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Internet Demonoid.com Shut Down by CRIA
Chris Peredun - November 9, 2007 11:26 AM
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Canadian-hosted torrent site is the next to fall in a series of takedowns

The world-wide crackdown on torrent sites has brought down another major torrent hub. After being forced to close its doors to Canadian users in September due to pressure from the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA), Demonoid.com survived for only slightly more than a month before being having forced offline entirely today.

The previously bustling homepage has been replaced by a single line of text; bereft of much in the way of details, but leaving little doubt as to the fate of the website:

The CRIA threatened the company renting the servers to us, and because of this it is not possible to keep the site online. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your understanding.

The Demonoid tracker and website outage in September was explained as a server rebuild.  With the CRIA now going after the hosts in question, it is unlikely that Demonoid will find a new host within Canada willing to defend themselves.

"Upstream takedown," as its dubbed, is a page right from the U.S. Digital Millenium Copyright Act takedown procedure. 

After the Interpol takedown of the UK-based site OiNK on October 23rd, many OiNK users were warned that "a criminal investigation" would continue into the site and its users.

No such warning has been posted yet. It may be that Demonoid did not store any information, that the CRIA may have opted to simply remove the site rather than attempt to prosecute the end-users or that it may be a waiting game to determine if the operators will attempt to bring their site back online.

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Not really a surprise....
By ajira99 on 11/9/2007 12:22:34 PM , Rating: 5
However, I wish that the government would apply the same zeal to healthcare, border security and anti-terrorism as they do to copyright protection.




RE: Not really a surprise....
By ninjit on 11/9/2007 12:56:03 PM , Rating: 5
Is border-security a problem in Canada?
All those damn narwhals stealing your fish and your women...


RE: Not really a surprise....
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 1:20:04 PM , Rating: 2
Haha, no, it's those pesky American's that someone keeps letting in ;)


RE: Not really a surprise....
By Ringold on 11/9/07, Rating: 0
RE: Not really a surprise....
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 4:20:02 PM , Rating: 2
1.) You say you have no power to stop terrorists at our border.
2.) 6 years later, we've made no progress....and yet, there's been no terrorist attacks in the U.S. from Canada? Hmmmmmmmm....


RE: Not really a surprise....
By Ringold on 11/9/2007 4:33:52 PM , Rating: 2
We don't have any such power.

1) If we stopped them at border crossings, what's to stop them from crossing anywhere else across the thousands of miles of open land? My understand is none of it is actively monitored. A few days camping trip and hello Colorado!

2) Do you think they're reporting all the plots they've foiled or people they're tracking? The 9/11 crew was here for quite a long time before trying anything. Given the number of plots we do know that have been foiled,not just here but throughout Europe as well, to think they've just given up simply because they havent been successful smacks of Chamberlain like thinking.


RE: Not really a surprise....
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 4:40:03 PM , Rating: 2
I never said they've given up, all I've insinuated was that according to you, Canada's immigration security policies are still unchanged since 9/11, and therefore presents a danger to the U.S. in the form of terrorist attacks.

And then I stated how there have been no terrorist attacks in the U.S. or in Canada in those 6 years. "Foiled plots"? We've had one big one, and that was the terrorist cell in Toronto that involved like 13 people, of which a few have already been let go for not being involved, or if so, they played marginal roles.

All I'm saying is that if it were so easy to get into Canada and cross the border around the great lakes to blow up half of New York city, I wonder why no one hasn't done it yet? Or been caught trying it?


RE: Not really a surprise....
By Ringold on 11/9/2007 4:56:14 PM , Rating: 3
If you were a terrorist, and wanted to enter the US, would cross the US-Mexico border, which gets harder by the day?

Or would you cross this virgin place:

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/story.html?id=2... (That's insane)
http://www.adl.org/Terror/tu/tu_0401_canada.asp (First paragraph says it all)

http://hogtownfront.blogspot.com/2006/06/canadian-... (Thats got a solid collection of links)

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.htm... (Gangs are making it in, but terrorists, no?)

http://www.isranet.org/DataBank/canada_terrorism.h... (review of a relevant book)

Again, just because it hasn't already happened doesn't mean it can't or isn't in motion. Fooling people such as yourself in a sense of security is exactly why this movement has been slow and methodical over what,two or three decades now? It wasn't exactly a rapid succession from African embassy bombings, to the USS Cole, to the WTC.


RE: Not really a surprise....
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 5:25:57 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with you about Sikh terrorists finding asylum here (I can't believe the Air India inquiry found those guys not guilty :S).

I agree that it can and probably will happen down the line...but by proving that the Canadian immigration system is so insecure, you're actually eroding your own position. If 90% of all people from Afghanistan and Pakistan can get in unscreened, then what's stopping them currently? Why haven't they moved yet? The numbers are so outrageous concerning how few people actually get screened that there is essentially no stopping someone from just walking in and blowing something up, YET IT HASN'T HAPPENED. Why would we turn away 30,000 people a year who may or may not be being tortured or persecuted in their own countries just to stop one terrorist attack that MAY happen, but HASN'T in the course of 6 years???


RE: Not really a surprise....
By bangmal on 11/10/2007 12:50:15 PM , Rating: 2
You are a typical stupid american only good at blame shifting and finger pointing.

How about stop killing , looting and raping around the world? The best way to prevent terroists is to be nice.


RE: Not really a surprise....
By kontorotsui on 11/12/2007 11:21:31 AM , Rating: 2
Being nice with Hitler would have helped?


RE: Not really a surprise....
By Adonlude on 11/13/2007 7:21:28 PM , Rating: 2
Give us back our Americans and please take all our Mexicans!


RE: Not really a surprise....
By JonnyDough on 11/10/2007 6:25:45 AM , Rating: 2
Can you please rate the above two posts up to a "6." If anyone else agrees with me on that, please feel free to rank THIS post up. Thanks.


RE: Not really a surprise....
By aos007 on 11/9/2007 2:15:45 PM , Rating: 3
Border security? Like having border agents delaying shoppers returning from US on purpose for "not contributing to Canadian economy" is not giving them enough power already (read on CBC)? They are already running arrogant and unchecked, last thing we need is more "border security". Likewise with "anti-terrorism". I'm more afraid of the fresh cops that taser sick people left and right leaving trails of death than some potential terrorist who is willing to die for their cause and will find a way to kill you no matter what anyway.


RE: Not really a surprise....
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 3:59:10 PM , Rating: 3
Agree'd, I am not a fan of giving up liberties to save peoples lives. We all gotta die sometime, and if that happens to be me who dies in an explosion in the middle of an outdoor cafe, then so be it.

The whole torture thing in the U.S. is getting out of hand as well and I can see Canada stumbling down the same foolish path with Harper leading us. I don't want much TV these days, but is the media actually calling Bush on the torture thing much these days? Like pointing out that if he was doing these things to American citizen's that he'd be impeached on the spot and thrown out of office? And that if you can't do it to American citizen's, then why do "human rights" (notice how it's not "American rights") not apply to the rest of humanity?


RE: Not really a surprise....
By Ringold on 11/9/2007 4:15:44 PM , Rating: 2
I don't see how border security, or having to show a valid license as proof of citizenship on election day (a current issue in the US), is an infringement of liberties. People at the border either have a right to enter or they do not. That would be protecting your liberties from dilution, er, so to speak.

The OP didn't say "I wish our governments would crack down and listen to all our phone calls!"


RE: Not really a surprise....
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 4:21:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Likewise with "anti-terrorism". I'm more afraid of the fresh cops that taser sick people left and right leaving trails of death than some potential terrorist who is willing to die for their cause and will find a way to kill you no matter what anyway.


That's all I was referring to. Showing valid ID at the border makes sense, and requiring passports also makes sense. I'm referring to the infringement of other civil liberties rather than border security bullying.


RE: Not really a surprise....
By Ringold on 11/9/2007 4:37:02 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, I took that cops tasering people thing as some sort of humor or exaggeration.

We've had some taser-happy cops here, but thus far is mostly been more amusing then anything. I didn't see the specter of Big Brother there.

That guy at the University of Florida was begging for it..

Better than the 90s and previous decades. They just used to beat the crap out of you then. :P


RE: Not really a surprise....
By barjebus on 11/9/2007 4:42:41 PM , Rating: 1
It was humor, but people do lose eyes, or die once in awhile as well from tasers. Has that happened from terrorists in North America? Not since 9/11....