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Alienware headquarters in Miami, Florida

Alienware's homepage now looks strikingly similar to Dell's
Alienware says it will be unaffected by the acquisition but at the same time seeks to embrace Dell's methodologies

Alienware and Dell have announced an agreement to merge, with Dell buying the Miami company. Alienware has long been a very independent company with a strong focus on highly tuned customer support and customization. Alienware pioneered the custom PC business by doing such things as: customizing the manual in the customer's name; including benchmarks of the system, installing and tweaking drivers, and installing whatever games the customer wanted. Long story short, Alienware gave great individualized attention to its patrons.

We believe that this acquisition will offer our customers the best of both worlds — an Alienware that takes advantage of the world-class business practices and operational efficiencies that have made Dell one of the most respected companies in the world, while preserving the DNA of the Alienware brand and product strategy portfolio.

Alienware says that Dell executives have agreed to let Alienware operate independently, with its own marketing and product strategies. In the above statement however, it's clear that Alienware expects to embrace some of Dell's own strengths, which sit squarely in the realm of low cost, mass production, and offshore support. All of these traits give Dell its strength -- besides its sell direct approach, which Alienware already does.

Surprisingly, Rahul Sood, VoodooPC's president and our resident blogger recently predicted that Dell would buy Alienware in a blog he wrote several weeks ago. It will be interesting to see how Dell corporate will transform Alienware. Nelson Gonzalez, Chief Executive Officer of Alienware has a statement.

Interestingly, Alienware sells PCs based on AMD's processors, but Dell does not.


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WTF?
By Mitul89 on 3/22/2006 9:54:24 PM , Rating: 2
this sucks.. From now on the computers that we know of that are Alienware will be shit... They will have that cheap look that all of the Dell PC's have. Id rather see Alienware independant. The other thing is that Dell will put even more intel processors then AMD processor. And we all know that AMD performs better in gaming applications.




RE: WTF?
By Jedi2155 on 3/22/2006 10:23:55 PM , Rating: 2
Who knows with the conroe coming....


RE: WTF?
By almrow on 3/22/2006 11:08:18 PM , Rating: 2
but also is coming the socket am2 that supports ddr2, and do you think that amd is going to lose to fast against intel? amd is well prepared for the future, they began to win territory against intel.


RE: WTF?
By zsdersw on 3/23/2006 6:44:36 AM , Rating: 2
AM2 and DDR2 don't appear to offer that much. Conroe, when it ships, will also be available with DDR2-800, if not 1066.


RE: WTF?
By Viditor on 3/23/2006 9:09:58 AM , Rating: 2
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AM2 and DDR2 don't appear to offer that much


I've seen this same silly statement many times and from many people...sorry Z, but it is silly. You really don't have any idea what will be shipping or how it will perform yet, just as we have only a "sample" of what Conroe will look like at shipping time.


RE: WTF?
By zsdersw on 3/23/2006 9:22:22 AM , Rating: 2
RE: WTF?
By zsdersw on 3/23/2006 9:26:15 AM , Rating: 2
And since both examples are only "samples".. they have to be regarded the same. The "sample" of Conroe is impressive. The "sample" of AM2 on DDR2-800 is not.


RE: WTF?
By Viditor on 3/23/2006 9:33:58 AM , Rating: 2
I have seen the article before...and if you can show me that the engineering sample they had will be the same as the shipping AM2 chip, I will humbly beg your pardon.
I assume you haven't heard that AMD shipped out engineering samples that were pre-memory controller fix CPUs...they were for mobo makers to test with.
Do you have any indication that this wasn't one of those?
Since the AMD chips weren't hand-picked for reviewing, and the Intel chips were, you're comparing apples and oranges...I think I will stick with my comment. Sorry, mate.


RE: WTF?
By zsdersw on 3/23/2006 9:41:00 AM , Rating: 2
What technical reasons can you provide to prove that AM2 and DDR2-800 on existing chip designs will demonstrate gains that are significantly different than what we're seeing here?

For what reason do you think a socket change and a higher-latency memory will, even if not an engineering sample, improve the situation over existing socket-939 chips?


RE: WTF?
By zsdersw on 3/23/2006 9:52:03 AM , Rating: 2
The basics here are quite simple. What's coming from AMD when Conroe ships are existing chips on a different socket with a higher-latency memory. What's coming from Intel is a new architecture. Do you seriously expect two minor changes from AMD to improve performance over existing socket-939 chips, much less a new architecture from Intel? I'd say the "samples" we currently have of both are perfectly reasonable expectations of what we can expect when both are shipping products.


RE: WTF?
By Viditor on 3/23/2006 10:17:17 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The basics here are quite simple. What's coming from AMD when Conroe ships are existing chips on a different socket with a higher-latency memory

Well, we know that's not true, even from the sample on the Chinese article you posted...
For example, go to page 4 at the bottom, and look at the differences in the size the cache between the S939 chip and the AM2 chip...
So, the answer to your question is (as I said before) neither of us has any clue, and to say otherwise is outright guessing and should be labled as such.


RE: WTF?
By Viditor on 3/23/2006 10:22:47 AM , Rating: 2
BTW, if you look close you'll note that the L2 cache structure is different as well...


RE: WTF?
By zsdersw on 3/23/2006 10:42:15 AM , Rating: 2
What cache sizes are you talking about? Both will have 2x 1MB of L2 cache, from what I'm seeing. Existing S939 chips are available with that.

.. and if you think a different L2 configuration is going to make a significant difference, I want some of what you're smoking.


RE: WTF?
By zsdersw on 3/23/2006 10:43:08 AM , Rating: 2
.. a different L2 cache structure, rather.


RE: WTF?
By Viditor on 3/23/2006 10:49:13 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I want some of what you're smoking

Sadly, it's just Benson & Hedges...

Now take a deep breath and go look again...
1. The cache density has gone up dramatically, which means that it's quite possible that AMD could ship much higher cache chips right off the bat.
2. If you get the translation from the site, you'll note that power has ALSO dropped dramatically...which means that there is more headroom for the clockspeed right off the bat.
3. AMD has already shown that they aren't strictly following their roadmap by the leaked release of the 5000+ on 939, this could also be the reason they have been so vague on their roadmaps.


RE: WTF?
By zsdersw on 3/23/2006 10:55:24 AM , Rating: 2
None of this suggests that AM2 and DDR2-800, on shipping chips, is going to have an impact on performance that's significantly higher than what we've seen from the "sample".


RE: WTF?
By Viditor on 3/23/2006 10:59:24 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
None of this suggests that AM2 and DDR2-800, on shipping chips, is going to have an impact on performance that's significantly higher than what we've seen from the "sample".

What it suggests is that:
1. We really don't know what they will be shipping
2. We don't know what stepping they will be shipping (the sample was stepping 1 of rev F)
3. We don't know how well the 2 will compare

I'm not saying that AMD will be superior to Conroe, I'm saying that neither you nor I know one way or the other...


RE: WTF?
By zsdersw on 3/23/2006 11:11:56 AM , Rating: 2
Of course we don't know for sure, but all I've been saying is that AM2/DDR2-800 on existing chip designs doesn't appear to offer much in the way of improvement over S939 chips of the same speed/specs and nothing you've provided suggests that what we've seen so far about AM2/DDR2-800 and what I've said about it is beyond the realm of reasonable conclusion.


RE: WTF?