's true, because I'm not going to do any more, but that doesn't mean I'm unwilling to turn it over to Kathy to do more," said Lucas.
 
Lucas has received quite a bit of criticism in the recent past due to his decisions involving "Star Wars." Despite creating the hugely popular original trilogy in the 1970s and 80s, he quickly became the bad guy when the second trilogy was released. Many fans disliked the new story line, which took place prior to the original trilogy. Fans also hated new characters, such as Jar Jar Binks. 
 
To make matters worse, Lucas changed some key details in the original trilogy (such as the scene where Greedo takes the first shot at Han Solo in a bar) and released 3D versions of the movies earlier this year, marking Lucas as a "sell out." 

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People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Rob94hawk on 10/30/2012 8:11:15 PM , Rating: 2
People will hate episode 7, 8 & 9 no matter what UNLESS they bring the original characters from the 70's & 80's into the movies. I grew up with the the original trilogy but liked the new one's better.

It's gonna be interesting to see how they fit the new story lines into the movie. I'd throw a spoiler in (someone significant dies) but I don't want to piss anyone off. Looking forward to it.




RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Manch on 10/30/2012 9:39:11 PM , Rating: 4
Chewbacca finally rips the arms off C3PO and beats him to death?

As much as they have butchered ep IV,V,& VI repeatedly for "special editions", and good God the disappointment ep I,II,& III were, do you really expect them to follow the books and stay true to the source material?

Regardless, I do love Star Wars and I'll give it a chance but I dont have high hopes.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Captain Orgazmo on 10/30/2012 9:53:05 PM , Rating: 5
Star Wars had no "source material". The books came after the movie was made. As a teenager in the 90s I read Timothy Zahn's trilogy set a few years after the original movies, and at the time I thought they were excellent, and the natural material on which to base a new trilogy of movies. They are quite dark, even more than Empire Strikes Back (my favorite SW movie by far). Knowing Disney however, I don't have high hopes at all.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By GulWestfale on 10/30/2012 10:17:37 PM , Rating: 5
Ashton Kutcher is Han Solo
Miley Cyrus is Leia
Justin Bieber is Luke Skywalker
Jaden Smith is Lando Calrisssian
Michael Cera is C3P0
Honey Boo Boo is R2D2
and Snooki as Yoda

Episode VII: Douchebag Reunion
Directed by Michael Bay


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By MechanicalTechie on 10/30/2012 10:25:38 PM , Rating: 2
Who the hell is honey boo boo and Snooki... sounds like cartoon characters... and for that matter Miley Cyrus, Jaden Smith and Michael Cera... or would my little world be better off not knowing?


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Spuke on 10/30/2012 11:23:04 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
would my little world be better off not knowing
You really don't want to know.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Samus on 10/31/2012 1:02:12 AM , Rating: 2
I think Disney did as good of a job as they could do remaking Tron (after all, it's hard to make a "bad" film when you spend 250+ million...unless you're Michael Bay)

But in all fairness, Episode III was pretty good. All three new episodes were ok but obviously we're talking about a different time and a different audience. It is impossible to keep the original audience happy while also catering to a new audience. Look at the original Star Wars, for example. If it were never release, and released today as new material, everyone would laugh.

As is with all sci-fi, there's always some balding overweight critic that can't use it to successfully escape his awful reality and has to throw jabs at it.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By inperfectdarkness on 10/31/2012 1:44:47 AM , Rating: 2
Episode 3 was not good. It was barely better than 1, and I shudder to think how anything could be worse than 2. Go watch the Red Letter Media review on the prequel trilogy. I myself did not know how incredibad those movies were before it was explained to me--I just knew they didn't sit well.

For the record, the actors don't have to be the same ones from 4-6 for the sequels to be good. What is required is that the movies stick to a basic, understandable, emotionally compelling formula--identical to the original trilogy. The lightsaber fights are a key example of this. In the original trilogy, the fights were about emotions and character interaction. In the prequels, it was just a martial-arts exhibition.

I there is only one battle scene in the entire movie, that's probably a good thing. We need to get attached to the characters. Lucas has completely forgotten that.


By Ammohunt on 10/31/2012 11:15:30 PM , Rating: 2
I thought the prequels were decent if you can forgive mitochlorians and jar jar. What is total trash is the Clone wars animated series it lowers the bar for the next generation of star wars fans. Either way can disney screw up the Star Wars franchise and worse than Lucas himself? his latest work on the series makes you wonder if it truly was him that came up with Star Wars...clueless.


By Bonesdad on 10/31/2012 11:19:11 PM , Rating: 2
For me, Star Wars ended after The Empire Strikes Back. All rubbish after that. Still don't understand that it attracts people after all the damage Lucas did to it after TESB. When I was a kid, I seem to remember Lucas saying that there were going to be 9 films, with 3 more to follow the middle episodes...anyone else remember that?


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Shadowmaster625 on 11/1/2012 11:13:43 AM , Rating: 2
The criticism of episodes I-III is partly politically motivated. These films dramatize and sensationalize a transition to outright tyranny that is occurring in almost the same way in the real world. Most of these critics simply cannot comprehend the intricacies of the plot, because doing so threatens their paradigm. It invokes cognitive dissonance. They just cannot get into the story because doing so might cause an epiphany or two; it might cause them to question their own mealticket. And moreover, they cannot grasp the weight of the plot, or its historical significance, because they are trained to be blind to the concepts presented. Trained by self interest. Like most of the dumbed down masses they dont want anything to do with any Greater Truth, and will invoke cognitive dissonance when any subject or story gets to close to the truth. So they of course arent going to respect the story. The story is something that is playing out in the real world right now, for those not too frickin ignorant or blind to be able to see it. I'm not too terribly impressed by the acting, but then again the acting in any star wars film was never great.


By RufusM on 11/1/2012 6:10:15 PM , Rating: 2
Why not just come out and say what you mean. I'm guessing but here goes:

The UN is the Galactic Empire?
The US is the Galactic Republic (maybe the Western World)?
The UN is plotting to destroy the US (Western World) first by political takeover, then by force later?
Once that happens, the UN will hunt down and kill all of the Jedi? :)


By Manch on 11/1/2012 11:47:25 PM , Rating: 2
I dont think you give people enough credit. Most people understand the story and where it draws it's inpirations from. It's the endless CGI filler crap, horrible acting, the gigantic holes GL punched into the SW mythos, that ultimately made the movies just bad.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By lowsidex2 on 10/31/2012 12:01:42 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Directed by Michael Bay

Hilarious!

Episode VII: The Galaxy Explodes


By FITCamaro on 10/31/2012 7:02:00 PM , Rating: 3
Nope. Doesn't leave room for 8 and 9.

Episode VII (from Michael Bay): Threat of the Galaxy Exploding

Episode VIII: The Galaxy Will Explode

Episode IX: The Galaxy Explodes


By sviola on 11/1/2012 2:04:24 PM , Rating: 2
Better yet:

Episode VII: The Dark Side of the Death Star


By sviola on 11/1/2012 2:20:27 PM , Rating: 2
Better yet:

Episode VII: The Dark Side of the Death Star


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By anactoraaron on 10/31/2012 12:37:01 AM , Rating: 3
Well Disney did make 'The Avengers' and if that's the angle they will make ep's 7, 8, & 9 with then Star Wars will be dumbed down even more. Not that 'The Avengers' was a bad movie or anything, it lacked depth. The story and mythology are EVERYTHING to Star Wars and to drift away from that kills it... kind of like the miticlorian thing brought into ep 1 ("This boy has the highest sample of miticlorian ever"...wtf is a miticlorian??)

I agree Michael Bay will direct it but the focus will be on ships blowing up in outer space (BOOM!) and completely ridiculous force powers will be added (OOOH!). Action without dialogue or purpose, and no story whatsoever. All about the BOOMS and oooohs and ahhhs.


By Florinator on 10/31/2012 11:29:39 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
("This boy has the highest sample of miticlorian ever"...wtf is a miticlorian??)


Qui-Gon explains it a few minutes later:

ANAKIN : Master, sir...I've been wondering...what are midi-chlorians?
QUI-GON : Midi-chlorians are a microcopic lifeform that reside within all
living cells and communicates with the Force.
ANAKIN : They live inside of me?
QUI-GON : In your cells. We are symbionts with the midi-chlorians.
ANAKIN : Symbionts?
QUI-GON : Life forms living together for mutual advantage. Without the
midi-chlorians, life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the
Force. They continually speak to you, telling you the will of the Force.
ANAKIN : They do??
QUI-GON : When you learn to quiet your mind, you will hear them speaking to
you.
ANAKIN : I don't understand.
QUI-GON : With time and training, Annie...you will.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2012 7:02:45 PM , Rating: 2
Hey. Give them to pick a genius like Josh Whedon.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By JediJeb on 10/31/2012 8:36:52 PM , Rating: 3
Josh could make it what it should be, not many others could I fear.


By Samus on 11/1/2012 3:30:29 AM , Rating: 2
Josh has a habit of pissing off studio's to appease his fans though.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/31/2012 7:54:24 PM , Rating: 2
The Avengers was only good because it had the depth of a blade of grass and plenty of action. Most of the development of the characters and background took place in prior Marvel films.

Disney is not known for making good movies. They do however fund studios like Marvel that do a decent job. Star Wars != Marvel though. We tried the tons of action and little plot and we got the prequel trilogy that everyone hated.

Frankly I think Disney will hose up Star Wars worse than Lucas ever did. At least with Lucas he left the post ROTJ timeline alone, Disney is going to fubar that and piss all over the novels that were far better than any of the movies.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By JediJeb on 10/31/2012 8:48:08 PM , Rating: 2
If they will stick to Lucas' original story line for the last trilogy which was released to provide the backbone for the Thrawn trilogy of books then it might be good. The problem will be getting Disney to put out such a dark series of movies which would be the best plots but not so good for children.

Their best bet to succeed would be to fork the series and make the darker Thrawn trilogy for adults while splitting out something along the lines of the Young Jedi Academy series following the Solo children geared for the youth market.

The whole Star Wars story has so much depth that it can be handled many different ways to reach a broad range of audiences. It seems so far that Lucas Films will still be headed up by the current exec so maybe they will have enough control still to make it work separate from Disney itself. I wonder if there has been any more followup to the rumors of a live action TV series that was supposed to already be in pre-production?


By Master Kenobi (blog) on 11/1/2012 5:07:50 AM , Rating: 3
Who knows. Disney I fear will take Star Wars down to PG route and not into the PG-13/R route it needs to go.


By FITCamaro on 11/1/2012 7:02:01 AM , Rating: 2
Supposedly they're targeting all new story lines for 7-9 instead of using something from the expanded universe. So no Thrawn Trilogy.

Yup. Probably gonna suck....


By Gladius777 on 11/1/2012 12:46:14 AM , Rating: 2
Another version

Ashton Kutcher is Han Solo
Miley Cyrus is Leia
Justin Bieber is Luke Skywalker
Jaden Smith is Lando Calrisssian
Barak Obama is Darth Vader’s Shade
Pope Benedict is the Emperor’s Shade
Lassie is Chewbacca
Michael Cera is C3PO
iPhone 5 is R2D2
Ben Stiller is Jar Jar Binks
Elvis is himself
and Winnie the Pooh as Yoda

Episode VII: Douchebag Reunion/Identity/Ultimatum/Legacy/Teddy Bear Picnic
Directed by Michael Bay


By Rott3nHIppi3 on 11/1/2012 2:46:21 PM , Rating: 3
No, No... you're not taking PC into play here. If 'lucy lui' is Watson in the new 'Sherlock' TV series, then you can bet your ass Disney will mix things up.

Han Solo - Alec Baldwin
Leia - Shared role by the Olsen Twins
Luke - DMX (can't have a white hero)
Lando - Jesse Jackson (who better to play good/bad)
C3P0 - Optimus Prime
R2D2 - Something made by Fisker with a 'green' label on it
Yoda - Ice Cube

Episode VII - Death Star Warming (look for sex in the clouds!!).


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Regected on 10/30/2012 10:34:45 PM , Rating: 2
The Star Wars saga was written as a series of novels long before the original movies came out. They were just never published.


By fishman on 10/31/2012 7:41:19 AM , Rating: 3
Sorry, but you are completely wrong.


By BillyBatson on 10/31/2012 9:34:01 AM , Rating: 2
Completely wrong.


By JediJeb on 10/31/2012 8:59:28 PM , Rating: 2
The Star Wars novel was written from the script of Episode IV A New Hope. After that came Splinter of the Mind's Eye written by Allen Dean Foster as filler between Ep IV and The Empire Strikes Back. There weren't any more novels until Return of the Jedi, after that there were several more mostly following Luke Skywalker up until they released the plots for what Lucas had drawn up for EP VII, VIII and IX which was the Thrawn Trilogy where the New Republic was beginning and the remnants of the Empire were engaged in their final battles.

I could go to my bookshelf and list them all in order either chronologically by publish date or in the timeline of the story order, but I am afraid I would run out of room here lol. I guess I am just too much of a fan/geek when it comes to Star Wars.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Manch on 10/31/2012 10:53:32 AM , Rating: 2
Of course it does. The original trilogy defined how everything that came after it is laid out. Numerous stories with the original characters after ep VI have been written, so there is source material for them to look at with regards to VII-IX.

The failure from a story point of view with the ep I-III is they strayed too far and there was so much pointless filler in those movies just for the sake of selling toys, that when it came down to the actual story of how Vader came to be it was all compressed into mainly EP III. The CGI made everything so damn cartoonish that it removes you from the SW world and never feels like it belongs. How many minutes of pure CGI crap was there in those movies?

Watching those was aken to expecting to drink a Coke and instead they gave you a Coke Zero. Taste similar but its not right.

It's not that they cant write a new story for EP VII-IX, but if they do not mind what has been written they risk discontinuity, and it will remove you from the world and the story they are trying to tell instead of pulling you in.

Regardless they will be blockbusters. Cant stop the SW toy machine


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Captain Orgazmo on 10/31/2012 3:54:12 PM , Rating: 2
Did you read my post? I said "Star Wars" (as in the film, AKA Episode IV: A New Hope) was an original work. Then I mentioned a possible source for the next trilogy. There are numerous other novels written in the same universe, same characters, that could be used as well.

I'd rather pretend that Eps I-III were never made. Hopefully someone can make a prequel type of movie with the backstory of Han and Chewbacca, that would be much better (with no noticeable CGI, preferably).


By JediJeb on 10/31/2012 8:52:08 PM , Rating: 2
There are six books on that subject that would be great story ideas for movies about Han and Chewy. Also there were three on the background of Lando that are ok also.


By Manch on 10/31/2012 11:36:32 PM , Rating: 2
In regards to EP VII-IX (Which is the topic of the article FYI) I said: "do you really expect them to follow the books and stay true to the source material?"

you replied:
quote:
Star Wars had no "source material".
and after that you mentioned the Thrawn Trilogy(I would consider this source material for the new EPs...just sayin).

They are books btw that tell a story of events after EP VI. There are several others that would make for a very long list which is why I just said books.

Also the film EP IV was made using source material!!!!

Did you mean to reply to someone else? or have you not had enough coffee?



By FITCamaro on 10/30/2012 11:02:38 PM , Rating: 2
Well Chewie is dead now so....


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By DiscoWade on 10/31/2012 8:14:21 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Chewbacca finally rips the arms off C3PO and beats him to death?


I would love to see that. I never really liked C3PO. Sometimes I think he runs on AC and DC, if you know what I mean. But that isn't the reason I don't like him. He would always push R2D2 around but when it came time to fight, he was a wuss.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Reclaimer77 on 10/31/2012 3:05:13 PM , Rating: 3
He was also an unrepentant racist lol

"I cannot abide those Jawas. Disgusting creatures!"
C3PO - Human/Cyborg relations and galactic bigot


By MaulBall789 on 10/31/2012 6:18:41 PM , Rating: 2
What's even funnier is that 3PO gets thrown out of the bar right after he says this. "Your droids! We don't serve their kind here. They'll have to wait outside."


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By geddarkstorm on 10/30/2012 10:24:00 PM , Rating: 2
You know, if they actually do the movies based on the YV wars... Which are set 30 or so years after Return of the Jedi in the books so the actors are the right ages... That would be pretty fantastic. Like.. so fantastic (I am assuming that's what you're alluding to with your avoided spoiler).

Chances of that happening? Probably the same as us discovering midichlorians are actual things. :(


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By FITCamaro on 10/30/2012 10:58:12 PM , Rating: 2
They don't even have to go that far.

Could do the Rogue Squadron series or Wraith Squadron. Very little of the original characters in those. And not set far past the ending of Episode VI either.


By Gio6518 on 10/31/2012 12:27:18 AM , Rating: 3
I'm hoping for Jedi outcast.... Has some of the original characters, but got a make them quick


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By AssBall on 10/31/2012 1:35:53 AM , Rating: 5
I thought the Timothy Zahn trilogy was better than most of the novels afterward. Admiral Thrawn! They might be a little bit too serious for a disney adaptation though... >:(


By FITCamaro on 10/31/2012 8:24:17 AM , Rating: 2
Admiral Thrawn series also would be good.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Paj on 10/31/2012 8:49:22 AM , Rating: 2
Admiral Thrawn would make for an amazing character onscreen.

Maybe someone like Zachary Quinto (Spock from new Star Trek) could play him well.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2012 10:20:29 AM , Rating: 2
If he played Thrawn knowing Hollywood they'd then twist that into him having a gay love interest in his Noghri bodyguard.


By geddarkstorm on 11/1/2012 11:35:22 AM , Rating: 2
Come on, you know everyone is gay for the Noghri ;)


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Reclaimer77 on 10/31/2012 1:39:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Maybe someone like Zachary Quinto (Spock from new Star Trek) could play him well.


He's way too young to play Thrawn. Unless you put him in crappy old guy makeup like Guy Pierce in Prometheus (gag).

Thrawn should be played by a classically trained old British actor, of course. Anything less, would be uncivilized :)


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2012 2:05:32 PM , Rating: 2
Pierce Brosnan?


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Reclaimer77 on 10/31/2012 2:13:59 PM , Rating: 2
Not a bad choice if you go that route. But one of my favorite things about the original trilogy was it was filled with relatively unknown actors. It seems like nobody today thinks they can make a good movie unless it's chocked full of famous people.


By FITCamaro on 10/31/2012 5:09:52 PM , Rating: 2
Fair enough. I'm not against relative unknowns. Actually from watching the new show Elementary, I think that guy would make a good Thrawn if what you're looking for is a British accent and a good ability to show a range of emotion. With the Thrawn character the most important emotion to be able to show is a complete lack of emotion.....maybe Keanu Reeves can do a British Accent....


By geddarkstorm on 11/1/2012 11:36:49 AM , Rating: 2
Oh man, I would just adore movies based on Rogue Squadron. Bring back memories of those glorious X-wing/Tie Fighter games, but on the big screen.


By JediJeb on 10/31/2012 9:05:54 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Chances of that happening? Probably the same as us discovering midichlorians are actual things. :(


They are real, Qui Gon simply mispronounced Mitochondria :)


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Reclaimer77 on 10/31/12, Rating: 0
By twhittet on 10/31/2012 10:37:09 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Are you sure you "grew up" at all?


Great question!


By marvdmartian on 10/31/2012 8:20:03 AM , Rating: 2
The beauty of this, is that since it's been 35 years since the release of Star Wars, all the original stars are now all in their 60's (Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, etc) & 70's (Harrison Ford).

All they have to do now, is make episode 7's timeline to be 40 years after the destruction of the 2nd Death Star, and the same actors can play the same roles, only now as elders! Win!!


By frobizzle on 10/31/2012 10:24:34 AM , Rating: 4
Here is what likely will happen:

In the next movie, the Jedi will suddenly break into song and dance every 10 minutes.

A stage play will be created called "Springtime for Vader on Tatooine"


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By tayb on 10/31/2012 1:14:48 PM , Rating: 2
I was thinking about this last night. All the characters from the original movies are still alive and it would make sense to have the 7th movie take place some 30-40 years after the events of Return of the Jedi otherwise Episode VII would just be a continuation of the war against the Empire. Blowing up the second Death Star doesn't end the war.

I could see Luke (Hamill) having a significant role in the story as a "Jedi elder" or "new Yoda" type of character. I think it could be really great. I am of the opinion that Lucas was the problem with Episodes I - III and that with proper writing Episodes VII - IX could be excellent movies.

A lot of people thought the Star Trek reboot would be crap but I thoroughly enjoyed that movie and it was received extremely well overall.


RE: People will hate episodes 7, 8 & 9..
By Manch on 10/31/2012 2:59:50 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
A lot of people thought the Star Trek reboot would be crap but I thoroughly enjoyed that movie and it was received extremely well overall.


That's because Lucas wasnt allowed near it!


By ComputerJuice on 10/31/2012 4:01:17 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
That's because Lucas wasnt allowed near it!


why would Lucas be allowed near star trek?


Star Wars is dead
By superstition on 10/30/2012 11:09:17 PM , Rating: 1
The films will never be good again.

You know why?

Because we have a kiddie culture now. Even the third film had Ewoks. The dumbing-down will continue, although it's hard to go down from Episode 1 and the other two.

My sister and I loved the first movies when we were kids, especially the first two, but they are films that even adults can love. That is not the case for the three "prequels". Lucas went kiddie and the series was crap from beginning to end.

Adults today don't demand films for themselves much. Now everything is aimed at kids and the adults come with them. Look at the B/W era, with films like Dr. Strangelove. Good luck finding anything even slightly cerebral in today's Hollywood.




RE: Star Wars is dead
By Spuke on 10/30/2012 11:26:00 PM , Rating: 2
After The Matrix smoked everyone's brains, I doubt we'll ever see a deeper than a blade of grass level movie again.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By Ushio01 on 10/31/2012 3:48:01 AM , Rating: 3
Have you seen Inception and Dark Knight?


RE: Star Wars is dead
By Spuke on 10/31/2012 3:53:19 PM , Rating: 2
Ah Inception! Yep, got me on that one. But Dark Knight? Nah.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By Manch on 10/31/2012 3:01:04 PM , Rating: 2
The first matrix was good. The next two sucked


RE: Star Wars is dead
By Spuke on 10/31/2012 5:07:02 PM , Rating: 2
The second was perfect! I watch that one more than any of them. The third was a let down.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2012 8:26:14 AM , Rating: 2
The Ewoks were there to show how even small things can defeat evil. There was nothing "kiddie" about them in RotJ.

Now the prequels, yeah.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By BillyBatson on 10/31/2012 9:38:31 AM , Rating: 2
The ewoks were incredibly kiddie and wet th jarjar binks of their day. George Lucas didn't write episodes 4 and 5, his contribution was episode 6 and the ewoks easily considered th worst of th 3 original movies.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2012 10:21:33 AM , Rating: 2
Everyone has their opinions. As a lover of the ORIGINAL trilogy, I have no issues with the Ewoks.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By Reclaimer77 on 10/31/2012 11:52:58 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry you're wrong. Jedi could easily be the best of the original trilogy. Millions of people have it as their favorite.

How Ewoks completely ruin the bad ass story in your mind is just silly. We're introduced to Jabba the Hut, that whole part is epic. Han Solo is rescued. Luke becomes a full fledged Jedi Knight and faces his fears...and Vader and the Emperor. I mean come on, that whole confrontation on the Death Star, the fight with Vader, being tempted by the Emperor?? Pure awesomeness.

Vader revealing his humanity at the end, finally, by saving Luke is just so important to the story. And was executed flawlessly. Luke has a belief, albeit naive, that there is good even in the most wicked of people. That even the Dark Side couldn't destroy it completely. Vader didn't just save himself at the end and earn some redemption for his immortal 'force soul', but he saved Luke as well not just from the Emperor, but from having his spirit crushed if his father turned out to be just a mindless mechanical shell.

I can't even put into words how epic Return of the Jedi is from a cinematic, storyline, and execution point of view. If 20 minutes of Ewok's ruin it for you, too freaking bad. Jarjar Binks was a stupid piece of CGI crap that added nothing to do with the story whatsoever. At least Ewoks had a point.

And yeah I'm not really putting into words my thoughts that great, I'm just blown away that someone could dismiss Jedi as "the worst" just because of Ewoks. When there's so much more going on with the story.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By Reclaimer77 on 10/31/2012 1:30:29 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Star Wars is dead
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2012 2:04:25 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah but now Lucas makes Vader reveal his inner whiny 16-year old girl too.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By Reclaimer77 on 10/31/2012 3:48:10 PM , Rating: 1
Lucas ruined Vader, yes. He also ruined "Anakin Skywalker" so horribly in the prequels that we don't even care he becomes Vader anyway. Because he's so unlikeable and annoying as Anakin we actually cheer for bad things to happen to him.

He also ruined Jedi's in general, utterly, with the "miticlorians" bullshit. I literally could not believe what I was watching when that came up in Episode 1. You take a mystical spiritual-like power in the Force, and then ruin it by making it a simple matter of biology and not anything special about the person itself or the power of his "belief" in the Force.

I guess if Lucas did Empire today, instead of Yoda urging Luke to feel the Force, to concentrate, to center himself; he would instead give Luke a blood transfusion or something? My how special...


RE: Star Wars is dead
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2012 5:13:19 PM , Rating: 2
Result of the age of science. If we can't explain it scientifically, it can't exist. People having "mystical" powers implies a God. Can't have that.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By Reclaimer77 on 10/31/2012 8:56:38 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah but then he threw in the "immaculate conception" with Anakins mother!! Soooo lol, I don't know what the f he's going for with that.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By BillyBatson on 11/6/2012 11:22:43 AM , Rating: 2
This did ruin the story. The appeal of Star Wars to a wide audience was because people felt the characters were relateable, if you tried hard enough, trained hard enough, believed hard enough.... Anything could be possible and any average joe could become a hero.... With the reboot of the series Lucas completely changed that now all the training in the world from Yoda couldn't make an average guy like me with no special bacteria in my blood that was handed down through birth into a Jedi.
Lucas is a talentless hack!!!


RE: Star Wars is dead
By BillyBatson on 11/6/2012 11:11:45 AM , Rating: 2
SORRY reclaimer but out of the 3 original movies, part 3 is unanimously considered the WORST of the 3, the most over the top and poorly written of the 3, the stupid ewoks brining down the sith.... It truly is the most "Disney" like movie of the 3. It is also he only movie of the original 3 that George Lucas wrote.
Part 2 is considered the best of all 6 movies.
Like I said talentless hack. And you have poor taste in movies if you think 3 is the best.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By ComputerJuice on 10/31/2012 4:12:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The Ewoks were there to show how even small things can defeat evil. There was nothing "kiddie" about them in RotJ.


Well... kinda yes in his result, but mostly no.

The story ROJ story conclusion was originally to have taken place outside of the Wookie slave/home world of Kashyyyk. Lucas however made the film more kid friendly by using Ewoks & Endor resulting in your small things can defeat evil statement. This was all news in 1983, when Lucas reportedly was avoiding an R rating for the film. The R rating would have been likely given due to having a bunch of 7 foot Wookies beating storm troopers & imperial slavers to death with their own appendages. "Ewoks solved the problem nicely", I believe was the quote.


RE: Star Wars is dead
By JediJeb on 10/31/2012 9:17:43 PM , Rating: 2
Around that time it was also rumored that the Ewoks were substituted for Wookies because the logistics of making so many Wookie costumes and maintaining them would have been a nightmare since it would have been done without much CGI back then. I imagine it was also easier to find an army of actors less than 4 foot tall versus finding an army of actors at near 7 foot tall :)


RE: Star Wars is dead
By BillyBatson on 11/6/2012 11:15:37 AM , Rating: 2
They were incredibly cheesy and kiddie aeven when I was a kid and are just plain boring and annoying now that I'm older. Do you also remember the ewok Tv specials that came out after the movie? George Lucas was quick to make a bad thing worse even back then.


No Episode 7
By Chosonman on 10/31/2012 10:02:45 AM , Rating: 3
They should end the story at the defeat of the Empire and revisit the Old Republic Story line. The "New Hope" story line is essentially dead since the Empire has been destroyed. SWTOR is a much more interesting storyline at this point with hundreds of Jedi and Sith battling for control of the Galaxy. After Return of the Jedi, Luke is essentially the only Jedi left in the Galaxy, I can only imagine a slow a boring build up to another cataclysmic event such as another takeover of the galaxy by some evil power.... Boring.




RE: No Episode 7
By AssSpelunker on 10/31/2012 10:05:28 AM , Rating: 2
I'd love to see an adaptation of the story line in the Old Republic video game. It would have a cult following if they pulled it off, but I doubt it would have the mainstream or box office appeal of the others.


RE: No Episode 7
By toffty on 10/31/2012 1:55:24 PM , Rating: 2
You should really read the Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn and the X-Wing series. After that all of the other 4+ ABY books. The expanded Star Wars universe is amazing in its depth. The Empire was only the start.


RE: No Episode 7
By ComputerJuice on 10/31/2012 4:15:32 PM , Rating: 2
Not to mention that the entire SW universe & cannon is an illustration of history repeating.


RE: No Episode 7
By JediJeb on 10/31/2012 9:28:27 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I can only imagine a slow a boring build up to another cataclysmic event such as another takeover of the galaxy by some evil power.... Boring.


You haven't read much of the story past ROTJ have you?

The struggle to fend off the last of the Empire, the whole alliance between the New Republic and the Smuggler's Alliance, Luke finally learning what the original Jedi were all about and rebuilding the Jedi Order, all are great story lines along with the X-Wing series. I also read just a few years back the book Millennium Falcon which recounts the history of the ship from the shipyard to being flown by Han, Leia and their granddaughter at the time.

As far as basing it on something like the new SWTOR game, there are many fans who would hate the whole movie being nothing but a Jedi on Sith glowbat battle. There is so much more to Star Wars than lightsabers.


STEP 1
By Mitch101 on 10/30/2012 8:07:01 PM , Rating: 2
Step1 - Restore Han Shoots First so there is some balance in the force.

The Star Wars That I Used To Know' - Gotye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJlbPXZEpRE




RE: STEP 1
By Motoman on 10/30/2012 8:51:17 PM , Rating: 2
Lucas is an enormous douchebag for editing the first 3 episodes at all...

Getting him away from the franchise can be nothing but good. Even if Disney populated Episode 7 with nothing but their own cartoon characters, it wouldn't be as bad as Episode 1.


RE: STEP 1
By wempa on 10/31/2012 10:38:31 AM , Rating: 2

Agreed. I don't have a problem with them enhancing backgrounds and such, but the other tweaks like making Greedo shoot first or changing the songs and dances I hated.


RE: STEP 1
By Reclaimer77 on 10/31/2012 1:35:40 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah the visual refreshes are fine. But the other changes like Han shooting in "self defense" and pointlessly having Vader scream "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" in Jedi are inexcusable. In Han's case, it changes the entire character and emotional subtext of the film.


RE: STEP 1
By FITCamaro on 10/30/2012 10:59:43 PM , Rating: 2
I am praying for an original, unaltered but remastered and restored Original Trilogy.

We just have to hope that there wasn't some clause in the sales contract that forbade it.


Finally, the missing episodes :)
By Fritzr on 10/30/2012 8:06:30 PM , Rating: 2
When Star Wars:A New Hope was released, the plans called for 12 books & 9 movies. All the books were written & many more from other authors. The final 3 movies that would take place after the fall of the Empire were canceled when Lucas realized how long it was taking to finish the first series.

That the production of the final trilogy is now planned is excellent news.




By MechanicalTechie on 10/30/2012 8:35:18 PM , Rating: 2
If past history is anything to go by the films will suck more than a 2 dollar hooker!

I shudder to think what a pigs ear Disney will make out of this knowing full well that its target audience will be pre-teens so they can flood the market full of cheap chinese maded figurines and assoicated toys.. i think i'm going to puke!


Mickey Mouse
By Theodore KH on 10/31/2012 5:30:53 AM , Rating: 2
We shall see Mickey Mouse appearing in Star Wars Episod 7!!




RE: Mickey Mouse
By haukionkannel on 10/31/2012 4:58:54 PM , Rating: 2
Most likely... or the Angry birds.... wait... we allready will have them...


Check out the picture
By Dr of crap on 10/31/2012 8:18:23 AM , Rating: 2
Lucas looks REALLY thrilled to be in that picture!

MAYBE that's why he sold.
He's tired of the crap already.
Kind of like the weirdos that dress up and go to the Trek conventions! He's had enough of that already.




RE: Check out the picture
By ComputerJuice on 10/31/2012 4:21:09 PM , Rating: 2
Im sure Lucas goes to Trek conventions... considering he has ZERO to do with Star Trek.


Theme Parks
By AssSpelunker on 10/31/2012 9:56:21 AM , Rating: 2
Curious to see if Disney runs with this in their theme parks. Pod racing at space mountain? Jar jar prancing down main street, usa?

Wouldn't surprise me to see a major initiative here targeted at the under 15 generation of fans who started with ep. 1,2,3 and the clone wars cartoon (and all the merchandise that went with it).




RE: Theme Parks
By JediJeb on 10/31/2012 9:37:47 PM , Rating: 2
Honestly though, how many of us who are fans of the original were not in that same age group back in 1977? I know my parents never understood the original movies and most adults then didn't really like them.


As luke skywalker once said....
By Integral9 on 10/31/2012 10:42:46 AM , Rating: 2
Disney: I am your father...
Luke: NOoooooooooooooo!




By haukionkannel on 10/31/2012 4:57:41 PM , Rating: 2
Indeed... This can be very bad "toy"-driven children movie seguel or New Battlestar Galactica type adult orientated seguel...
Why I am so pessimistic that the first choise is what we get...
NOooooooooooo!


OMG... Do you know what this means?
By Creig on 10/31/2012 8:05:24 AM , Rating: 3
Leia is now another Disney Princess!




We all know
terrible news
By g35fan on 10/30/2012 8:51:15 PM , Rating: 2
Coming in 2015, Ashton Kutcher as "Hans Solo". Book it...




Good riddance
By zlandar on 10/30/2012 9:33:56 PM , Rating: 2
Finally George can stop butchering Star Wars.

The prequels and the last Indiana Jones movie were embarrassingly bad.

Hopefully George still retains the rights to Jar Jar.




Continuity with Expanded Universe?
By Bateluer on 10/30/2012 11:54:00 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder how Disney will treat Eps 7,8,& 9 with the excellent Timothy Zahn or Kevin Anderson novels that took place shortly after the end of Jedi? Hows that canon going to work?




By inperfectdarkness on 10/31/2012 1:27:19 AM , Rating: 2
Hopefully...this means that Lucas can't FUBAR the series any more.




By homeroids on 10/31/2012 2:21:43 AM , Rating: 2
You know, I get all the knocking and cynicism. I get the Lucas bashing. I think ep5 Empire is the standout work in Starwars. I think because Lucas decided to get a director (Irwin Kershner) for Empire, was pure genius. Unfortunately Lucas tried to do too much himself with the prequels - all vastly more complex and more pressured than Ep4 (The only ep of the original trilogy he directed) ever was. He should have got a Director, at least.

I also get the "Disney cynicism" as well. However, there is great potential here with Kathleen Kennedy at the helm, Lucas in the background doing what he does best, making a story and pushing idea's and NOT writing the film script. (oh that cheesy love scene in front of the fire).

I think this arrangement will play to the strengths of the necessary evils (Disney in particular) required to make the sequel trilogy great.

Have some faith people. Believe!!!!!!




i bet ....
By mmarianbv on 10/31/2012 3:19:59 AM , Rating: 2
it will be better than 90% of the 2013-2015 movies.
crap vs originals ? well, sure and obvious.
but what you would expect ?
like games, movies are a lost cause, with way to few gems discovered from time to time.




Star Trek > Star Wars
By BillyBatson on 10/31/2012 3:49:55 AM , Rating: 2
I don't hate Star Wars, well not episode 4 and 5 any way (the 2 Lucas actually didn't write). George Luscas is a talentless hack who had an interesting idea other people made that idea great then he ruined it then ruined it 3 more times and even more with the clone saga cartoons. He's a hack and a sell out we ALWAYS knew since the 80's he was going to allow the making of all 9 originally planned movies.




not sure - but i think this is good
By Bubbacub on 10/31/2012 4:43:16 AM , Rating: 2
i think in lucasfilm there has been a real dearth of people who could stand up to george lucas and tell him that a particular idea is bad.

the star wars prequels reeked of being made by someone surrounded by yes men all crawling over one another to impress george lucas - eventually they started to believe their own BS. a total lack of insight.

given that lucas has already shat on two perfect pieces of cinema (orignal star wars and indianna jones) i don't think disney could make it that much worse.

my only worry is that the corporate clowns in disney will cancel the clone wars cartoon (which is childishly awesome!)




Once again...
By Bonesdad on 10/31/2012 11:22:09 PM , Rating: 2
Lucas shows his revisionist view..."I said I would never do another Star Wars movie, but that didn't mean I wouldn't let someone else do them"

And that photo with the disney characters is just plain embarrassing. Lucas looks so uncomfortable and sad there.




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