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Dell jumps on SUSE Linux for its enterprise machines

This week Dell Inc. announced that it will join a group created by Microsoft and Novell to support and migrate its existing and new Linux users over to Suse Linux. Currently, Dell is the only major systems provider to be part of the Microsoft and Novell collaboration and Microsoft indicated that it expects more to join the party.

The pact between Microsoft and Novell is to support those who use Windows to work seemlessly with those using Linux and vice versa. Under the partnership, both Microsoft and Novell pledged to develop products and tools to give Windows and Linux better co-operation in the office and enterprise space.

Under the agreement, Dell will purchase SUSE Linux Enterprise Server licenses from Novell. Dell will also launch support services as well as marketing programs to promote the support of SUSE Linux. Dell hopes to also introduce new users to the Suse Linux operating system as well as turn over a new leaf with existing Linux users.

Despite the collaboration between Dell, Microsoft and Novell, Dell last week announced that Ubuntu Linux would be its first officially supported Linux operating system to ship on Dell systems. Ubuntu gained popularity in the last few years due to tight integration of packages, ease of use, flexibility and support.

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Microsoft and Linux
By wannabemedontu on 5/7/2007 8:29:55 AM , Rating: 2
Just doesn't sound right.




RE: Microsoft and Linux
By nayy on 5/7/2007 9:25:07 AM , Rating: 1
Windows is not the only revenue source for Microsoft,
They probably realize that some businesses prefer Linux for stability and security (not because it's free), but there is no reason not to make money from them.
My guess is that will be seeing Linux Versions of some Microsoft corporate software soon.


RE: Microsoft and Linux
By lukasbradley on 5/7/2007 9:49:03 AM , Rating: 3
My business prefers LINUX because it is free.


RE: Microsoft and Linux
By masteraleph on 5/7/2007 11:09:12 AM , Rating: 2
Most don't, since most businesses that use linux are also buying support contracts from Novell/RedHat and therefore are not, in fact, getting linux for free.


RE: Microsoft and Linux
By mindless1 on 5/7/2007 7:10:48 PM , Rating: 3
Depends on what you call "most". The number of small businesses greatly outnumber the large, and may also need less complex solutions. You will tend to find larger businesses have support contracts regardless of OS, so in some cases if we only consider OS cost, Linux is free in that regard, but is only one of several costs eliminated but when a server with per-client license fees, it can be a significant savings.


RE: Microsoft and Linux
By Jack Ripoff on 5/7/2007 10:20:59 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Windows is not the only revenue source for Microsoft

It's probably the major one, though.


RE: Microsoft and Linux
By tdawg on 5/7/2007 2:20:46 PM , Rating: 2
I'm pretty sure Office is the major revenue product, with Windows somewhere behind in second.


RE: Microsoft and Linux
By Jack Ripoff on 5/7/2007 7:08:53 PM , Rating: 2
This surely doesn't make Windows sales less significant (even because you need MS Windows to run MS Office in the first place).


RE: Microsoft and Linux
By mindless1 on 5/7/2007 7:15:52 PM , Rating: 3
While windows sales are certainly significant, MS could not completely ignore that there is a large uptake of Linux in the world and lacking interoperability would mean a sales loss of one kind or another. Ultimately making a product more versatile, compatible, will be the best long term solution to keep the product viable.

We must recognize that a large part of why MS had such great success in the OS arena was that these (were) the early, infancy years of widespread PC and workstation adoption. It is a situation that can only occur once in the history of computing to have the initial implementation, the computer revolution as a technological age.


RE: Microsoft and Linux
By bupkus on 5/7/2007 11:27:40 AM , Rating: 2
Can I hope then that my MS Action Pack Subscription will some day soon include such software... aside my "how to compete against Linux" demonstration cds?


RE: Microsoft and Linux
By Samus on 5/7/2007 2:29:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Just doesn't sound right.


Took the words right out of my mouth. If Microsoft is infact endorsing linux, it can only be to their benifit somehow, financially.

I'm scared to know exactly what they're up too...


RE: Microsoft and Linux
By mars777 on 5/7/2007 10:33:12 PM , Rating: 2
Windows Vista will some day get the pack, WinFS and that is all that could be achieved from the windows NT kernel and from avalon.
It is too complex and lack upgradability.

Their developers said it.

I think that they are preparing ground for a major change in windows later after 2010.
All they will need is a a change in licencing and a .NET framework working on a System5 (unix) kernel.
Linux is not a wrong choice for them - all they have to write in the EULA is:

- cannot be used unless having a support license.

and check for the online support license when booting their OS.

this wouldn't break a GPL license.

Windows could some day be a linux :P


Joines??
By Crusader on 5/7/2007 8:40:01 AM , Rating: 4
You've gotta be kidding me. I get up early in the morning to and yet am still not capable of JOINES.
How about "joins".

This place is horrible for both spelling and grammar (and yes, frequent abuses of the language are annoying. Its not relegated to just Tuan by any means either.

If you can match my 50K salary, I will raise the professionalism of this site in English, as well as provide an Español translation.

DT employees- have yourself a cup of coffee before posting, please.




RE: Joines??
By Crusader on 5/7/2007 8:41:39 AM , Rating: 2
As I notice many flaws in my own post, the author of this article can at least edit his spelling error.

Time for another cup of coffee.


RE: Joines??
By Zirconium on 5/7/2007 9:35:17 AM , Rating: 2
You are probably going to get modded down because your post doesn't actually reference the substance of the article. However, I do agree with you; spelling and grammar in a news site is important. That said, DailyTech is free, so I guess you get what you pay for. Considering that sometimes they post information before other guys (although most of the time it is the other way round), I'd say the reader comes out ahead. I am spending less of my time here and more on other news sources, partially because the articles are poorly written at times.


RE: Joines??
By Crusader on 5/7/2007 9:44:21 PM , Rating: 2
My only response is that we do pay for the site, with our eyes as they cross the ads. Or when we click on them.
Theres many other tech news sites I can visit where I pay the same amount, but I still prefer DTs news.. regardless of the amateur language ability.

Its kinda part of the fun of this site because I'm amazed at the consistency of the errors. Everyone screws up the English language, as its one of the hardest to master in the world. Natives never master it.
But I'd have to try to screw up as much as this site does.
That said, its become half the fun due to the fact that it is so consistent.

It blows away the inq though, that 13 year old testosterone induced site over emphasizing anything and everything is simply unbearable to read. Retarded and juvenile sayings like DAMIT and Windows ME2 ect have caused me to finally quit visiting that hole.
Content of news > Lingual ability. But its still amusing.
I'm not usually a nitpicker because I myself am usually only average at english.


RE: Joines??
By mindless1 on 5/7/2007 7:18:27 PM , Rating: 2
Sometimes, quantity > quality (when it's nitpicking).

If you'd rather the news article didn't exist so the author could spend more time per article on other articles, your opinion might not be shared by all.


RE: Joines??
By KaiserCSS on 5/7/2007 9:55:55 AM , Rating: 2
The funny thing is, Firefox has a built-in spell checker.

IE7 at DT?

I shudder at the thought.


Linux in the mainstream ? Not in this decade.
By silver on 5/7/2007 8:39:04 AM , Rating: 5
Companies like Dell, HP/paq and the rest offset the cost of their systems with ad-ware like AOL, Earthlink, Symantec, McAfee and other residual-returning subscription applications. Without the kickbacks from these companies, the cost of the system is going to increase.
Further, the average user has absolutely no idea what Linux is. Many people would probably try it since they are so frustrated with Vista however it wouldn't take long at all for _ANY_ distro of Linux to fail to meet the consumers needs. I'd give it about 2 hours after the OOBE and they'll be on the phones calling for tech support as they can't get their networked printer to work, their wireless to connect or install Quicken.




By masteraleph on 5/7/2007 11:11:09 AM , Rating: 2
Reread the article. It's talking about linux on servers, not linux on PCs. There is, however, an article about Ubuntu on Dell PCs, but that's separate from this one.


By glitchc on 5/7/2007 11:13:07 AM , Rating: 2
Good point, but off the mark with regards to the article. Enterprise systems from Dell never come with the bloatware found on consumer PCs. This even applies to servers/systems loaded with Windows Server 2003, the only Windows version to be had on such systems.


Certainly Interesting.
By Mitch101 on 5/7/2007 11:47:53 AM , Rating: 2
Well its Certainly Interesting to see Microsoft doing some support for Suse/Novell Linux.

Not sure what percentage Novell makes up anyhow but one thing is for sure that one version of Linux needs to stand out above the rest and be a single source of support from a major corporation. Linux whether their community likes it or not needs to be less fragmented than what it is. While we use Linux for various specific applications what works on RedHat doesnt necessarily work with Debian. Applications or Drivers. At least Microsoft may give Linux the leg up it needs with Novell.

I certainly dont see Microsoft losing or giving away any market share to linux but it would be nice if we could all agree on one distro of linux being the best one to use. Ask 10 different people using Linux and they will all give you different reason for liking a certain distro. Its nice to be different and have that flexibility but its a model that really doesnt work well at a high level. I personally like Debian.

BTW linux is not really Free. Lot of gray area in there. Open Source doesnt translate to free either.

If linux was really free then Apple couldnt charge for it