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  (Source: Engadget)

  (Source: Engadget)
Dell revamps its mobile business line with revamped 12.1" and 13.3" notebooks

Dell is once again leaking information on its upcoming mobile products. Earlier this week, DailyTech reported on Dell upcoming Latitude XT2 Tablet PC. This time around, the information is flowing for the new business-oriented Latitude E4200 and E4300 thanks to Engadget.

The new E4200 looks to target the lightest of the ultra-portables on the market with its 12.1" WXGA, LED-backlit display and trim 2.2-pound target weight. The E4200 achieves its low weight by forgoing an optical drive and by using magnesium alloy for the LCD back and base.

In an interesting move for Dell -- and one that shows its support for solid state disks (SSDs) despite recent reports -- the only storage options for the E4200 will be a 32GB or 64GB SSD. Intel's Montevina platform coupled with Ultra-Low Voltage (ULV) processors will be supported along with Intel Turbo Memory 2.0.

When it comes to additional features/functionality, the E4200 aims to please with TPM 1.2, Smart Card reader, VGA output, DisplayPort, 802.11n, Bluetooth 2.1, Ultra-Wideband (UWB), Mobile GPS, GbE, two USB 2.0 ports, eSATA, Firewire, SD/MMC reader, and an ExpressCard/34 expansion slot. A backlit keyboard and fingerprint reader are optional equipment on the E4200.

The next new entry from Dell is the Latitude E4300. The E4300 sports a 13.3", LED-backlit display and integrated graphics. The notebook -- like the aforementioned E4200 -- relies on Intel's new Montevina platform and includes Intel Turbo Memory 2.0.

Unlike the E4200, however, the E4300 will support standard voltage Intel mobile processors and will incorporate either an integrated DVD burner or an integrated Blu-ray drive for optical needs. Traditional 2.5" mobile HDDs or SSDs will be supported with the E4300.

The E4300's list of connectivity options and features mirror those of the E4200, but adds dual pointers (pointing stick + touchpad).

The larger display, support for standard voltage mobile processors and integrated optical drive push the weight of the E4300 to 3-pounds for base systems.

Both the E4200 and E4300 are scheduled to launch in September.



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Nice!
By ksherman on 3/21/2008 11:11:17 AM , Rating: 5
I really like the style of this laptop. Personally, I would take one of these over a MacBook any day. And I am a huge fan of Apple laptops (lovin my MacBook Pro), so its not some kind of "I hate Apple" rant. Kudos to Dell for getting on the design track.




RE: Nice!
By tayhimself on 3/21/2008 11:32:09 AM , Rating: 2
As an owner of a macbook I agree. Dell seems to have finally gotten a laptop design right. Kudos...


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/21/08, Rating: -1
RE: Nice!
By evident on 3/21/2008 11:42:47 AM , Rating: 5
wow, never heard someone so bitter. now go play with your mac at starbucks and act trendy.


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/21/08, Rating: -1
RE: Nice!
By StevoLincolnite on 3/21/2008 12:31:40 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder if he realize is Mac is powered by an Intel Processor... Perhaps Apple is the "sheep" in that department ;)


RE: Nice!
By ImSpartacus on 3/23/2008 4:15:28 PM , Rating: 2
Apple is never a sheep. Even if they are just like everyone else, they'll double their prices and call their machines "better."


RE: Nice!
By JoshuaBuss on 3/21/2008 12:42:26 PM , Rating: 2
what happened to your beloved 17" macbook pro?


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/21/08, Rating: -1
RE: Nice!
By umpahloompah on 3/21/2008 8:28:11 PM , Rating: 1
i am willing to bet that you are a daily visitor to macdailynews.com? that site is full of lulz.


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/21/2008 10:19:01 PM , Rating: 1
Lost your bet :P


RE: Nice!
By jvillaro on 3/22/2008 1:27:59 AM , Rating: 2
Dude, its like... Are you even old enough to drive a car? Chevy, lexus or what not...


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/22/2008 5:27:32 PM , Rating: 1
Dude, its like... Are you even old enough to understand what analogy is?


RE: Nice!
By jvillaro on 3/23/2008 12:12:18 AM , Rating: 2
Oh don't worry, i know what it is. But you just didn't get that I was trying to say that what you wrote looked like something a twelve year old would do.


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/23/2008 3:19:39 AM , Rating: 1
Maybe it's you who has to grow up and understand what Intel Turbo Memory is? Do yourself a favor, read about it, maybe then you will understand better the stuff I'm talking about. People who insist that Intel Turbo Memory is good for their video card are definitely went into the wrong forum here, they should babble on myspace or some other girly site like that.


RE: Nice!
By Hieyeck on 3/23/2008 3:27:27 AM , Rating: 2
oh mah gawd, he's arguing with himself now!


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/23/2008 11:08:42 AM , Rating: 1
jvillaro is arguing with me, not with himself. You too should learn to read.


RE: Nice!
By jvillaro on 3/23/2008 4:04:12 PM , Rating: 2
JAJAJA It's not even worth the trouble... lets just ignore and maybe he'll go away


RE: Nice!
By ImSpartacus on 3/23/2008 4:18:00 PM , Rating: 2
Are you surprised at all?


RE: Nice!
By ImSpartacus on 3/23/2008 4:19:00 PM , Rating: 2
Omg, My comment boxes are floating! Someone help me!


RE: Nice!
By ImSpartacus on 3/23/2008 4:16:56 PM , Rating: 2
Omg this comment bar is getting so narrow. This is crazy. Why do we always start talking about cars when Apple is brought up?


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/23/2008 8:34:31 PM , Rating: 1
'cause some car models like Lexus and Chevy make perfect analogy


RE: Nice!
By kondor999 on 3/25/2008 12:18:22 PM , Rating: 2
Oh be quiet. It's not as if "Turbo memory" slows anything down. Including it doesn't prove Dell is a "sheep" (even if they are).

Plus, Hey...it's Turbo Memory 2.0!


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/25/2008 1:35:05 PM , Rating: 1
Oh shut up yourself. Turbo memory crap sucks money from consumers, and proves PC manufacturers and MS are all sheep sucking it from Intel all the way, gladly swallowing whatever excreta Intel squirts on them, be it turbo memory or vista "capable" chipsets. Plus hey, this is Intel Crap 2.0 - better bigger badder crap, smells twice stronger! :))


RE: Nice!
By Homerboy on 3/21/2008 11:59:38 AM , Rating: 2
the previous ultra-portables from Dell also did not include a optical drive by default. However they had an optional one for nominal costs that you can connect via a special plug (to provide connectivity and power in 1 input). We have several of these at work and they work wonderfully


RE: Nice!
By Flunk on 3/21/2008 12:10:16 PM , Rating: 1
Yes, because Apple invented sub notebooks and the idea of leaving off the optical drives because of space concerns.

I love it how you people come out of the woodwork and claim that Apple invented various things that have been available from other manufacturers for ages. Sony, Toshiba and LG have all had a line of 12inch ultra portables without optical drives for years!

Thanks for proving to us all again that there are still people who love buying into ridiculous hype.

P.S. Your mention of sheep-like fanboys wins most ironic post of the day.


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/21/08, Rating: -1
RE: Nice!
By StevoLincolnite on 3/21/2008 12:34:32 PM , Rating: 2
Fanboy much? I couldn't care less if company's copied "features" and ideas for one another, that sir' creates competition, which also in turn benefits the consumer because:

1) More features for the same price.
2) Price wars!
3) More cool fiddly bits to break off.
4) So people can have silly fanboy wars of PC vs Mac.


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/21/08, Rating: -1
RE: Nice!
By tdawg on 3/21/2008 12:10:42 PM , Rating: 1
I like macbooks, but really, is all this included on a macbook?
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Smart Card reader, VGA output, DisplayPort, 802.11n, Bluetooth 2.1, Ultra-Wideband (UWB), Mobile GPS, GbE, two USB 2.0 ports, eSATA, Firewire, SD/MMC reader, and an ExpressCard/34 expansion slot. A backlit keyboard and fingerprint reader are optional equipment


So why get all bent out of shape about one feature (Intel Turbo Memory) that doesn't hurt the consumer at all. And, if you want to buy a notebook PC, you have to accept what the particular manufacturer wants to throw in. I'll deal with turbo memory if it gets me all the other i/o options in the small and light form factor of the E4300.


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/21/2008 12:34:15 PM , Rating: 2
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one feature (Intel Turbo Memory) that doesn't hurt the consumer at all
It DOES hurt the consumer because consumer is FORCED to pay for USELESS crap. More money to Intel, more useless crap in your computer. Like it when Intel has you in this position, PC fanboys?


RE: Nice!
By StevoLincolnite on 3/21/2008 12:36:00 PM , Rating: 2
Actually they don't - The consumer doesn't really gain or loose anything out of it, because generally they still sell it for the same price, or for cheaper.

I wouldn't complain if they added Hyper Memory, or Turbo cache to my Graphics card, I would still turn it off, but it's still a feature I never had to pay any extra for.


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/21/2008 3:40:21 PM , Rating: 2
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they still sell it for the same price, or for cheaper
You can't prove that Dell ultraportable would not cost less without this useless turbo blah feature, hence I'm not buying this.


RE: Nice!
By Topweasel on 3/21/2008 4:17:43 PM , Rating: 2
Do you even know what turbo memory and Hypermemory, and lightspeed memory are. Didn't think so. You do know that every bottom end video card from ATI and Nvidia have included this tech for almost 2 years. I don't know if the newest Intel integrated Intel card includes it which maybe why it isn't a feature on air but. But for this very reason your not paying extra for it at all its still a standard feature on the most low cost video cards how that adds to higher costs for you i don't know.


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/21/2008 10:04:10 PM , Rating: 2
Do you even know that you know sh1t about your PC hardware? Intel turbo memory crap HAS NO RELATION TO VIDEO CARD AT ALL! Read this, lama, do some self-education please: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_turbo_memory


RE: Nice!
By Aganack1 on 3/21/2008 12:11:39 PM , Rating: 1
Pirks you do realize that the MacBook Air was the first Laptop without an internal optical drive. Dell has offered an ultra light in the 3lbs range for the last 4 years that I know of, all of which had not optical drives. Infact most manufactures of laptops have offered a optical free ultra light for some time. I don't care that you prefer Apple products, but don't rant and be completely off base.


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/21/2008 12:18:27 PM , Rating: 1
I know MacBook Air is not the first without optical drive, but it was a lot of fun watching Wintel fanboys babbling about "Lexus without optical drive", hence my note about lack of optical drive. Not that fanboys are going to ever shut up because not only MacBook Air is without optical drive. If some other Wintel PC maker introduces expensive ultraportable without optical drive - they are silent, but once Apple does it - they immediately start spewing BS in droves.


RE: Nice!
By StevoLincolnite on 3/21/2008 12:38:32 PM , Rating: 2
MacTel is thus the term we should place upon you sir' Mac Fanboy, They both have they're advantages in that Mac's are cool and Hip, While I sit there happily playing Crysis.
Personally I am still using my Acer Aspire 1680, while old (5 years old) does the job fine in that, it stays powered up on the road for a few hours, It can play Oblivion on Medium Quality Settings, and has every single feature I require, why would I want something less that cannot perform up to my expectations when compatibility is concerned?


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/21/08, Rating: 0
RE: Nice!
By umpahloompah on 3/21/2008 8:26:24 PM , Rating: 1
something stinks like a troll....

inferior gaming on a PC? on any platform, you will have several titles that shine, while the vast majority is just pure crap.

"Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks."


RE: Nice!
By StevoLincolnite on 3/22/2008 6:20:44 AM , Rating: 2
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How much does Crysis capable PC cost, let's see - 9800GX2 for $600, some quadcore gamer's CPU from Intel for $999, what else? RAM, HDD, etc - voila, now Mac is DIRT CHEAP compared to your Crysis tuned gaming rig. Wanna maybe save some dough and go for Mac instead of an uberexpensive gaming rig?


Don't be a moron, those system requirements are not a "Must" to ENJOY Crysis, there is no hardware out that can Max the game out at insane resolutions, with AA and AF running Direct X 10 mode with Vista. - Get over it, You can HAPPILY play Crysis on something like a:

Pentium D 3.2ghz / Pentium 2180 @ 2.0ghz
2gb of memory
Radeon X1950
Geforce 7900GT

That system can play Crysis fine on High Quality settings, you could even get away with Very High, if you use the Direct X 10 mod.
Educate yourself some more. (I'm a moderator at Crysis-Online)

Macs, have ALWAYS been over priced, pieces of white plastic crap in comparison to what a "Real" PC is.

And Wintel? I have an AMD+ATI as my main gaming rig, thus wouldn't I be classed as an WinAMD?

I couldn't care about the Halo Franchise, the reasons why I don't own any consoles is simple: All my games, that I -want- to play are on the PC.
Thus I will never own a console, there is no need, considering how flexible the PC is, I can Browse the Internet while watching AMV's or listening to MP3's, then casually fire up a game, send an email, do some programming.

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If you prefer to play inferior PC games, that's your choice. You could have a huge selection of quality xbox games for example for much less money compared to uberexpensive Crysis gaming rig, but you chose to pay a lot for nothing.


Inferior? I wouldn't call that, one thing that the Consoles do not have is: Decades worth of quality games.
It can also: Emulate Console games.

Inferior is really upto personal taste, but I love my Keyboard and mouse, and StarCraft in my opinion is one of the best quality games ever produced, with a very solid multi-player, it's not the most graphical (It better not be, it's 10 years old) but it's certainly one of the most fun in terms of gameplay.

And you are forgetting Crysis again, Crysis is the MOST technologically advanced game currently on the market, yet I do not see those "Macs" you proclaim about running it, nor do I see it on the consoles, so in this case you Phail once again.

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Think about it - a console and a Mac can do everything your gaming rig can do plus play a huge selection of quality games unavailable for PC.


Lets See:
15 years of games - Check.
Nintendo games - Check.
Super Nintendo games - Check.
Nintendo 64 Games - Check.
Game boy Games - Check.
Gameboy colour games - Check.
Gameboy Advanced games - check.
Nintendo DS games - check.
Commodore 64 games - check.
Play Station games - check.
Playstation 2 games - check.
PSP games - check.
Sega Master System games - Check.
Sega Genesis Games - Check.
Sega Saturn games - check.
Sega Dreamcast games - check.
User created Flash games - Check.
User made games full stop - Almost endless - Check.
Mods - Check.

Not to mention many, many, many more systems and games the PC can run that you're "Consoles" and "Macintosh" cannot run.

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Where would you go today, huh? People move to Macs and consoles in droves, it looks like I and you will follow this trend in the future. Resistance is futile, usability and industrial design is a new king! All the raw performance races between hardware manufacturers are in the past, it's all history now, fanboy. Get it now or you'll be pulled in the future kicking and screaming.


You're wrong, the Mac in general is only a very tiny, minuscule unimportant part of the market, PC's are still selling the Mac's a Billion to one (Slightly, overestimated maybe)
Consoles are really are not my thing, I don't enjoy sitting there with a controller in my hand, nor do I like to look like an idiot waving a controller around, I love my Keyboard and mouse, and a machine that I put together myself.

The weird thing is... You are calling me a fanboy, but it seems you are the one in this case, judging by how you have almost every single post rated down.
Get off that high horse, I couldn't care less about the Mac or Consoles, and unless the Mac can run as many games as the PC - I am simply not interested, and until the prices are more comparable to the PC - I am not interested.

So now you can stop trying to force the Crapintosh down everyones necks and actually realise it's the same hardware as the PC, it's just got a cheap plastic covering concealing it.

Seriously, It uses:
Intel Chipset - Check.
Intel CPU - Check.
Intel GPU - Check.
AMD/ATI GPU - Check.
nVidia GPU's - Check.

Heck, I've seen mac's with 3dfx Voodoo graphics cards, and Matrox Graphics cards, so really what is the Mac? It's just a cover, and a half eaten apply showing it's only "Half a system" with a cheap plastic cover, and an Operating system which is not very compatible with the things that are important to -me- and that is my games.


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/22/2008 6:30:05 PM , Rating: 1
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those system requirements are not a "Must" to ENJOY Crysis, there is no hardware out that can Max the game out at insane resolutions, with AA and AF running Direct X 10 mode with Vista
You can also enjoy Crysis on an iMac or MacBook Pro, so it's time to forget "Mac can't play games" fanatical crap.
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Macs, have ALWAYS been over priced, pieces of white plastic crap in comparison to what a "Real" PC is
I posted links to the PC notebooks that have exactly the same specs as MacBook and also cost THE SAME AMOUNT. But you fanatics conveniently forget those links and start all over again as if these notebooks do not exist. You are afraid of looking at PC notebook prices, and you do the right thing, otherwise your firm Wintel beliefs may easily get shattered.
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I have an AMD+ATI as my main gaming rig, thus wouldn't I be classed as an WinAMD?
Nope, since AMD uses Intel x86 ISA it's still rebadged Intel from the point of view of user or software developer. Wintel == WinAMD.
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All my games, that I want to play are on the PC
Of course you only want to play PC games because you never tried great console games like The Darkness. Staying fanatical about PC games saves you but only until you experience stuff like Uncharted, or Halo 3 or The Darkness. Do not try those games, stay away from them, keep your Wintel faith strong.
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it's 10 years old
This is what PC fanatics do these days - play 10 year old games because most of the new cool and fresh stuff is being developed for consoles, like Dead Space for example, or in rare cases it's developed for PC and later ported to consoles (console STALKER and console Crysis are in development already). So yeah, be my guest, enjoy your Starcraft, MDK, Alice, Sacrifice, Messiah, Doom, Wolfenstein 3D and maybe even Digger with all the other great ancient masterpieces, peacefully deceased last century. Console guys at the same time enjoy fresh blood in gaming industry, and Darkness/Uncharted/Dead Space is just the beginning.
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Crysis is the MOST technologically advanced game currently on the market, yet I do not see those "Macs" you proclaim about running it, nor do I see it on the consoles, so in this case you Phail once again
This is where Wintel fanboys do "phail" - they don't understand and refuse to accept that a) iMac will run Crysis easily b) Crysis is already being ported to Xbox 360 and PS3 c) Uncharted already looks better than most Crysis copies running on mainstream PCs with mid-end graphics cards (which are the vast majority of PC population). Stay in your little box, it feels great there, I'm sure :D
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Not to mention many, many, many more systems and games the PC can run
Exactly! THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS TIME! You PC fanboys just proved my words - I said you enjoy games form the last century 'cause fresh stuff is developed mostly for consoles these days, and you just said the same! Like I said before - you're more than welcome, enjoy last century games while console guys grab best of the best, stuff that's being released TODAY.
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the Mac in general is only a very tiny, minuscule unimportant part of the market
Which is constantly growing and slowly replacing PCs everywhere, even in the enterprise. PC looks like that old dinosaur - IBM Mainframe - nobody believed back then that puny PC would replace this dinosaur - and now the time's come for the PC itself. Fresh blood is pouring in, Apple expands rapidly, together with consoles they slowly retire old home and enterprise PCs all over this country.
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I love my Keyboard and mouse, and a machine that I put together myself
Yeah, I and you are old timers, in 20 years we will look like those IBM mainframe guys look today :) Our grandkids won't believe we were playing video games with _keyboards_ :)))
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you have almost every single post rated down
Get real here - do you seriously think that some guy back in 1960s could come up in some public forum (if there were such forums, let's pretend they were, just for the sake of argument) and publicly state that all your big mainframes are a joke since they are going to take a dirty nap and get replaced by those things called PC? And you think this guy would NOT be IMMEDIATELY downrated to minus infinity? Come ooon, maan, think twice before answering :)) Well, you may not know computer history well, in this case let's pretend that I haven't asked you anything, so you can keep your face.
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Get off that high horse, I couldn't care less about the Mac or Consoles, and unless the Mac can run as many games as the PC
Get off that high horse, I couldn't care less about the PC, and unless the PC can run as many mainframe programs as the mainframe... blah blah... I wish you knew history of PC and mainframe as well as I do.
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you can stop trying to force the Crapintosh down everyones necks
So it is actually ME who's forcing Mac market share to constantly grow? Hahahaha :) What a nice compliment, thank you!
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what is the Mac? It's just a cover
And if you think of it Lexus is also just a rebadged Toyota. Why the heck people buy Lexus cars then? Here's some food for thought for ya. Think about an answer and come back, we'll talk more.


RE: Nice!
By StevoLincolnite on 3/23/2008 10:55:43 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
You can also enjoy Crysis on an iMac or MacBook Pro, so it's time to forget "Mac can't play games" fanatical crap.


It cannot run it Natively, thus run it on the MacOS without some form of emulation (Which degrades performance in every case) or without Installing Windows, which to me, ruins the point of buying a Mac.

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I posted links to the PC notebooks that have exactly the same specs as MacBook and also cost THE SAME AMOUNT. But you fanatics conveniently forget those links and start all over again as if these notebooks do not exist. You are afraid of looking at PC notebook prices, and you do the right thing, otherwise your firm Wintel beliefs may easily get shattered.


Alright, I want a Mac with SLI 8800M GTX Cards in it, 4Gb of So-Dimm memory, and an Phenom. - Comon, if they use the same hardware, where is it?
Personally I've looked at prices on the Mac here locally, and I must say it only backs up my claims on how much more expensive it is here in Australia, for a similarly equipped PC. - SO those links... Phail.

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Nope, since AMD uses Intel x86 ISA it's still rebadged Intel from the point of view of user or software developer. Wintel == WinAMD.


I'm surprised you even knew this, I thought you were another incompetent moron that has lived under a rock.

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Of course you only want to play PC games because you never tried great console games like The Darkness. Staying fanatical about PC games saves you but only until you experience stuff like Uncharted, or Halo 3 or The Darkness. Do not try those games, stay away from them, keep your Wintel faith strong.


I have had consoles in the past, but you are not listening to the reason I didn't like them.
So I shall repeat:

- I don't like controllers.
- I don't like swinging a remote around.
- I don't like playing computer games on my T.V.
- I don't like the limitations on consoles, I like to be able to close down a game and then browse the net, or Youtube.

I think you also missed my point on a: PC Emulating Console games.

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This is what PC fanatics do these days - play 10 year old games because most of the new cool and fresh stuff is being developed for consoles, like Dead Space for example, or in rare cases it's developed for PC and later ported to consoles (console STALKER and console Crysis are in development already). So yeah, be my guest, enjoy your Starcraft, MDK, Alice, Sacrifice, Messiah, Doom, Wolfenstein 3D and maybe even Digger with all the other great ancient masterpieces, peacefully deceased last century. Console guys at the same time enjoy fresh blood in gaming industry, and Darkness/Uncharted/Dead Space is just the beginning.


Stereotyping is not something that you should do, it's bad Karma.
Also... Crysis will never be released on the consoles, the Engine WILL be, just not the "Game". (Remember, I'm a moderator on Crysis online, I stay fully aware of all the happenings of Crysis related information).
There is also nothing wrong with a 10 year old Game, I dare you to travel over to Korea, and announce: StarCraft sucks, because it is old. - Thats a National Sport over there. (Since when has a console game held that title for 10 years running?)

Also 10 year old games? Think about it:
Quality, over Quantity, and re-playability

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This is where Wintel fanboys do "phail" - they don't understand and refuse to accept that a) iMac will run Crysis easily b) Crysis is already being ported to Xbox 360 and PS3 c) Uncharted already looks better than most Crysis copies running on mainstream PCs with mid-end graphics cards (which are the vast majority of PC population). Stay in your little box, it feels great there, I'm sure :D


No, this is what you don't understand, a Mac cannot Natively run Crysis, the game is far to demanding, there is no system that can easily handle crysis, maxxed out with AA and AF.
Now for a news headline: The Mac is not an answer to everything PC related, alright?

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Exactly! THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS TIME! You PC fanboys just proved my words - I said you enjoy games form the last century 'cause fresh stuff is developed mostly for consoles these days, and you just said the same! Like I said before - you're more than welcome, enjoy last century games while console guys grab best of the best, stuff that's being released TODAY.


Once again I did not prove you're point, but you also fail to see mine - PC's are not limited to running only one system, everything can be emulated, and thus run on the PC in a matter of time.

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Which is constantly growing and slowly replacing PCs everywhere, even in the enterprise. PC looks like that old dinosaur - IBM Mainframe - nobody believed back then that puny PC would replace this dinosaur - and now the time's come for the PC itself. Fresh blood is pouring in, Apple expands rapidly, together with consoles they slowly retire old home and enterprise PCs all over this country.


Funny, last time I checked PC's still accounted for 99.99999% of the market, with the left overs to the Mac, Hmm things change over night don't they? *Cough*

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Yeah, I and you are old timers, in 20 years we will look like those IBM mainframe guys look today :) Our grandkids won't believe we were playing video games with _keyboards_ :)))


In that time there will probably be something better than the Keyboard and mouse, and until then, I refuse to wave a silly controller in the air.

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Get real here - do you seriously think that some guy back in 1960s could come up in some public forum (if there were such forums, let's pretend they were, just for the sake of argument) and publicly state that all your big mainframes are a joke since they are going to take a dirty nap and get replaced by those things called PC? And you think this guy would NOT be IMMEDIATELY downrated to minus infinity? Come ooon, maan, think twice before answering :)) Well, you may not know computer history well, in this case let's pretend that I haven't asked you anything, so you can keep your face.


No it just means that you are wrong and people disagree with you, you're not that "Cool and special".

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Get off that high horse, I couldn't care less about the PC, and unless the PC can run as many mainframe programs as the mainframe... blah blah... I wish you knew history of PC and mainframe as well as I do.


Obviously you don't because I have actually never even stated anything about a mainframe, thus shoving words in my mouth shan't work.

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So it is actually ME who's forcing Mac market share to constantly grow? Hahahaha :) What a nice compliment, thank you!


Wasn't a compliment, it's more like those annoying phone calls you get occasionally with some person on the other end, trying to sell you a mobile phone.

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And if you think of it Lexus is also just a rebadged Toyota. Why the heck people buy Lexus cars then? Here's some food for thought for ya. Think about an answer and come back, we'll talk more.


I don't have a lexus, I have a Holden Commodore VN SS Group Replica. - And that isn't a very good way to put it, last I checked the lexus weren't exactly selling in droves here...


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/24/2008 3:03:33 AM , Rating: 1
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ruins the point of buying a Mac
No, it doesn't, since you can't get sich a nice 24" monoblock PC as the iMac for the same price with the same hardware anywhere else, iMac is unique even when it runs Windows and Crysis in it.
quote:
I want a Mac with SLI 8800M GTX Cards in it, 4Gb of So-Dimm memory, and an Phenom
SLI is a waste of money, and Mac Pro supports 8-way configuration with 45nm Xeons and 32GB of RAM, your puny Phenom and 4 GB can't even suck compared to that. Phenom is not even a joke compared to multiprocessor Intel Xeon systems. It's just in entirely different league, man. Don't even think about comparing this toy Phenom chip with Mac Pro's hardware.
quote:
how much more expensive it is here in Australia
Yeah, some peripheral countries like Australia, NZ and such get Macs later than the US and for the higher price. You have to live with the fact that the US is the capital of the computer world. Sorry man, can't help ya here.
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for a similarly equipped PC
You can't get PC that's equipped the same as 24" iMac because there are no 24" monoblock PCs in the world besides the iMac. Like I said - no car is like Lexus, you're outta luck if you try to compare Chevy with it just because Chevy also happens to have 4 wheels and an ICE inside. You have to look at the whole picture, not just at the engine and the wheels.
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I thought you were another incompetent moron
You fanatics happened to find a guy who can smash your stupid faith easily, ain't this a surprise for ya Wintel lovers? :P I thoroughly enjoy our conversation, keep it going please.
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I don't like controllers
Then don't use them - connect keyboard and mouse to your console with an adapter like XFPS 360.
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I don't like playing computer games on my TV
Then don't play them on TV - connect console to your monitor :P
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I don't like the limitations on consoles, I like to be able to close down a game and then browse the net, or Youtube
And with a MacBook on your lap you don't even have to quit the game! Just browse or email or IM or do whatever you want while game is running, without even leaving your couch, if you want - see how much more convenient is that compared to your stupid PC switching back and forth between game and other stuff that you have to close and open all the time? How stupid is that sh1t??
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PC Emulating Console games
Oh really? Emulate me The Darkness on PC. You can't? Then wtf are you talking about?? You can't even emulate this game on PC, hahaha :))
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Crysis will never be released on the consoles, the Engine WILL be, just not the "Game". (Remember, I'm a moderator on Crysis online, I stay fully aware of all the happenings of Crysis related information).
Looks like this moderatorial thing totally brainwashed you - are you all moderators there brainwashed like that? 'Cause console Crysis is all over in the news, read this: http://games.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1396/Crysis and this: http://www.xboxic.com/news/2227 - jesus I can't believe DT has such braindead readers like you, man you are SOMETHING!! I though everyone knew this Crysis for Xbox stuff for ages, and now look ma - a guy who lived under a rock for past year or so... jesus h christ...
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last time I checked PC's still accounted for 99.99999% of the market
That's pretty funny stupid australian bullcrap, probably caused by your local computer market - check out this: http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=... <- 99.9999% you say? Are you really suffering life under the rock or what???

And no, I'm not selling you a Mac, I'm just having fun here. Like I said Macs are not for everyone, just like Lexus cars are not for everyone. You australians definitely don't get a lot of both, which is pretty sad, ain't it? :))


RE: Nice!
By StevoLincolnite on 3/25/2008 5:32:51 AM , Rating: 1
Changed that nappy? You're acting a bit shitteh.


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/25/2008 12:15:00 PM , Rating: 1
The last Wintel fanatic is down, no more left. Time to move on :P


RE: Nice!
By StevoLincolnite on 3/29/2008 4:22:05 AM , Rating: 2
No... I just follow this saying "Never argue with idiots, as they bring you down to they're level and beat you with experience".


RE: Nice!
By kondor999 on 3/25/2008 12:25:02 PM , Rating: 2
Inferior PC games? Have you actually *seen* Crysis? It completely blows away *anything* on *any* console (graphically).


RE: Nice!
By Pirks on 3/25/2008 1:27:58 PM , Rating: 1
Have you seen Uncharted? I bet you haven't :P Otherwise you woldn't be so blind.


The Design
By nace186 on 3/21/2008 10:23:27 AM , Rating: 3
I like the design. It looks nice.




RE: The Design
By kibets on 3/21/2008 10:28:10 AM , Rating: 2
Interesting placement of the logo.

Dell is starting something original here. I prefer the logo without the circle around it.


RE: The Design
By Flunk on 3/21/2008 12:11:38 PM , Rating: 2
Actually they stole the placement idea from HP, there is a whole line of HP notebooks with the HP logo right there. Does look good though.


RE: The Design
By ImSpartacus on 3/24/2008 5:48:25 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah the logo looks out of the way, clean, and blank, but it draws your eye to it. good design if you ask me. And overall, the whole thing looks extremely sleek.

I also like the concept of the 4200. small, led backlit screen featuring SSD's exclusively and integrated graphics? not to mention Intel's new low voltage platform? that thing will be a battery life beast.

I might get a 4300 for around the house. it depends if they can get it down to 700-800$. I would also consider a 4200 if the price isn't too high (can't put vista on 32GB, so I would have to use an expensive 64GB SSD).


hate this
By Visual on 3/21/2008 11:12:20 AM , Rating: 2
I really hate getting announcements like this...
A product that won't be around for half a year more, and really not much better than what we already have for several years now.

And my gripe isn't with Dell and this one announcement in particular, more with the industry as a whole. I was hoping for faster progress in this field...

Ok, granted, there are improvements with the new platform - but not nearly enough.
SSDs are still too small and expencive. The new IGP is getting better, but still too slow, even compared to IGPs of ATI/nVidia, let alone real gfx cards. Tablet convertibles are stubbornly not getting any multi-touch displays, and here I was hoping that even non-tablet laptops would soon have them.
It all feels like we're stuck in time, with no progress, for several years now.




RE: hate this
By Deinonych on 3/21/2008 11:36:08 AM , Rating: 2
It's not an announcement, it's a leaked document.


RE: hate this
By aos007 on 3/21/2008 8:03:09 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly. Just another "leak", the first one was smack in the middle of Air launch. Yet the product is still on the engineer's drawing board and is half a year away (eternity in IT) - notice things such as `target weight` - they don`t even know if they`ll be able to achieve that! I really wish they would direct their energy toward actual work and innovation rather than these marketing games. In fact they just lost a customer - I was waiting to make my purchase decision when I heard about the first leak and saw a very nice looking (specs and design wise) laptop. Now, two months later it appears it was just a vaporware, conveniently leaked to try to dissuade people from buying competitor`s products (e.g. Apple or Lenovo).


No Optical Drive?
By rolaxx on 3/21/2008 11:10:29 AM , Rating: 2
How do you install software. I guess a 4gb thumbdrive is included in the package.




RE: No Optical Drive?
By Cullinaire on 3/21/2008 11:28:38 AM , Rating: 2
USB CDROM


By PAPutzback on 3/21/2008 10:02:38 AM , Rating: 2
I can't stand the Toshiba I have with the touchpad as the only option. And no integrated blue-tooth to use a wireless mouse either.

Time for a new laptop I guess.




Why such a long delay?
By Lord 666 on 3/21/2008 10:14:53 AM , Rating: 2
Along with the new tablet, why does Dell have such a far lead time of Sept/Fall for these new devices?




SSD only???
By FingerMeElmo87 on 3/21/2008 10:20:42 AM , Rating: 2
thats not the most intelligent thing in the world. SSDs are still hellishly exspensive and a satandard HDD should come with the base configuration. i understand its all about the money but how many of those 12.1" does dell exspect to sell with such an obviously exspensive price tag? (i know theres no word on price but since it has an SDD then chances are it'll be exspensive)




huh...
By DASQ on 3/21/2008 10:46:41 AM , Rating: 2
Did anyone else think "But that CPU has been out for months!"?

:|




Yaay Pointing Stick!
By Cylee22 on 3/21/2008 12:11:40 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know about anyone else, but in addition to the nice design, I think the fact it also has a pointing stick would be enough to win me over compared to other competing 13" models, assuming the rest of the specs are at least on par. I love the pointing stick over the trackpad!




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