Sources: Raven Aerostar, WSJ
quote: dirt[y] Mexican
quote: I'm pretty unpopular with my viewpoint but here goes...
quote: We all immigrated unless you are a native American. Some will argue, "but, we all immigrated legally," and this would be correct. Most of us did. The majority came through New York and were processed through the system like everyone else.
quote: But, what I do know, is many of them bust their tails like any other American trying to make a better life for themselves.
quote: I guess, but doesn't "trying to make a better life" include going through the formality of getting U.S. citizenship, opening up bank accounts/credit cards (and not only paying for things with cash) to build credit (to qualify for a car loan or mortgage), becoming fluent in English, and pushing yourself academically & professionally up the career ladder to provide more for your children?
quote: This is the amnesty argument: We can't get rid of them so let's let them all stay and legalize it. This is an incentive that encourages illegal immigration.
quote: Amnesty is never a one time thing. The US will get a flood of illegal immigrants when word gets out that it's coming.
quote: Why not reduce the dollars we spend overseas and spend some getting Mexico in line since it impacts the US?
quote: Whole cities are routinely massacred in Mexico. It's horrifying.
quote: This is why you don't announce it prior to passing. You just do it.
quote: Now my friend's new wife is attempting to set me up with her many single friends from abroad but it's not gonna' happen as I fancy American girls!
quote: So when I read things like today with Jan Brewer denying younger immigrants public things like driver's licenses just because they've taken the step to become documented, I have to finally stand up and say enough is enough!
quote: But, I don't loathe them. Not at all.
quote: but all of them are highly intelligent and have worked hard in life. So have all the Mexicans I've met.
quote: Your post is just one big emotional mush-fest. I'm not falling for that crap, you'll have to do a lot better than that to convince me our borders should just be wide open.
quote: Dude if an illegal can get a photo ID, that means he can now vote. Hello? You want non-citizens being able to drive...wow, that's just brilliant.
quote: Do you agree that this is a nation of laws and we should abide by them and enforce them? I'm sick of all this Jan Brewer hate, it's ridiculous.
quote: It's not about hate, or racism. You're just buying into the hype.
quote: Unless you live in Arizona and pay taxes there, you frankly have no right to tell them they should ignore their problems because you said so.
quote: Or does equality not mean anything to you?
quote: Umm, you do know you have to be a legal citizen to vote, right? (I know you do)
quote: I thought you kept up on this stuff? With a drivers license number, and the stupidly easy to get "temporary" Social Security numbers given out to illegals, they can now "legally" vote.
quote: Jan is doing what our politicians swear an oath to defend, the Constitution. Those visas are illegal. Amnesty is illegal. The "Dream Act" is illegal. And States are supposed to have sovereign rights damnit.
quote: You know there's only a finite number of people this country can support.
quote: We cannot allow a President to executive order his way to immigration "reform".
quote: This is why I'm for requiring people provide either a copy of their birth certificate or certificate of naturalization (both of which can be cross-referenced with government held databases) in order to register to vote.
quote: Well, yes, I totally agree States are supposed to have sovereign rights. However, when immigration is concerned, I do have to point out it is a touchy subject. The Federal Government is supposed to handle interstate issues, States intrastate.
quote: I dislike Obama quite a bit--but, he, like Bush before him, realized some form of immigration reform was needed. See above for how it should be divided.
quote: I know I sound angry and ranting, and I'm sorry.
quote: I disagree with both. We need enforcement, whatever the costs, whatever it takes. If we need to fully militarize our southern border, I'm all for it. If we need to build a Berlin wall here, so be it.
quote: He didn't just do it anyway when Amnesty for Illegals was shot down, he gave the people their say.
quote: This sort of thing seems like it should be right up your alley. Cut spending, cut federal programs, cut federal laws, etc.
quote: And once pot is legal and the benefits to it being legal are understood, the push to make all narcotics legal will soon follow
quote: all the idiots who lack self-control will OD within the first 6 months, and the gene-pool will naturally chlorinate itself.
quote: But perhaps the best benefit of all is that all the idiots who lack self-control will OD within the first 6 months, and the gene-pool will naturally chlorinate itself.
quote: I don't think people really think it through about what it would be like if it was legalized. I mean what it would REALLY be like.