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Linux enthusiasts now know which Dell products will ship with the Ubuntu OS

Dell today officially launched three consumer products with the Ubuntu Linux 7.04 operating system.  The XPS 410n, Dimension E520 desktops and Inspiron E1505n notebook are now available from the Dell web site.  The new products give customers three different operating system options when purchasing a new product -- a system with Microsoft Windows, a machine with no OS, or a machine pre-installed with Ubuntu Linux.

"To the worldwide Linux community, I wanted to thank you for all your support," said Lionel Menchaca, Dell Digital Media Manager.

The Inspiron E1505n notebook has a starting price of $599, while the two desktops start from $599 and $849.

"The interest and enthusiasm from customers who challenged us to deliver a consumer Linux solution has been met with a team of dedicated professionals within Dell and Canoncial," said Neil Hand, Vice President of Consumer Product Group.

Dell's systems are shipping with default Ubuntu software installed, which has been properly configured for the Linux operating system.

While hardware support will be handled by Dell, the Linux section of the Dell Community Forum is taking care of all software and Linux issues.  Canonical Ltd. is offering service upgrades on the official Ubuntu web site.

Using the Dell IdeaStorm web site, more than 30,000 users requested Linux on future Dell products.  Dell first committed to the Linux operating system in late March, with the Ubuntu, Dell partnership announced in the beginning of May.


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Now the REAL battle begins!
By shecknoscopy on 5/25/07, Rating: 0
RE: Now the REAL battle begins!
By retrospooty on 5/25/2007 10:50:08 AM , Rating: 5
I read your entire post and all I can think to say is ... Huh?


RE: Now the REAL battle begins!
By shecknoscopy on 5/25/2007 11:17:44 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry 'bout that; they can't all be golden. :) I think I was trying to portend the doom that might ensue from widespread Linux distribution. Obviously, once my Grandma can buy a Linux-box from Dell, we're steps away from *real* market penetration of the OS(s).

Now, this is not to say that I think it's a bad thing at all (quite the opposite), but I'm imagining the masses of semi-to-non tech literate - though believing themselves to be infallibly well-versed - duking it out over their rigs' various minutia. Really, I think I was going for the observation that pretty much any time there's an opportunity to use competing products, there's the a vaccuum that will be filled with flame-war spewing fanboys.

Alas, I tried to do too much, and failed; it's not comedy if it needs to be explained. Well, it's either not comedy, or it's Swedish comedy. Mea culpa, DailyTech. Mea Culpa.

Oh, also, I wouldn't touch RedHat if your momma' wore it to bed.

-Sheq


RE: Now the REAL battle begins!
By Lord 666 on 5/25/2007 12:56:14 PM , Rating: 4
No, once Grandma or even mom and dad buy a Linux PC, I am changing my phone number. I'm even hesitant to "deploy" Vista at any of those locations.


By murphyslabrat on 5/31/2007 12:56:08 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, I thought that was f***ing hilarious!


RE: Now the REAL battle begins!
By Lord 666 on 5/25/2007 12:53:33 PM , Rating: 2
Who won the pre-build vs. Home Brew?

What about Miller vs. Miller Light? Maybe your not old enough to drink or even remember that question.


Good, but not for me.
By danskmacabre on 5/25/2007 2:07:51 AM , Rating: 2
Good news, but I still wouldn't buy a Dell.
I use Ubuntu at home, but I perfer to install it myself and the PC I run it on is an older one which runs fine.




RE: Good, but not for me.
By kelmon on 5/25/2007 2:28:07 AM , Rating: 2
Not sure if this is the point of your comment or not but all Dell computers that I have used at work and at homes, both desktops and laptops, have been terrible computers, at least when combined with Windows 2000/XP and therefore I would never consider them as a manufacturer. It's good to see choice in OS coming but I'd like to see that choice expanding across manufacturers/resellers and hope that Dell isn't the end of this.


RE: Good, but not for me.
By danskmacabre on 5/25/2007 3:29:05 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, The low quality of Dell PCs is the main reason I wouldn't buy one, although they are very cheap, but for a good reason.


RE: Good, but not for me.
By Samus on 5/25/2007 2:52:19 PM , Rating: 2
low quality compared to what? HP/Compaq, eMachines/Gateway, Toshiba, Sony?

Right... I'm right there with you...not.

The ONLY OEM PC's I'd even consider over Dell for my clients who need reliability, support and low cost of ownership are IBM's, and, well, those are twice as expensive.

I'm glad to see Dell selling guaranteed-compatible Linux PC's. It'll be great for people who want it pre-installed and configured so they can learn/start with Linux.


RE: Good, but not for me.
By bob661 on 5/26/2007 7:19:28 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
The ONLY OEM PC's I'd even consider over Dell for my clients who need reliability, support and low cost of ownership are IBM's, and, well, those are twice as expensive.
Low cost of ownership? Reliability? From a Dell? ROFLMAO!!! Dell is straight crap! We use 8000 of them and they are absolute garbage. Cheap? Hell yes! Cheap to own? Not a chance. Why do we keep buying them? The CIO and the upper IT staff only see warranty (like no one else has that) and price.


RE: Good, but not for me.
By jithvk on 5/25/2007 5:08:27 AM , Rating: 3
i was wondering what would be the prize difference between system with ubuntu installed and the same sys with vista installed. if dell is going to give the full $150 to the customers, then no one will be buying the vista systems any more and if there is no/small difference then what dell is doing is not right..


RE: Good, but not for me.
By Zirconium on 5/25/2007 11:17:01 AM , Rating: 2
The price difference for the base model XPS 410 with Linux is $50 less than for the machine with Vista ($849 vs $899). You aren't really saving much, and there are fewer hardware options presented when configuring the system. It's always been obvious that Dell isn't paying $150 for Vista, and that Microsoft isn't making as much per computer through OEMs, but it makes it up on volume (and that the OEM version of an OS is crippled in that you can't transfer the license to another machine). How much of the savings are passed onto the computer is up for debate: does Windows cost Dell $50? Does Dell incur any costs by going with Ubuntu? Given how many Ubuntu systems Dell is expected to sell, and the costs involved with adding Linux as an option, I don't think that the price difference between the systems is too small.


Comparison
By paydirt on 5/25/2007 8:43:43 AM , Rating: 5
The Ubuntu Dell 520 N is $599.
The Windows Vista Home Premium Dell 520 is $679.
$80 difference.

Vista Home Premium costs $120 for "system builders" and Dell probably gets a sizable volume discount from that.




RE: Comparison
By tpb3470 on 5/25/2007 9:05:27 AM , Rating: 2
Thank you, that was some data that was missing from the article


Dell DOES NOT LINK to this product page
By paydirt on 5/25/2007 8:49:09 AM , Rating: 1
If you go to the Dell website and search for Ubuntu, you will not find the product pages. You also will not find it during navigation if you are going to go buy say... a Dell Dimension. Just through that special website, WHICH THEY DO NOT LINK TO.

Right now, looks more like PR and sating enthusiasts than a legit step forward. M$ probably kept them from linking too!




RE: Dell DOES NOT LINK to this product page
By OxBow on 5/25/2007 9:54:02 AM , Rating: 2
Dell doesn't link to the Direct2Dell reseller, but they do offer the Ubuntu products right on their banner on their home page. All options, right there to chose.

While some people don't care for Dell, I've never had a problem with them. We use Dell exclusively at work and I'm quite happy with this machine. I got Dell laptops for my wife and my son, since their prices/options are right in tune with what they need to do. Can you build or buy a better machine, sure, but Dell provides the same thing Walmart does, a quick source of what I need at better prices than elsewhere. At least with Ubuntu, I'm not locked in to a Vista only machine.


RE: Dell DOES NOT LINK to this product page
By paydirt on 5/25/2007 10:32:58 AM , Rating: 2
Ah, OK, it's a rotating banner, but otherwise if you go to their main page, unless you randomly get Ubuntu, you won't see it.


By mezrah on 5/25/2007 11:10:53 AM , Rating: 2
www.dell.com
select - desktops - home and home office on the bottom
select - desktops - open source pc's from the dropdown at the top


A yawner
By INeedCache on 5/26/2007 9:47:40 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not thinking this will be even a small coup for Dell. Most enthusiasts who would use Linux know better and would not buy a Dell. Others who may buy one because they are cheap will quickly find out that tech support is scanty, at best. Don't misinterpret my remarks, I am not against Linux, I use it myself on one of my computers (though not Ubuntu). I don't think too many novices will be very happy with having to get tech support via a forum on the web. Once they start calling around locally, how many people do you think they will find willing to help them with a computer they didn't buy from them for free? We don't provide any free phone support for Dells, and that won't change with Linux.




RE: A yawner
By Niv KA on 5/28/2007 3:10:50 PM , Rating: 2
Laptops

Not many good options there. Dell is OK, not perfect but OK.


fools
By piroroadkill on 5/25/2007 5:39:37 AM , Rating: 3
Predictable stream of "Dell sucks hurr" comments




...
By Talcite on 5/25/2007 2:01:49 AM , Rating: 2
2 words:

Woo
Hoo




By ramathorn on 5/25/2007 3:43:59 AM , Rating: 2
It's a basic start. Dell handicaps it for selection, marketing, comparison and hardware. Rather than go to a separate page for Ubuntu specifically, I'd like to see it listed under the different flavors of "Operating Systems" while customizing. Also it'd be nice to see OpenOffice mentioned.




Just Wondering...
By frobizzle on 5/25/2007 8:42:37 AM , Rating: 1
So, how good are their Asian support people with Linux?




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