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Debate over working on the holiday continues rage; meanwhile there's signs that employee bonus pay may be slipping away

Retailer Costco Wholesale Corp. (COST) has bucked a key industry trend and is provoking a heated debate and likely more than a little animosity from other retailers.
 
I. Black Friday Creeps Into Black Thursday
 
It all started with a simple decision -- Costco decided its employees deserved Thursday off to enjoy Thanksgiving Day, a national holiday in the U.S.  But that decision has riled fellow retailers, most of which have promised to open on Thanksgiving evening, hoping to cash in on the "Black Friday" holiday shopping craze.

Costco shopper
As it did last year, Costco has again refused to open on "Black Thursday", aka "Thanksgiving" to most Americans. [Image Source: Costco/Facebook]

Sears Holding Corp. (SHLD) hasn't announced its hours yet, but it went to the opposite extreme with its K-Mart stores, announcing they would open at 8 a.m. on the holiday.  Macy's Inc. (M), Best Buy Comp., Inc. (BBY), and Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) have also opted to open on Thursday, albeit slightly later (at 6 p.m.).  Most other retailers have yet to announce their hours.
 
The origin of the term "Black Friday" is somewhat vague, given that it's a reoccurring label that's been used to describe a number of dire or chaotic events of different natures in different nations.  In the U.S. it was originally associated with the financial crisis of 1869.
 
In the 1950s and 1960s various groups began to refer to the Friday and Saturday after Thanksgiving as "Black Friday" and "Black Saturday".  The terminology stemmed from the fact that these were the busiest holiday shopping days of the season, typically.  Police viewed the day with frustration, as traffic jams were a regular occurrence in major cities by the 1960s.  And manufacturers also griped, as employees would call in sick to go shopping.
 
The term stuck, but ultimately took on a more positive meaning as many Americans enjoyed the bargain hunting and retailers salivated at the windfall in revenue from this day of unbridled consumerism.
 
In the 1980s and 1990s retailers began to play a game of timesheet brinksmanship, pushing their openings earlier and earlier.  Shoppers appreciated this, as it meant less sleep-deprived waits in line.  Instead they could duck in (in theory, if not in practice) late on Thanksgiving Day and squeeze in a bit of shopping.
 
But for employees, this became a new headache.
 
II. Costco Stands Its Ground on Thanksgiving Closure
 
Most large retailers drew a hard line at midnight openings at the end of Thanksgiving Thursday.  But in 2011 Wal-Mart, the America's largest retailer by revenue, defiantly opened on Thursday night, and made a killing so other retailers began to quickly follow in suit.  Thus "Black Thursday" was born.

Black Thursday
Shoppers wait in line for "Black Thursday" at Best Buy on Thanksgiving Night, 2013. [Image Source: AP]

Retailers blamed online retailers like Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN) for the creep.  They claimed Black Thursday was a necessary evil in order to stay competitive with online retailers who were outcompeting them revenue-wise, thanks in part to 24-7 shopping.
 
Most retailers give holiday pay for working on Black Friday.  Those who bought in to Black Thursday typically gave holiday pay, as well.  Some retailers also offer other perks.  For example, since starting Black Thursday openings, Macy's gives employees who work on Thursday the next day off.
 
But not all employees were happy about this.  Starting around 2012 many employees at retailers that participated in Black Thursday began calling in sick in protest.  Some employees even banded together to stage formal protests at retailers.  And online, a Target Comp. (TGT) employee started a Change.org petition asking retailers to knock it off and let employees enjoy the time with their family.

Black Thursday
[Image Source: Change.org]

Costco seemed to heed the call.  The nation's second largest retailer by revenue, the chain of 487 members-only warehouse-style stores did not open its doors till Friday last year.  This year it stuck to its guns.  A spokesperson for the store told ThinkProgress:

Our employees work especially hard during the holiday season and we simply believe that they deserve the opportunity to spend Thanksgiving with their families.  Nothing more complicated than that.

Costco also closes on Labor Day, Easter, and Christmas Day.
 
III. Retail Workers Could See Thanksgiving Bonus Pay Disappear
 
Not all Costco employees are happy about the missed opportunity at overtime.  But if accusations leveled against Wal-Mart are any indication Black Thursday holiday pay may be slowly shrinking as fast as the Black Thursday trend is growing.
 
Wal-Mart, according to reports, decided to eschew the traditional cut-and-dry 1.5x pay rate formula, for a more slippery one.  Its employees -- who last year made on average $8.81 USD/hour at regular rates -- instead get "holiday wage" equivalent to the average daily pay for an employee in the two weeks before Black Thursday.  The practice was first noticed in 2013 posts by ThinkProgress and CNNMoney. Each report cited different current Wal-Mart employees as its sources.
 
Walmart full-time employees work an average [PDF] of 35 hours a week, according to internal memos.  So on paper this works out to a bonus of 5 hours day -- perhaps an even bigger bonus than at other retailers.
  

Walmart workers
Wal-mart workers have staged a recent number of protests on Black Thursday/Friday in recent years, amid general anger over low wages and benefits, but also amid accusations that Wal-Mart was cutting holiday bonus pay in underhanded ways. [Image Source: ABC/AP]

But much like America's sliding scale of taxation, the more complicated formulation has reportedly led to a very sneaky form of wage abus.  Employees claim that for those scheduled on Black Thursday Wal-Mart purposefully cuts hours in the two weeks before the holiday.

It turns out most Wal-Mart employees are part-timers.  For these employees who average 32.2 hours a week annually, typical cuts (according to a recent interview with a manager by Gawker) are to around 25 hours a week.  So based on this information you might calculate that an employee might make as little as 3 hours of overtime pay -- less than 50% of the hours they worked.

Wal-Mart subsequently denied those claims, stating that the pay was actually calculated for the last 12 weeks (not 2) and that the initial reports were based on an executive who misspoke themselves on an earnings call.  Wal-Mart also claimed that it couldn't cut employee hours as the holiday season was the business shopping season of the year.

That said, CNN Money claims that many Wal-Mart workers emailed it stories claiming to have made less than a 50 percent bonus, with 1.3x or 1.4x pay rates.  The different accounts from Wal-Mart employees could be explained by the increased trend of hiring seasonal employees, which would allow Wal-Mart to keep its part-timers hours low.

In yet more controversy Redditors revealed that while Wal-Mart gives employees perks --a  Thanksgiving turkey dinner during their shift break and a 25 percent discount on one item -- these perks count against a store's earnings total which determines whether or not employees get a bigger bonus.

Black Friday sign
For some employees Black Thursday is a welcome observance as it brings overtime pay.
[Image Source: Reuters]

The moral of all this?  Yes, for some employees Black Thursday brings welcome cash.  But on the flip side other employees are being forced to work who want desperately to spend at least one holiday day with their family.

And while it's unclear what Wal-Mart's fuzzy math relating to Black Thursday/Black Friday employee perks and bonuses works out to on average, the terms seem to suggest that retailers are shifting towards -- or at least eyeing a shift towards -- normal pay on the Black Thursday Holiday.  That could in turn shift the minds of some Black Thursday supporters in retail, given that the pay boost is no longer as big.

If there's one thing that appears unambiguous it's Costco's position on all this.  Its answer is simple -- we don't work on Thanksgiving Day.

Source: Costco





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Costco is different
By Roy2001 on 10/30/2014 12:20:55 PM , Rating: 5
It does not rely on heavy discount during Thanksgiving. In fact, I never heard anyone went to Costco for BF sale. So it makes sense for them to keep store closed on Thursday.

I would like to see all the stores closed on Thursday. It is holiday and people should stay at home.




RE: Costco is different
By kamk44 on 10/30/2014 12:40:31 PM , Rating: 2
I refuse to go to a store on Thanksgiving Day or early Friday. Unfortunately I know people who do. The best deals aren't even offered then anymore.


RE: Costco is different
By Mojoed on 11/10/2014 1:14:36 PM , Rating: 2
Why unfortunately? Why do you care when or how other people shop?


RE: Costco is different
By joshuasims1981 on 11/11/2014 10:42:41 AM , Rating: 3
Because their shopping habits influence the practices of the retailers. If people quit shopping on Thanksgiving, there would be in impetus for them to be open.


RE: Costco is different
By enlil242 on 11/17/2014 5:21:43 PM , Rating: 2
Do you equally care about restaurant, or entertainment service employees? In my youth, the movie theater I worked at was always open on Thanksgiving evening, day after, Christmas Eve AND Christmas... It's been 15 years since and I do not think these establishments altered their hours, so why, now, are we feeling sorry for the retail employees?? I would say, if you have volunteers, and you offer incentives, then you do what is good for your company...


RE: Costco is different
By MikeMurphy on 11/21/2014 12:57:45 PM , Rating: 2
Just because it happened in the past, doesn't mean it's OK.


RE: Costco is different
By Regs on 11/20/2014 8:33:23 AM , Rating: 2
Employees are so cash strapped making 8-9 dollars an hour, a lot of them likely want the 1.5-2.5 holiday pay.


RE: Costco is different
By therealnickdanger on 10/31/14, Rating: -1
RE: Costco is different
By karimtemple on 10/31/2014 11:27:29 AM , Rating: 4
This has a vague air of factuality, but is a little obtuse.

The economy is down, first of all, despite what the overly optimistic and/or Obama PR team may tell you. The choice is woefully limited. And it has been for years, well before Black Thursday started, which is part of how it was able to start in the first place.

Also, this is the likes of Walmart we're talking about here; a last-resort employ not unlike the Army or prostitution. It's not a place that's particularly representative of those with choice , it's a place you go for work when you're out of options.

When that fact is coupled with this Black Thursday practice, you get an example of the general act of exploitation -- in this case both by Walmart and by you if you choose to shop there.

"Not pursuing education and blah blah blah," also not often a choice. lol you're really clueless on this one.


RE: Costco is different
By laststop311 on 11/2/2014 9:28:42 AM , Rating: 2
You said obtuse, like when Tim Robbins calls the warden in Shawshank Redemption obtuse when he won't believe that his co prison inmate (and friend that he helped earn his high school diploma) has information that his character is innocent of the murder he was charged with that put him here many years ago. The warden is afraid that he will go to the police about the money laundering he had been helping the warden with, due to his banking abilities before he went to jail for a crime he didn't do. The warden does not take kindly to what he himself interprets as a veiled threat when Tim Robbins says he would never go to the police if his sentence were to be reversed. So the warden throws Tim Robbins into solitary confinement and while he is in there he brings the inmate who had that information out to the courtyard in the middle of the night to "discuss" this supposed information he has. When the warden finds out that he is willing to testify that Tim Robbins character did not commit the murder he drops his cigarette to signal the corrections officer in the guard tower to shoot the inmate and kill him. To cover up this murder he says that the inmate was attempting to escape. When they tell Tim Robbins what happened he is devastated but it just drives him even harder to win his freedom back, by escaping through a tunnel he made with a rock hammer, and to put the warden behind bars because of that day when he was "obtuse."

Now how is that for a tangent.


RE: Costco is different
By karimtemple on 11/3/2014 8:35:12 PM , Rating: 2
7/10. Nice tangent. Would recommend.


RE: Costco is different
By Manch on 11/2/14, Rating: -1
RE: Costco is different
By MrBlastman on 11/3/2014 2:05:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Also, this is the likes of Walmart we're talking about here; a last-resort employ not unlike the Army or prostitution. It's not a place that's particularly representative of those with choice , it's a place you go for work when you're out of options.


Are you kidding me?

There are actually people who join the Army because they, you know, believe in America, what the Constitution stands for and the name of Freedom... and want to serve!

They aren't forced into it. That thing called the draft... it has been gone for a long time now.

In fact, I know of people who tried to join because they were "down on their luck and out of options" and got rejected because they either had criminal records or were too stupid on the ASVAB.

The military actually has standards. They won't take any tool with a pulse.

Perhaps you've never had a relative who has served. Perhaps you emigrated to America. Or, perhaps, you aren't even an American.

Military service is a fundamental part of our country. Without it, individual rights such as voting, freedom of speech, religion--even the right to bear arms, might not exist at all. These servicemembers sacrifice their lives so we can sit around on our butts in the comfort of our chairs, sometimes wearing nothing but underwear, so we can debate frivolous ideas on the internet that the majority of society don't even care about.

Get a clue, man.


RE: Costco is different
By karimtemple on 11/3/2014 8:55:43 PM , Rating: 2
I'm a U.S. Marine. Honorably discharged from active duty. You can stow the histrionics.

I'm trying to have an adult conversation about this with candor and intellectual honesty. Real people, ones who don't closely resemble cartoon characters and satirical comic strips, often join the military partly because growing up everyone tells you "you'd better go to college" and the military says they'll pay for college. It's often joked about by the instructors when you first get to boot camp.

I sat with the decision to serve my country, and to put my life on the line, and to lose years of choice, but getting money for college and no longer being a burden to my low-income single mother (and eventually even being able to help on top of that) were also strong factors. With all of that in mind, I joined. I didn't even have any living family members who'd served.

Millions of us are like that. It was more than just a job to us, obviously, but all of our circumstances really are factors in it. Economics are a factor in everything. So can we treat this discussion like it's real life, please?


RE: Costco is different
By MrBlastman on 11/3/14, Rating: -1
RE: Costco is different
By GotThumbs on 11/23/2014 11:06:23 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly.

Everyone should have/wants freedom of choice.

I once worked retail and was smart enough to know/understand the facts about retail work/hours. All retail staff are free to find new jobs (I did), so they either accept the situation, find a new job at another store or learn new skills that they can use in a new career. Retail work does NOT require a lot of brain power, so it's NEVER going to be a high paying job, unless you work commission and are a good salesperson. Life is full of choices, so anyone working for walmart or any other retailer needs to suck it up, move on or start their own business. Of course anyone who does own their own successful business knows the are the hardest working employee their company is them. Success is not handed out, it's earned. Some people don't' get that and that is why they are NOT successful.

It's the idiots that blame the company for their lot in life.


RE: Costco is different
By khanikun on 11/7/2014 9:34:57 AM , Rating: 2
US is a nice big melting pot of different races and different cultures. Not everyone gives a damn about Thanksgiving. I was born and raised in the US. I don't give a damn about Thanksgiving.

My ass is flying to Tokyo instead of having absolutely nothing to do on Thanksgiving, aside from eating.


RE: Costco is different
By Dorkyman on 11/10/2014 11:16:38 AM , Rating: 2
Kinda sad that the US is fragmenting apart.

As an aside (and along similar lines) I'd advise Costco to tread carefully on the "closed Christmas and Easter" thing. They are going to be sued for this. I can guarantee it.


By 8steve8 on 11/8/2014 2:09:52 PM , Rating: 2
If we make it even less convenient to shop in B&M stores, consumers will just be shopping on the internet even more... and then those retail jobs wont even exist anymore.




By RaistlinZ on 11/10/2014 2:46:18 PM , Rating: 2
That's the thing, it already is less convenient. Why fight for parking, wait in long lines, fight for discounted items, haggle with sales people who try to sell me service plans just to buy an item I can get online for the same price anyway - usually with free shipping?

I can do all of my holiday shopping on my phone, roll over in my bed and go back to sleep. B&M stores are antiquated.


By enlil242 on 11/17/2014 5:32:23 PM , Rating: 2
Sometimes it's the thrill, or feeling "festive." Instead of a Mall, however, I like walking down my main street (ahem, Mag Mile) and seeing the lights, and people walking about. For me shopping during the Christmas season is just being social...

I would say, yes, there are extremes, but Last year my wife and I went out in Lake Geneva, WI and had a good time shopping on Thursday evening... No, there were no riots. The retailers had it pretty much under control and I wound up spending money on things I probably wouldn't have...


Why did this trend ever start?
By Philippine Mango on 10/31/2014 3:33:24 AM , Rating: 2
How and why did this stupid trend of having Black Friday now begin on Thursday ever start? It doesn't make any sense, either have it on Friday or just start the Holiday Shopping Season a week prior. Why a day after Thanksgiving? Why not a week before? I mean after all, it just keeps getting pushed back anyhow!




By anothermax2 on 10/31/2014 9:55:53 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Most large retailers drew a hard line at midnight openings at the end of Thanksgiving Thursday. But in 2011 Wal-Mart, the America's largest retailer by revenue, defiantly opened on Thursday night, and made a killing so other retailers began to quickly follow in suit. Thus "Black Thursday" was born.


Wal mart, as usual, started the mess.


RE: Why did this trend ever start?
By GotThumbs on 11/23/2014 11:14:51 AM , Rating: 2
Build it and they will come.

It it wasn't such a success (in sales) walmart would not have done it again. Blame the REAL drivers of this. The shoppers.

Companies are in business to make money. If they can make more by opening on a holiday, then they typically will.

Some companies make most of their revenue in this short time period, so again, don't blame the company.

Blame the idiots who CHOOSE to go shopping on that day.

Lets be honest here and give credit where credit is due.


By southernsugar79 on 11/3/2014 2:35:42 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Text In yet more controversy Redditors revealed that while Wal-Mart gives employees perks --a  Thanksgiving turkey dinner during their shift break and a 25 percent discount on one item -- these perks count against a store's earnings total which determines whether or not employees get a bigger bonus. - See more at: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=36800...


I'm a Walmart Associate (with a college education) and yeah the pay sucks for the work that we do. We do get an extra discount for working Thanksgiving however the article is not exactly right it's not just for one item it is for one purchase. That purchase can be more than one item. I used mine last year to purchase all of my family's Christmas presents and saved all most $100. Walmart is not as bad as some make them out to be but the company is no where near perfect.




Walmart Associate Holiday Perks
By southernsugar79 on 11/3/2014 2:35:43 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Text In yet more controversy Redditors revealed that while Wal-Mart gives employees perks --a  Thanksgiving turkey dinner during their shift break and a 25 percent discount on one item -- these perks count against a store's earnings total which determines whether or not employees get a bigger bonus. - See more at: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=36800...


I'm a Walmart Associate (with a college education) and yeah the pay sucks for the work that we do. We do get an extra discount for working Thanksgiving however the article is not exactly right it's not just for one item it is for one purchase. That purchase can be more than one item. I used mine last year to purchase all of my family's Christmas presents and saved all most $100. Walmart is not as bad as some make them out to be but the company is no where near perfect.




RE: Walmart Associate Holiday Perks
By Thxcub on 11/5/2014 3:17:50 AM , Rating: 2
Also the math done for the hours given is off....if a person works an average of 35 hours a week most work weeks are 5days a week (no one works 7days a week in retail jobs generally) which would mean a person would get 7hrs of holiday pay average for full time workers and a person working 25 hours a week would get around 5 hours a week. Just dividing it by the right number of days makes a huge difference in the actual story.


Free food at Costco
By hiscross on 11/4/2014 11:40:09 AM , Rating: 2
I was hoping to collect enough of those free samples at Costco to feed by family on Turkey day and also watch free football on their demo sets. Looks like that isn't going to happen this year. Hope Mickey D's drive thru is open.




By lithium451 on 11/9/2014 6:18:31 AM , Rating: 2
NOT providing competition to them on Thanksgiving?

What am I missing?




The MBA's definition
By inperfectdarkness on 11/11/2014 7:24:04 AM , Rating: 2
There's another definition for Black Friday you didn't mention. In the business world, it is supposedly affiliated with the day that the corporation went "into the black" for that year. Gauged over the entire calendar year, operations, logistics, merchandise and salaries consume a large percentage of revenue. "Black Friday" was chronologically the day of the year when sales revenue was finally generating a net profit for the business (into the black).

This isn't to say it's the "correct" definition, but it certainly is another one.

I don't go to stores on that Thursday/Friday...let alone go to stores on a regular basis. I don't have to deal with noise, screaming, shoving, shanking, etc. I'm content to buy on Amazon or what-not.




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