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Dell 3008WFP Display  (Source: Dell New Zealand)

Dell 3008WFP Connectivity Options  (Source: Dell New Zealand)
Dell 330WFP DisplayPort equipped LCD hits Dell New Zealand website

Gamers know that the massive 30-inch displays look great while gaming at resolutions of 2560 x 1600, assuming you have the video muscle to get playable frame rates.

There are several competitors in the 30-inch display arena and many of them are gearing up to put DisplayPort interfaces on their latest offerings. Dell New Zealand has a new 30-inch display on its website that offers a plethora of connectivity options.

The 30-inch 2560 x 1600 resolution display has a pair of DVI-D ports, something that Dell's previously available 30-inch display sorely lacked. Other input options include a HDMI port, DisplayPort, analog VGA, composite video, component video and S-video connectors.

The Dell New Zealand site lists the 3008WFP’s response time at 8ms and quotes 178-degree viewing angles. Brightness for the monitor is 370cd/m2 and the dynamic contrast ratio is 3000:1. The stand has tilt, swivel, and is height adjustable. Pricing for the 3008WFP on the New Zealand Dell site is NZ$2,699 delivered, equating to about $2,040 USD. 

Dell plans to announce its 3008WFP display at the Consumer Electronics Show on January 7, 2008 in Las Vegas.

Before making use of the DisplayPort on the Dell 3008WFP a DisplayPort equipped video card is required. DailyTech reported recently that AMD would have DisplayPort equipped video cards on the market in early 2008. In October, Gateway announced its first 30-inch display called the XHD3000, which lacks the DisplayPort input.

Samsung announced its 30-inch display equipped with a DisplayPort input in July of 2007.

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Pff
By BansheeX on 12/19/2007 6:09:07 PM , Rating: 1
F* displayport. Honestly, just add an extra $1 to every video product and use HDMI. God grant us the simplicity of one digital format on tvs and monitors.




RE: Pff
By Scrith on 12/19/2007 8:05:17 PM , Rating: 2
The Dell 30" monitor I've been using for a few months now is TOO bright...I have the brightness turned down below half. But on the showroom under fluorescent lights I'm sure you need all the brightness you can get.


RE: Pff
By Haltech on 12/19/2007 10:28:39 PM , Rating: 2
if you actually read the specs on display port, you'd realize why do we have DVI/HDMI


RE: Pff
By subhajit on 12/20/2007 1:44:00 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly, Display port is much more than a redesigned HDMI. HDMI has similar limitations as Dual-DVI. Display port is the true next gen adapter as far as Computer monitors are concerned. Think it as the new DVI and HDMI is the replacement for component/S-Video. I found this article on bit-tech really helpful:
http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/10/22/displaypor...


RE: Pff
By Visual on 12/20/2007 4:34:10 AM , Rating: 2
That's BS, the latest 1.3b spec of HDMI has the same bandwidth and more features than Displayport... there is absolutely no need for yet another standard, and i will never buy a card that has such outputs.

The very idea that consumer electronics should have a different port than personal computers is nonsense.


RE: Pff
By P4blo on 12/20/2007 7:43:06 AM , Rating: 2
Putting my cynical hat on for a moment, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the manufacturers want separate interfaces for PC or TV use and this was an important factor in Displayport's development. It would enable them to generate more panel sales if the only display interface on your PC is displayport that (would?) prevent you from connecting it straight to a nice 1080p LCD TV... and getting the best of both worlds... at a great price (assuming they dont add Displayport to any TVs). And using a nice bit of PIP to show the TV signal in the corner of your desktop! That would be very handy.

I think they want to segregate the market as much as possible. This also points to why none of the Dell displays are much use for inputting other signals such as TV. I mean look at the 1st generation Dell 30" (I have this display). 1 x DVI ?? That's overly restrictive. They obviously knew an LCD this big would be a cracking telly even at 20 feet away.

Subsequently I have to use a separate Samsung Pebble 19" to get the best of both worlds on my desktop as I have sky HD running into it.

So.... all the displayport luvers out there, you might have been sold up the river on this one. If they plan to kill off DVI interfaces on all future GFX cards after a crossover period.

Anyone seen that new Gateway 30"? This one seems to break the mould. Apparently it has a p1mp scaler in it. Could be a much better bet for some. I'm looking very seriously at it for my next upgrade.

http://www.gateway.com/accessories/product/1541272...


RE: Pff
By Hawkido on 12/20/2007 10:20:14 AM , Rating: 1
Yeah really! It's just $1 (per Port!)
Then it's just an Extra $10 per cable!
Then Oh yeah my Cable box that's another $1 for the output port.
oh and HD DVD and BR player Cha-Ching $1
and cables for them CHA-Cha-Ching $$$

Opps ran out of HDMI ports on my TV... Hafta but an HDMI switchbox. Lets see one output HDMI port and 4 input ports plus a few more cables... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Holy crap what are you talking ABOUT!!!!!

okay or how about Display port.

boohoo hafta support a new format.

Ahhh, but no royalty fees, at least not like the HDMI crappo.


RE: Pff
By retrospooty on 12/20/2007 2:48:09 PM , Rating: 1
"F* displayport. Honestly, just add an extra $1 to every video product and use HDMI. God grant us the simplicity of one digital format on tvs and monitors."

You are so full of it. Now put that very same logic you just posted to your beloved Sony, and everything they have done for the past 5 years and STFU.


dang... look at that rear panel
By retrospooty on 12/19/2007 2:26:41 PM , Rating: 2
VGA, composite, Super video, component, HDMI, Display port, and 2x DVI. Cant go wrong with all that. Sweet.




RE: dang... look at that rear panel
By FITCamaro on 12/19/07, Rating: 0
RE: dang... look at that rear panel
By Vinnybcfc on 12/19/2007 3:33:52 PM , Rating: 5
Bit of a chicken and egg scenario.

You could guarantee that if Nvidia or ATI had brought out a Display Port card before this someone would have said: "Just too bad there isn't a monitor out there with a display port input yet"


By FITCamaro on 12/19/2007 4:12:01 PM , Rating: 2
Touche.


No LED :(
By daftrok on 12/19/2007 3:00:02 PM , Rating: 3
I was hoping their next version of monitors would be LED backlit. And this monitor costs like 2000 bucks rather than 1500-1600, I was hoping that LED was the reason.




RE: No LED :(
By Fnoob on 12/19/2007 5:48:03 PM , Rating: 2
True. Anything to make them brighter. I loved my 2405 until I bought this Sony Bravia 40" 1080p. It makes the dell look very dark by comparison, even with the Sony set to it's dimmest mode. The 3007 definitely isn't worth the extra money over the Sony (which is only ~1500 at SamsClub). True, the ~2500x1600 resolution is sweet - but enjoy your spaceheater/vaccum cleaner box.


RE: No LED :(
By caboosemoose on 12/21/2007 8:43:44 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry chum, you are totally missing the point of displays like the this new 30-incher. I have two 3007s on my desk and they are only set to half brightness most of the time. You simply can't sit at close range to a 30-inch monitor and stare into searing brightness all day.

You are comparing this PC monitor with a Sony TV. Granted, the Sony might make a much better LCD for watching at normal TV viewing distances. But it would make a terrible close-range PC monitor with huge, ugly pixels, a fraction of the resolution etc etc etc


RE: No LED :(
By Bekali on 12/20/2007 7:28:45 AM , Rating: 2
No led but have 117% gamut compared with 123% for the led one Samsung XL30. Normal monitors have 72%, and some like HP LP3065 and Dell 3007WFP-HC have 92%.So is very good.


Dell New Zealand?
By MADAOO7 on 12/19/2007 3:07:26 PM , Rating: 2
Is it me, or was anyone surprised that there is a Dell New Zealand? Not that there is anything wrong with New Zealand, but only 4 Million people live there, which is like the size of Tampa Bay (where I live) you'd think it'd be cheaper for Dell Australia just to take care of that market.




RE: Dell New Zealand?
By ksherman on 12/19/2007 3:27:47 PM , Rating: 2
They had to give SOMEONE a job.. :)


RE: Dell New Zealand?
By Kakumba on 12/19/2007 6:59:57 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, it IS odd. Normally we get things well after the rest of the world. Oh well.

And, price: it will be cheaper in the states, things like this get marked up big time over here.


RE: Dell New Zealand?
By croc on 12/19/2007 11:47:38 PM , Rating: 2
It's precisely because of that rather small population (and the education levels) that New Zealand makes a great test market. Go there sometime... Best high (priced) tech outside of Japan.

I'll be there tomorrow. Maybe I'll drink the Claddagh dry.


Subwoofer output
By Operandi on 12/19/2007 2:34:07 PM , Rating: 2
Can't say that I ever expected to see that on a PC display.

Nice monitor though, perhaps when I'm ready to upgrade from my 2407.




RE: Subwoofer output
By squeezee on 12/19/2007 5:00:37 PM , Rating: 2
Pretty sure thats supposed to be a Digital audio output.


RE: Subwoofer output
By squeezee on 12/19/2007 5:06:54 PM , Rating: 2
.


Audio?
By mxzrider2 on 12/20/2007 4:26:42 AM , Rating: 2
Anyone notice the 2 audio outputs ( and sub out) but no inputs? and even if one is a in put why have outputs with a sub out?. maybe its also a usb sound card?




RE: Audio?
By Visual on 12/20/2007 4:38:51 AM , Rating: 2
more likely it just reroutes the audio that's coming over hdmi or displayport


$2K WOW!
By pjs on 12/19/2007 4:27:11 PM , Rating: 3
The extra inputs are really nice, and I'd expect an improvement in panel performance as well, but for TWO-THOUSAND-DOLLARS (O.K. the U.S. dollar is becoming like a third world currancy), I'd expect something really extra for my money, such as a video card thrown in or a happy ending.

Paul




Want!
By Webreviews on 12/19/2007 5:49:22 PM , Rating: 2
$2K seems a bit spendy, but I can't stop doing the Homer Simpson drool thing.




Some good some bad
By FXi on 12/19/2007 11:50:51 PM , Rating: 1
Good points
Good inputs (finally)
Good for being ahead of the curve (displayport)
Good contrast ratio
8ms isn't "bad"

Bad pts
Brightness isn't good enough, especially for the price (see brightness on the various 24" models out there for comparison)
The price is quite high even for an introduction
Should be two displayport inputs, much like there are 2 dvi-d
8ms isn't good either, but it'll do




$20 says
By Deusfaux on 12/19/07, Rating: -1
RE: $20 says
By rninneman on 12/19/2007 2:51:59 PM , Rating: 5
I'll take your bet because my lowly 2405WFP does have the features you just mentioned.


RE: $20 says
By Tiamat on 12/19/2007 3:01:13 PM , Rating: 2
Perhaps that is true, but the scaler is of low quality when compared to typical scalers in LCDTVs in that price range. I noticed this in an A/B test between Westinghouse 37w3se vs 2405 for PS2 gaming with component. The 2405 just looked crappy in all respects compared to the lcdtv.


RE: $20 says
By afkrotch on 12/19/2007 3:23:17 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe you are missing out in the fact that this is a LCD monitor, not an LCD TV. I could care less what the stupid scaler is.


RE: $20 says
By soydios on 12/19/2007 7:33:05 PM , Rating: 1
and if I'm a student at college (who somehow manages to have $2k burning a hole in my pocket), and I don't have room in my dorm for both a 30" computer monitor and a TV, I would care about how well the scaler works.


RE: $20 says
By CSMR on 12/19/2007 8:04:51 PM , Rating: 2
Computers are perfectly capable of acting as TVs and scaling up images.


RE: $20 says
By MGSsancho on 12/19/2007 10:17:28 PM , Rating: 2
chances are the video card required to run that monitor can upscale better then a silicon optics reon upscaler. maybe even a realtia. besides were not talking about $1600+USD external upscaler to compare to, nor are we talking about what upscaler looks best on a $6000 plasma.


RE: $20 says
By Samus on 12/20/2007 4:46:09 AM , Rating: 1
Dude, afkrotch said it, it's a MONITOR. Exactly when do you plan on changing the resolutions. Nobody is buying this thing to play their Wii on at 480p.

Hence them 'touting display port'

It's designed for one, VERY high resolution, 100% of the time. All the inputs like s-video and component should be pretty much ignored, especially if you're expecting some sort of quality picture production from them.


RE: $20 says
By Deusfaux on 12/19/2007 4:50:38 PM , Rating: 2
Somehow I doubt that, because the follw up Dell 2407, 2407-HC, 2707, and nearly every other monitor I've worked with (BenQ FP241W/WZ, etc) doesnt have it.

You're suggesting they just stripped it out in future models? Please link to a photo of the OSD menu showing 4:3 and 16:9 scaling options.


RE: $20 says
By Deusfaux on 12/19/2007 4:57:19 PM , Rating: 2
RE: $20 says
By Deusfaux on 12/19/2007 6:11:45 PM , Rating: 2
thats the OSD of a 2405 for anyone wondering, not surprisingly missing the 4:3 and 16:9 scaling options I will bet will be lacking in the 3008 as has been the case with every previous Dell monitor


RE: $20 says
By Solandri on 12/19/2007 6:55:12 PM , Rating: 2
What exactly are you looking for? Those options look like all the stretching any monitor should need.

1:1 means 1 pixel to 1 pixel, so a 1280x800 image would take up 1280x800 pixels in the center, with black bars above and below and on both sides.

Fill means the image is stretched in both horizontal and vertical so there are no black bars.

Aspect means the image is stretched to fill the screen, but aspect ratio is preserved. So a 4:3 image would touch the top and bottom, but have black bars on the side. A 16:9 image would touch the sides, but have black bars on the top and bottom.

What other form of stretching is there?


RE: $20 says
By Deusfaux on 12/19/2007 7:55:11 PM , Rating: 2
Aspect means the aspect ratio of the SIGNAL is preserved, not the aspect ratio of the image carried on that signal.

NTSC (anything over composite and s-video) and 480i/p is a 3:2 SIGNAL.

The IMAGE carried on that signal is >99% of the time, has the aspect of 4:3 or 16:9, as those are the 2 television aspects.

1:1 OR Aspect mode would be thus showing a 4:3 or 16:9 image in a 3:2 sized area.

Full would be showing that same 4:3 or 16:9 image in a 16:10 area.

None of those 3 modes thus work, and THAT's why 4:3 and 16:9 scaling modes are necessary and why Samsungs have them there.


RE: $20 says
By Deusfaux on 12/19/2007 7:59:00 PM , Rating: 2
(as far as all these monitors are concerned) NTSC = 480i = 480p = 720 x 480 = 3:2 aspect ratio

If you're ever ran composite or s-video into a monitor, or viewed 480i/p content (any older console, or the Nintendo Wii), you'd notice everything is squished because of the lack of 4:3 and 16:9 scaling options.


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