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Dual core is in store, and maybe more

Apple, Inc. (AAPL) made the interesting decision of pushing its standard iPhone launch back from June to September -- a three month delay.  Fans of the Cupertino, California gadget maker did receive some consolation with the release of a CDMA-capable iPhone on Verizon Communications, Inc.'s (VZ) network in February and the release of white iPhones at the end of April. 

However, the delay was also costly for Apple, which had already fallen behind Google Inc.'s rival Android OS in U.S. and worldwide sales.  

But the painful wait may finally almost be over for Apple's remaining fans.  A few months ahead of launch 9 to 5 Mac is reporting that final testing stage iPhone 5 hardware (dubbed the "AP" stage within Apple) is making the rounds.

According to the site's sources, 3G FaceTime on Verizon still isn't a done deal by any means.  If you recall, the iPhone 4 CDMA version was unable to accept video calls using Apple's FaceTime software.  Verizon reportedly was concerned about the software's high data demands.

Even if 3G is agreed upon, it seems extremely unlikely that Verizon customers will get 4G video chat -- a much hoped for feature.  Reportedly, Verizon is also trying to work out issues with its promised over-the-air updates scheme for the iPhone 5.  OTA updates may not begin until Fall 2011. 

The recently released iOS 5.0 SDK revealed two new iPhone hardware versions, the "N94" and "N93".  The N94 reportedly packs a GSM and a CDMA chip.  It also packs the dual-core A5 ARMv7 CPU found in the iPad 2.

It is unclear what the N93 is, but some (including 9 to 5 Mac) suggest that it may be a model destined for the Sprint Nextel Corp. (S) or Deutsche Telekom AG's (DTE) T-Mobile network in the U.S.

Based on the iOS 5.0 SDK it also appears that the rear-facing camera will stay at a resolution 5 megapixels, and not receive the bump to 8.0 megapixels that some Apple fans were hoping for.  We're guessing that won't stop most of those fans from buying iPhone 5s, though.

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iPhone 4S?
By theapparition on 6/13/2011 3:15:03 PM , Rating: 3
Pretty sure it's been reported that the phone due out this year will be called the iPhone 4S. It will be a minor refresh of the existing iPhone 4 with dual core processors, but same camera and screen resolution. No 4G radio.

Next years model will be the iPhone 5, which will change form factors and have 4G.

At least that's what I've read, but then again, who cares? There will be another 100 Android phones to choose from by the time Apple gets it's act together. Maybe they'll grace everyone with a new color?

RE: iPhone 4S?
By AssBall on 6/13/11, Rating: 0
RE: iPhone 4S?
By icanhascpu on 6/13/2011 4:20:15 PM , Rating: 2
At least your name fits your post.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By AssBall on 6/13/2011 9:05:22 PM , Rating: 1
Yours fits your post better.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By das mod on 6/14/2011 3:13:49 PM , Rating: 2
That's what she said...

RE: iPhone 4S?
By koenshaku on 6/16/2011 3:16:55 PM , Rating: 2
Anyway this is more incentive for my next upgrade to be a Nokia with Windows Phone 7 on it..

RE: iPhone 4S?
By Smartless on 6/13/2011 3:30:14 PM , Rating: 2
It's kinda funny how secretive they are about releases. I remember about 20 years ago walking by Intel's research center and their building basically "looked" open to the public. Where as walking by Nike they had 15' high walls with security guards. I wonder who's better at keeping secretes now, Apple or the CIA.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By name99 on 6/13/11, Rating: -1
RE: iPhone 4S?
By invidious on 6/13/2011 10:56:16 PM , Rating: 4
I mean, all they have is pretty much the most successful company in the world
If by pretty much you mean not at all

2010 Fortune rankings
Rank, Company, Revenues($ millions), Profits($ millions)
1 Wal-Mart Stores 408,214 14,335
36 Microsoft 58,437 14,569
38 Dell 52,902 1,433
56 Apple 36,537 5,704

I like my iPhone a lot, but Apple is far far far from the most successful company in the world. Not when it comes to revenue, profits, or market share. Maybe you are the "smartless" one?

RE: iPhone 4S?
By invidious on 6/13/2011 10:58:24 PM , Rating: 2
oh and google, didn't see them at first because they aren't in the top 100

102 Google 23,650.6 6,520.4

RE: iPhone 4S?
By Dark Legion on 6/14/2011 12:32:27 AM , Rating: 2
And yet they still have higher profits than the company that sells overpriced crap. How exactly was Google a good example for your point?

RE: iPhone 4S?
By messele on 6/14/2011 2:19:41 AM , Rating: 2
Because they make money selling your information that you willingly give them for free. That is why their net profit percentage is so high.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By Smilin on 6/14/2011 9:17:50 AM , Rating: 1
Sorry but I love truth more than I hate Apple.

Those are dated numbers sir. Apple has now surpassed Microsoft.

How you manage to call a company unsuccessful by showing their place in the Fortune 100 is beyond me. Your head should implode from doing that.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By Dug on 6/14/2011 1:00:24 PM , Rating: 2
Old numbers. And there's a few more things to consider than that, like cash in the bank (over 51 billion) Total worth over 300 billion. 6 times the worth of Facebook. Only one other company can claim that, and that's Exxon. So yes I would put them as the most successful company in the world as they have also done that in a shorter period of time than any one else. And my numbers are old too. (Back from January).

RE: iPhone 4S?
By Master Kenobi on 6/13/2011 6:24:43 PM , Rating: 2
The CIA.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By Drag0nFire on 6/13/2011 4:07:36 PM , Rating: 2
Hmm... hadn't heard that, but it sounds like a good plan to me.

I'm in the market, and would love to buy an Android phone. But all the new designs are too big/bulky for me. This may be bizarre, but I don't want a 4.3in screen - it won't fit in my pocket!

I must grudgingly admit that Apple seems to have a strong form factor that represents a good balance of usability, size, and battery life. Just wish HTC or Motorola would step up to the plate.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By Omega215D on 6/13/2011 6:59:00 PM , Rating: 2
If you are on Verizon have you seen the Incredible 2 by HTC? To me that is the best in overall compromise (even while lacking in LTE) but I ended up with the Thunderbolt. It's actually not that bulky while living with it.

Motorola should be releasing the Droid 3 soon and it too will lack LTE but will be pretty slim and sleek. Almost all Windows Phone 7 devices fit what you are looking for though.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By TheRequiem on 6/13/2011 4:12:03 PM , Rating: 2
I Don't care, just release it on Sprint, $69 for an iPhone witha $10 smartphone fee = $79, cheapest plan in the country for an iPhone. BRING IT.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By mcnabney on 6/13/2011 5:25:03 PM , Rating: 1
Unprofitable companies with loss-leading price plans can't afford iProducts. So sorry. Not yours.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By TheRequiem on 6/14/2011 2:53:16 AM , Rating: 2
Is that a joke? Because its a bad one. So you mean a company that has one of the greatest turnarounds in modern history for a company its size? Not to mention matching verizon in customer satisfaction index ratings? Also of note, Apple has their iPhone on much lesser carriers throughout the world. Another note, Sprint is about to exploit serious coverage with network vision. Also worthy, you can bet your ass their is no privilege to Apple products as AT&T found out... don't think for a second that Apple doesn't want to add Sprint and its 51 million customers to their portfolio. Supply and demand is the real issue here and they are increasing it.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By icanhascpu on 6/13/11, Rating: 0
RE: iPhone 4S?
By AlterEcho on 6/14/2011 2:08:17 AM , Rating: 4
When I got my Droid, I knew Apple was in trouble. They packed more features into one hardware version than Apple has implemented in their entire update path. If Apple does not pull an 'all out' effort their sales numbers are going to take a serious hit. Apple's days of "minor" hardware updates and calling it a new model, are probably over. Adding bluetooth or autofocus for the camera (I mean really...what brainiac had the idea to implement a camera without autofocus) or finally gracing it with a LED flash...just does not cut it, anymore. And that is one of the reasons I left the iPhone. Apple comes out with a great product, but falls on it's face when it comes time to update the hardware to another model. The majority of their model updates should have been included hardware, instead they piecemeal us to death. While Android has thrown everything, but the kitchen sink, into my phone.
I would love to see Apple come out with a phone product that would make me envious...but in reality, the next model is probably going to be a big disappointment.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By icanhascpu on 6/18/2011 12:47:01 AM , Rating: 2
Apple isnt 'in trouble'. Nor is droid. They are competeing.

Also, gee, who would of thought coming out with a 'product#2' AFTER the fact of another 'product#1' creating a stable marketplace would allow this 'product#2' an easier entry and able to spend more time on features in its first implementations? HMMM

Let apple do all the work then say they suck and glory to droid. Its the DT way.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By Wolfpup on 6/14/2011 9:23:43 AM , Rating: 2
What you're describing wouldn't be a minor update-it would be at worst tied with the 3GS as the largest update the iPhone has gotten since its introduction.

RE: iPhone 4S?
By theapparition on 6/14/2011 10:09:11 AM , Rating: 2
Are you on the drugs?

iPhone 3GS->iPhone4 was a much larger update than iPhone3G-iPhone3GS could ever be.

Make it smaller and lighter
By GatoRat on 6/13/2011 5:34:46 PM , Rating: 2
Make it smaller and lighter and I'll buy. To me, the iPhone is a quarter inch too wide and the iPhone 4 is pretty heavy for a phone. The iPhone 3GS is better, but still awkward for one hand use.

The SIM card slot is a joke. iTunes is worse. The program is like a virus and never seems to do what you want it to do. Having to enter a credit card number is unbelievable to me.

I'm hoping Android, Microsoft and HP can step it up with their operating systems.

RE: Make it smaller and lighter
By name99 on 6/13/11, Rating: -1
RE: Make it smaller and lighter
By raskren on 6/13/2011 6:28:13 PM , Rating: 1

The majority of telcos world wide use the GSM protocol and a SIM card. How is that a joke? Do you think Apple "invented" SIM cards?

You don't have to enter a credit card to setup an iTunes account ( ) (but if you have a cell phone, don't you have a debit or credit card?) and the last time you'll ever have to use iTunes on your computer is when you install iOS5.

RE: Make it smaller and lighter
By Solandri on 6/13/2011 6:47:40 PM , Rating: 2
The majority of telcos world wide use the GSM protocol and a SIM card. How is that a joke? Do you think Apple "invented" SIM cards?

Sadly, all the carriers in the U.S. lock their phones, eliminating much of the usefulness of the SIM card. Europe's GSM service is phone-agnostic - you can pop your SIM card in any phone and continue using your service.

US GSM essentially limits your SIM flexibility to just your carrier's phones by locking all phones to the carrier's service. Even if you go abroad, you can't just pop in a local SIM card to get local phone service with your AT&T iPhone. You're limited to AT&T's international service (expen$ive); or have to rent a local phone + SIM card (same thing as not having a SIM card in your regular phone).

A friend gave his 3-year old iPhone to another friend from Germany, who took it home and found out it wouldn't work with any of the SIM cards there. He asked me to try to figure out how to unlock it. AT&T adamantly refuses to unlock it even though the first friend paid for it and used it with their service for the full 3 year contract.

(The tradeoff being that you have to pay full price for the phone in Europe. In the US you can get the original purchase price reduced by subsidizing it with a multi-year contract. The locking is ostensibly to enforce the contract and subsidy, but none of the carriers will unlock your phone after your contract expires and they've been paid in full for the original phone purchase.)

RE: Make it smaller and lighter
By Omega215D on 6/13/2011 7:02:32 PM , Rating: 2
If you've been a Verizon customer for a while and are in good standing credit wise then they'll unlock the phone for you (if you have a world phone) and you are free to use prepaid SIM cards from other countries.

I've done this for my Storm before, and thought about getting the Incredible 2 for this purpose but found myself rarely leaving the country. In which case it's cheaper to get a second phone abroad if traveling to Asia.

RE: Make it smaller and lighter
By Fritzr on 6/15/2011 4:18:21 PM , Rating: 2
Sadly, all the carriers in the U.S. lock their phones, eliminating much of the usefulness of the SIM card. Europe's GSM service is phone-agnostic - you can pop your SIM card in any phone and continue using your service.

US GSM essentially limits your SIM flexibility to just your carrier's phones by locking all phones to the carrier's service. Even if you go abroad, you can't just pop in a local SIM card to get local phone service with your AT&T iPhone. You're limited to AT&T's international service (expen$ive); or have to rent a local phone + SIM card (same thing as not having a SIM card in your regular phone).

This will likely come as a real shock to you, but almost all GSM phones can be unlocked. Most Nokia and many others can even be unlocked free of charge by clicking a link in your web browser & for those that you need to buy the service, it is mostly under $25

Also in addition to the AT&T/Verizon branded iPhone+contract you can buy an unlocked iPhone without contract for use on any network worldwide that uses GSM

The last hurdle you will have to clear is that iPhone uses a microSIM which is still uncommon. The fix for this problem is a SIM converter that can be purchased on eBay for $7-$10 and a few adapters that will allow the use of your newly created microSIM in devices that use a full sized SIM card.

Unlocked phones work just fine with US SIMs ... 'activation' is only required if you feel the need to follow the nice salesman's orders.
A good bit of FUD in your comments, so I am guessing you are either anti-Apple or know very little about GSM phones in general and haven't bothered to do a simple Google search for the recent news items announcing the current availability of unlocked, no contract iPhones for use on ANY GSM the unlocked iPhone is not available from AT&T, but it is still usable with an AT&T microSIM :)

I always purchase an unlocked handset or have it unlocked after activation. As an aside, if you have an unlocked handset, do NOT allow the nice salesman to 'activate' it for you. That is how providers refer to the process of locking your handset to their network.

Tracfone products are an exception. They use a proprietary Tracfone/Straight Talk firmware that is required for use of their service and only those handsets that are not proprietary Tracfone designs can be unlocked by flashing them with a non-Tracfone compatible firmware.

By bernardl on 6/13/2011 10:21:37 PM , Rating: 3
"Apple's remaining fans"... can we get some journalism instead of this continous crap from you Mr. Mick.


RE: Shameful
By Dark Legion on 6/14/2011 12:43:05 AM , Rating: 2
Haven't been here long? Many have tried before you, but no it does not end.

RE: Shameful
By icanhascpu on 6/18/2011 12:42:47 AM , Rating: 3
Agree. This is starting to look more like The Onion.

But will have it have. . .
By anon3803 on 6/13/2011 3:36:31 PM , Rating: 2
But will it have the bigger geebees?!?

In all seriousness I think this could be the start of a slow decline for the iphone. If the new phone in September doesn't have 4G, there will be dozens of Android, WebOS and WP7 phones with 4G by the time the next iphone comes out June of next year. I know many, many folks will still buy Apple because it's Apple, but the iphone seems to be losing out in having the latest most cutting edge features lately. Some features only the tech savvy will care about, but 4G has been hyped so much, I think it could be a factor for the average consumer.

RE: But will have it have. . .
By tekzor on 6/13/2011 6:44:24 PM , Rating: 2
I total agree with you. For apple not to release a iphone that is at least close to what android if offering is a big mistake.
Android will keep gaining momentum at the cost of apple's shares imo. I personally will stay on the android bandwagon if the iphone can't keep up. 4G LTE is a pretty big deal for me.

By Raiders12 on 6/13/2011 9:55:48 PM , Rating: 2
I admire the Iphone4 as a capable and well put together smartphone. Now, what I hate is how everyone automatically praises it as the end all be all, without realizing there are many more capable and powerful phones out there. It's not the ultimate phone many claim it to be, my friend broke the back glass rather easily, and now has a beautifully shattered backing. Well constructed? Also the 5MP camera does take better photos than some 8MP shooters, but once again there is better out there. And many will say "it comes down to preference!", well good for them, but I don't understand the angst against more capable Android phones.

RE: Typical
By Miggleness on 6/14/2011 10:30:18 AM , Rating: 2
That's the question, what is the "more capable andriod"?

While the andriod phones are great, there's always something about them that gives the Iphone4 the edge. I've been looking for an andriod phone now and am really frustrated with the available products. The LG Optimus 2X looked awesome but the battery life is terrible and it gets random reboots.

I've been hearing good things about the SGS2 but it's too damn expensive! I bet the iphone5 would be cheaper.

Yo Dawg...
By Devilpapaya on 6/13/2011 3:56:17 PM , Rating: 3
I heard you like details, so we released some details on your details so you can get detailed details.

Is it really that unusual?
By 91TTZ on 6/13/2011 3:06:09 PM , Rating: 2
Apple is moving the release date of its product from June to the back to school/Christmas buying season. Is that surprising? There's more money in that schedule.

By Richard Yarrell...Evo 3d man on 6/14/2011 1:13:39 AM , Rating: 2
If and when this iPhone appears on my favoriye carrier from a business standpoint great move espically when 4g comes aboard for the iphone. Myself I will be purchasing my Evo 3d 10days from now and continuing on with the newest member to the Evo brand on sprint. I have no use or desire to ever use or need any iphone android/htc/sprint will be my desire.

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