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Further tidbits and benchmarks

Continuing on part one, we have further benchmarks and performance updates; as well as ATI and NVIDIA trying to take the first leads.

Firingsquad has published an extensive DX10 benchmark suite based on the DX9/10 game, Lost Planet. The benchmark can be found hereBit-Tech meanwhile went into depth on the effects in DX9 and DX10 modes respectively. I have also found the source to the original Lost Planet benchmarks, which can be found here at PCGamesHardware, however the site is written in German but the benchmarks have the ability to be understood as graphs.

Finally we have our daily brick of salt courtesy of ATI, published here at VR-zone.com:

Tomorrow Nvidia is expected to host new DirectX 10 content on nZone.com in the form of a “Lost Planet” benchmark. Before you begin testing, there are a few points I want to convey about “Lost Planet

“Lost Planet” is an Nvidia-sponsored title, and one that Nvidia has had a chance to look at and optimize their drivers for. The developer has not made us aware of this new benchmark, and as such the ATI Radeon driver team has not had the opportunity explore how the benchmark uses our hardware and optimize in a similar fashion.

Over the next little while AMD will be looking at this, but in the meantime, please note that whatever performance you see will not be reflective of what gamers will experience in the final build of the game.

As seen with the ATI released Call of Juarez benchmarks, NVIDIA released a driver soon after that boosted the G8x series performance significantly in those benchmarks. So the final crown of DX10 performance is as of yet undecided until the drivers from the respective manufacturers mature.


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And when they do mature...
By Rampage on 5/20/2007 8:07:42 PM , Rating: 2
all of these cards will be replaced by newer models. I'm going to stick with my 8800GTX because its the fastest card in todays games.

I'm pretty sure it won't be any slouch in DX10 games either, but I'm not to worried because I'll probably buy the 8900GTX when it comes out as well.




RE: And when they do mature...
By psypher on 5/21/2007 10:48:37 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
but I'm not to worried because I'll probably buy the 8900GTX when it comes out as well.


wow... just the idea of throwing away $4-600 for every new latest and greatest video card is just laughable... the high end market is made for people like you... It shouldn't be called the high end market, it should be called the "suckers with nothing better to do with their money market."

I mean, come on... how often do AMD/ATI and Nvidia come out with new cards? once every 9 months - 1 year? spending $4-600 a year on a minor upgrade in performance is just stupid. I could see if it was a new generation, like a 9800GTX or whatever they are gonna call it, but a step up in the same family when you already have a GTX... what a waste...


RE: And when they do mature...
By porkpie on 5/21/2007 4:34:14 PM , Rating: 2
> "It shouldn't be called the high end market, it should be called the "suckers with nothing better to do with their money market."

What "better things" do you have to spend your money on? Beer and pretzels?

If you're flipping burgers for a living, then such cards are certainly a waste, but a $500 video card is less than a day's work for me. So instead of trashing us early adopters, how about you just keep silent...or better yet, thank us for ensuring the technology eventually becomes cheap enough for you to afford.


RE: And when they do mature...
By psypher on 5/21/2007 5:03:03 PM , Rating: 1
It's less than a days work for me as well... that doesn't mean that i should be frivolous with my money.

and lets see... better things to spend money on... Traveling, nice restaurants, entertaining, nice clothes... i don't know... maybe 10 fps is worth more than a round trip ticket somewhere and a nice meal with my girlfriend somewhere nice... wait, no... it isn't.

Enjoy your pretty video games... some people never really grow up and get their priorities straight...


RE: And when they do mature...
By Nightmare225 on 5/21/2007 6:29:39 PM , Rating: 1
Let me ask you a question, do you have any hobbies?

Who are you to tell him what to do with his money? What if he has a happier life than you, and considers buying video cards an inexpensive hobby? Don't assume that everyone has to be like you...


RE: And when they do mature...
By eppenoire on 5/21/2007 8:42:20 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think there is a problem with his priorities. I spend a fortune on my cars. I don't bling them out or anything, but a carbon fiber intake for a 996 is pretty expensive. Most people around me don't think I waste my money. If he was spending beyond his means to acquire the latest and greatest card, then I would agree his priorities are out of whack, but he enjoys gaming and this card is like a Tubi exhuast for his Ferrari. Some people also justify the expense because they sell their top of the line card for $300-400 when the new latest and greatest comes out. This way they are only spending $100-200 every upgrade.


RE: And when they do mature...
By diskmagnet on 5/22/2007 12:36:13 AM , Rating: 2
Wow arrogance at its finest.
Maybe gaming at high res for months is someone elses equivalent to your "nice meal". I have alot of money invested in my home entertainment. Why? Cause I spend most of my down time with it.
Get some perspective:p


RE: And when they do mature...
By porkpie on 5/22/2007 9:55:07 AM , Rating: 2
Let me get this straight. To you, spending money on high end hardware is 'frivolous'...but buying a $200 designer shirt (which is the same as a $10 shirt except for the little logo on the pocket) isn't? Blowing $500 on a weekend trip or a fancy restaurant meal isn't either?

Sweetcheeks, I got news for you-- they're ALL frivolous. That's why they're fun. Any penny you spend on anything but real estate or other hard investments is money down the toilet. If you enjoy it, that's all that matters. So be a little more mature and stop knocking other peoples hobbies.


RE: And when they do mature...
By Jynx980 on 5/23/2007 9:30:33 AM , Rating: 2
psypher makes a good point. Upgrading to a slightly better model for a premium and little performance gain is a waste, regardless of how much money you make in a fraction of a day(buy a billboard and tell the world why don't ya?) Being an early adopter and upgrading every new model are very different things also.


RE: And when they do mature...
By gradoman on 5/22/2007 12:18:27 AM , Rating: 2
The endless road of upgrades. I hope you give a bit of that money to some charity... If you got that kinda money, at least give it to someone that could actually do something useful with it. Not picking at your hobby, but wow. I just can't understand the point of such a plan.


geeze
By Treckin on 5/20/2007 10:51:37 PM , Rating: 1
lucky you

I have seen no reason to ever get a desktop again...
After buying my first laptop recently, I don't think I could make myself go back... additionally the rate at which performance based laptop hardware is being released, I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Depending on the Sys req's however, I may have to do so for SCII next year...

I used to be an avid overclocker, and ran my Athlon XP barton 2500 faster than any P4, I just couldn't do it again... I take this laptop everywhere!




RE: geeze
By Penth on 5/21/2007 1:29:35 AM , Rating: 2
Different strokes for different folks. I just got a new laptop and I don't prefer it to my desktop at all (except for the obvious portability.) I have 8x the screen real estate on my desktop. A laptop just doesn't cut it as well for web developement.


RE: geeze
By darkpaw on 5/21/2007 8:58:50 AM , Rating: 2
Only problem with laptops is upgradeability. If you can afford a new one every few years thats not a big deal, but with decent gaming laptops costing $1500+ thats not a very likely scenario. It is much easier and cheaper to keep a PC realatively up-to-date.


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